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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades



So with you here. How can parents do this to their kids. I know parents love their kids and want to encourage them. But there comes a point in life when you have to do a reality check and say "baccha you are really really bad at this.Save yourself the humiliation and find something you are good at."

If I ever have kids, I am going to train them in wisecracking and comeback lines. God knows if they can even hold half a note and their voices may burst your ear drums, but they will be so sharp and witty that the likes of Anu mallik and Abhijeet will start crying. And you will applaud them because even though they suck - you want them in the show to talk back to stupid judges. I should stop. I'm spinning into an evil diabolical alternate reality.


Okay, so according to you 2 the parents are to blame? But does that still give Abhijeet the right to treat kids like that? Whether it's the parents' fault or Abhijeet's fault, at the end it is the kids who have to suffer the humiliation. There are nicer ways to explain to kids that their singing isn't up to the mark. But it is horrible to treat them this way. What would it do to their self-esteem?
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Posted: 16 years ago
#22
i agree about sonu nigam........he was such a awesome judge last year.........and also with the two seasons of indian idol......what a personality.........so versatile.....love sonu nigam.........he is absolutely amazing......and about abhijeet i have no idea why he was the judge for ek se badkar ek or for this show.......for the life of me i think he is the worst judge........👎🏼
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: shehzaadi91


Okay, so according to you 2 the parents are to blame?
At least 75% of the blame is on the parents.

But does that still give Abhijeet the right to treat kids like that?
The fact that their parents brought them onto a publicly telecast reality show that is based on humiliation as a form of entertainment.

Whether it's the parents' fault or Abhijeet's fault, at the end it is the kids who have to suffer the humiliation.
Yes and thats why good parents always make their children aware of reality and do not put them in situations where they will be humiliated, and give them the strength to face humiliation when it is not upto the mark.

There are nicer ways to explain to kids that their singing isn't up to the mark.
There honestly is no nice way to tell someone that they suck. You either tell out and out how bad they are in plain language or you resort to humor and sarcasm. Any other means would be coddling and shielding. That they are not good enough is something the parents should have made them aware off.

But it is horrible to treat them this way. What would it do to their self-esteem?
As I said, parents are responsible to prevent situations that affect self esteem and teach them how to endure humiliation if it cannot be prevented.



Even if Abhijeet did not make fun of them, I am sure anyone who saw that would make fun of them. In fact peers can be even more cruel than the worst TV show hosts. I do not condone Abhijeets antics. But I am disgusted in parents who use their kids as publicity ladders and are unable to give their children realistic and healthy self images.

And I am safely assuming that the intent to have witty kids who make judges cry flew over the cuckoos nest.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hey Ajnu, G-Unit and Cloddy, I need some guidance in the un-DM world. 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: return_to_hades


Hey Ajnu, G-Unit and Cloddy, I need some guidance in the un-DM world. 😆



Oh boy - I was wondering if I was in DM accidentally. 😆
Oh you do not need guidance. Same rule applies here - stand up for what you believe in and take the opposition down. 😆

One small warning though - people here are not used to long debates, and if you do get involved in such debates, you will get the adjective "argumentative" attached to your ID - I speak from experience. 😆 But I have no shame, so I do not care what adjectives come with my ID - if you're like me then you shouldn't either. 😆

Other than that -- good luck. 😉

P.S. Have you considered writing "I'M FROM DM" in your siggy? 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: return_to_hades


Fair enough. To me respect is earned, not gifted. I do not think any person automatically deserves respect because they happen to be good at something, or because they are older in age. I know its part of Indian culture to be respectful to elders, and yes its a beautiful and very nice tradition. I just don't subscribe to it, because I do not believe that any human should have to take lip from someone and not do anything about it. Its not exacly being rude, its more of standing up for yourself.

If someone gave constructive criticism and someone talks back that is rude.
If someone unnecesscarily insults you and you show them back, thats self defense.


Hey Ajnu, G-Unit and Cloddy, I need some guidance in the un-DM world. 😆

Wah kya dialogue ...!! 👏 aap guidance/rule follow karoge ? 😆 welcome to un-DM world 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
#27
The problem with this show is that they're trying to get the youngest lot possible. 5 yrs old? really? I mean, at that age, 70% of them are being forced to do it by their parents. You aren't really willing until maybe at least 12. But you know, that's my opinion. Maybe they are doing it willingly...it just doesn't seem likely at such a young age.

I don't think it's the parents fault. Here's the thing though, not all of them have musical knowledge. Abhijeet was just making fun of everybody. Yes, it's true they're taking the best and the people who are cut range from good to mediocre to just plain bad, but he made fun of everyone.

From some of the ones that were cut, some of them had bad song choice. It was obvious that if they had chosen a different song, they probably would have made it. The first boy that was cut was actually pretty decent, but then Abhijeet is like "What is the violentness in your voice" or some crap like that. It was only slightly, and that could be learned in like two minutes. He could have said, kid, don't say the line like that. try it again. or he could have said, i'm cutting you for that part, and i can't give you a second chance because i have a billion other people to audition. but going around like an idiot screaming, "Bachao Bachao" is just stupid. And one boy even said, "Don't make fun of me, just tell me if I'm bad." And Abhijeet just goes on making fun of him forcing him to sing three songs! Like if they're bad just say it instead of making them sing more than anyone else, leading them on, and making fun of them the whole time.

A lot of parents do think their children are good, you know blinded by love or whatever. They come in there smiling only to have their children made fun of IN FRONT of them. Who the heck has the nerve to do something like that?

I mean Alkaji just said, I'm sorry, I can't give you the medal. She didn't go on making fun of besuras or whatever. I think that if you're given the prestigious position of being a judge, you have a certain responsibility that goes along with it, and the parents are not wrong to expect that.

Also, a lot of them come from poor families so they have no idea how auditions work or tv or anything, but singing could be a big break for them and their children. Actually, most of the kids come from poor families with low expectations.

I do think that there is some respect that you should give your elders, but you MAINTAIN that respect if they are deserving. But I do agree if your elders are making fun of you, you have every right to say something witty back. But if they just cut you, then no, you should respect them.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#28
i'm not getting involved in any long debate...but all i want to say is that sorry parents are not too blame for what abhijeet did. many of those parents there probably thought there kids actually had a decent chance.
and there is no rhyme or reason for abhijeet's stupid behaviour.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#30

Seriously folks, what part of "reality T.V." and "scripted" don't you get😆. Abhijeet is doing what HR does with the other show - be the muh-phat bad guy to raise the TRPs.

Jo sab log pani pee pee (sorry, this is the only way I can write "drink" in hindi😆) ker abhijeet ki burai ker rahye hain - better get used to the running down because nothing is gonna change in the format. Wait couple more weeks, on top of running the kids down, we'll have judges running each other down too 😆.
Fact - it's the parents who set the ball rolling. Whatever happens afterwards, whether for the good or the bad, major credit lies with the parents. I am not saying that I approve of Abhijeet's behavior. All I'm saying is that:
1. It was scripted - most probably and
2. It was expected based on prior years.
There is a fast forward button on your remote. Record the damn show and use that button if you can't digest what you are seeing.
Edited by Gauri_3 - 16 years ago

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