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Raga and Taal

Friends my information is very limited, there are other ragas which are not listed below, you can certainly add to the topic.

The combination of several notes woven into a composition in a way, which is pleasing to the ear, is called a Raga or Raag. The raga is an Indian scale which utilizes varying ascending and descending patterns ' certain notes on the way up and certain notes on the way down ' but always in the set sequence. The raga never has less than five notes - the minimum required for a tune. Each raga creates an atmosphere, which is associated with feelings and sentiments. Any stray combination of notes cannot be called a Raga. At a more academic level, it is a musical composition that functions within a structure and follows certain rules with relation to the kind of notes used in it.

According to Indo Pak ancient theory, the musician's task in exploring mood is made easier if the performance takes place at the time and in the atmosphere appropriate to the raga. So if a raga that embodies the atmosphere of spring is played in spring it will be more effective than if it were played in winter.

Time based ragas are divided into four types:

1. Twilight raga when the notes re and da are used such as Raga Marwa and Poorvi.
2. Mid-day and Mid-night ragas that include the notes ga and ni (komal).
3. Ragas for the first quarter of the morning and night that include the notes re, ga, da and ni
4. For the last quarter of the day and night, the raga includes the notes Sa, ma and Pa.

The entire ragas are divided into two groups:

1. Poorvi Ragas
2. Uttar Ragas


The Poorvi Raga is sung between 12 noon and 12 midnight. The Uttar Raga is sung between 12 midnights and 12 noons. The variations on the dominant or "King" note helps a person to find out why certain raga are being sung at certain times.

Classification of Ragas under five principals:

* Hindol(There are also five ragnis for each class)
* Deepak,
* Megh,
* Shri,
* Maulkauns,

Pakaad or bandish are the most dominating notes of a given raga. Each raga has its own bandish. Whenever a music director composes a song based upon a given raga, he makes sure that he uses the bandish of that raga. This is the precise reason why two songs composed on the same raga sound similar. In a way, bandish is a common factor within all the tunes composed on a given raga.

If you listen to a vocal song based on a raga, say on radio or a in a computer, and you want to identify the raga of this song, then you should listen to it while you are farther away, say about 30 to 50 feet away from the player. It has been observed that you can recognize the raga of a song while listening to it from a farther distance rather than by listening to it closer. This is because as you go farther from the source of vocal sound, you do not listen to any words from the song, but you only hear the dominating notes or bandish of the song.

Raga Kafi

Raga Kafi is a midnight raga. Raga Kafi is derived from thaat Kafi (Parental scale). Its vaadi sur is P and samvaadi sur is S. Its pakad is S-R-R-g-m-P. Its Jati (class) is Sampoorn-Sampoorn. Its similar raga is gara.

Songs of Raga Kafi:

Tumhaaraa pyaar chaahiye mujhe, Bappi Lahri - Film Toote Khilone
Pyar bhare do sharmeele nain, Mehdi Hassan - Film Chaahat
Rim jhim rim jhim pere phawar, Noor Jehan, Film Koyal
Jalte hain arman mera dil roota hai, Noor Jehan - Film Koyal
Dil mein ho tum, aankhon mein tum, Bappi Lahri

Raga Bheemplasi

Raga Bheemplasi is a afternoon raga. Raga Bheemplasi is derived from thaat Kafi (Parental scale). Its Vaadi sur is m and Samvaadi sur is S. Its behave is Shadj-Madhym. Pakad is 'n-S-g-m-P-g, m-g-R-'n-S. Its Jati (class) is Audav-Sampoorn.

Songs of Raga Bheemplasi:

Zindagi mein to sabhi pyaar kiya karte hain, Taal Dadra, Mehdi Hassan
Ae Ajnabi Tu Bhi Kabhi - Film Dil Se
Khilte Hain Gul Yaha - Film Sharmilee
Dil mein tujhe bithake puja - Film Fakira

Raga Piloo

Raga Piloo is afternoon raga. Raga Piloo is derived from thaat Kafi (Parental scale). Its vaadi sur is g and samvaadi sur is N. Its behaav is Shadj-Madham. Pakad is g-m-d-P-g-S-'N-S. Its Jati (class) is Audav-Audav. Its first sur will start in mandr ' madh saptak and will reach madh in middle octave.

Kabhi aar kabhi paar laaga teer-e-nazar - Film Aar Paar
Ai meri Zohara zabeen, tujhe maaloom nahi, Film - Waqt
Chura liya hai tumne jo dil ko, Film - Yaadon Ki Baraat

Raga Shivranjni

Raga Shivranjani can be played any time. Raga Shivranjani is derived from thaat Kafi (Parental scale). Its Jati (class) is Audav-Audav. Its first sur will start in Madh saptk in middle octave.This raga is extremely popular among instrumentalists. This raga is known to evoke the moods of romance and sorrow. Arohi and Amrohi notes of the raga Shivranjani are very close to raga Bhoopali except that in raga Bhoopali, the GA note is shudh whereas in raga Shivranjani, the GA note is komal which is represented as lower case ga. Also vaadi and Samvaadi notes are different in raga Shivranjani compared to raga Bhoopali. These differences set apart raga Shivranjani from raga Bhoopali. Obviously, both ragas sound totally different. Sometimes liberty is taken with raga Shivranjani and shudh Gandhar (Ga) may be used by some musicians.

Songs of Raga Shivranjani:

Mere naina savan bhado, Film - Mehbooba
Bahaaro phool barsaao, Film - Suraj
Kahin deep jale kahin dil, Film - Bees Saal Baad

Raga Darbari

Raga Darbari is derived from Thaat Asavari (Parental scale). Its Vaadi (main note) is R and Samvaadi (second in importance) is P. Its Jati (class) is Sampoorn-Sampoorn; We do not count repeated notes while defining jati. Its time of performance is early night. Its Pakad is S-R-g, R-S-'d, 'n-R-S. Its bhaav is Shadj-Madham. Andolan is required on komal Ga and komal Dha, particularly in arohi.

Songs of Raga Darbari

Bahon Ke Darmiyan - Film Khamoshi
Pag ghoongroo bandh - Film Namak Halal
Raha gardishonmen haradam - Film Do Badan

Raga Jaunpuri

Raga Jaunpuri is derived from Thaat Asavari (Parental scale). It can be played in daytime. Its Vaadi (main note) is S and Samvaadi (second in importance) is P. Its Jati (class) is Shadav-Sampoorn; Its time of performance is morning till noon. Its Pakad is dm, PdnS'-d-P, and d-m-P, R-m-P. Its bhaav is Shadj-Pancham. Is is played in madh - tar saptk. Important annuvaadi is n.

Songs of Raga Jaunpuri

Muhabbat ki jhoothi kahani pe roye, Film Mughal-E-Azam
Meri yadmen tum na ansu bahana, Film Madhosh

Tal is a framework in time. Tal is structured into two or more sections, each having the same or different numbers of beats. The particular arrangement of audible sounds and silence is what defines the unique character of each Tal. Since drums are used to maintain the flow of Tal in music and dance, the character of Tal becomes vividly when manifested on a drum. The technical term for this manifestation of Tal on a drum is theka [DU].

Here is the theka-s of those Indian Tal-s that I think they can be used in Persian music.

Dadra: Dadra is in 6 beats divided into 3+3.

Dha Dhi Na, Na Tu Na.

Rupak: Rupak is in 7 beats divided into 3+2+2.

Tin Tin Na, Dhi Na, Dhi Na.

Kaharba: Kaharba is in 8 beats divided into 4+4.

Dha Ge Na Ti, Na Ke Tu Na.

Ektal: Ektal is in 12 beats divided into 3+3+3+3.

Dhin - Dhin - Dha Ge, TeRe KeTe Tun - Na -, Kat - Ta - Dha Ge, TeRe KeTe Dhin - Na -.

Dipchandi: Dipchandi is in 14 beats divided into 3+4+3+4.

Dha Dhin -, Dha Dha Dhin -, Na Tun -, Dha Dha Dhin -.

All Tal-s that are in 16 beats are very suitable for Persian music especially the most popular Indian Tal, Tintal.

Tintal: Tintal is in 16 beats divided into 4+4+4+4.

Dha Dhin Dhin Dha, Dha Dhin Dhin Dha, Dha Tin Tin Na, Ta Dhin Dhin Dha.



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Posted: 16 years ago
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Jo Jo Ji bas afsos is cheez ka hai key logon ko maza gossips mein aata hai - magar aap apna kaam jari rakhein.
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Interesting will have to go thru it with a fine comb.
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Originally posted by: Khatarnak

Jo Jo Ji bas afsos is cheez ka hai key logon ko maza gossips mein aata hai - magar aap apna kaam jari rakhein.

kuch ukhray ukhray lagtay hoo
kuch naraz naraz dikhtay hoo
king baat hameesha sidhi samjhta hai
kyon nahi tum baat saaf kartay hoo
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Originally posted by: King Anu Lives

kuch ukhray ukhray lagtay hoo
kuch naraz naraz dikhtay hoo
king baat hameesha sidhi samjhta hai
kyon nahi tum baat saaf kartay hoo



Main Samjha nahin - Sirf itna keh raha hoon key logoon ko gossips (Asma, Debo), controversies (Lata vs sonu), side shows, aur dramas (oounth ko danda/ arz kiya) mein ziyada maza aata hai
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Hi jo_jo124, thank you for posting this. I'm new to classcial music so please bear with me. Since you know so much about it can you tell me how can I learn to tell the difference between each raag. I read your article about how each raag has it's own set of notes and all and tried listening to some raags but I couldn't understand them. I guess I'm sounding dumb .I'm quite a beginner so can you /or any other music expert here please help me out how can I learn to understand the raags ????
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Hindol Raga (example)
Classification of Ragas under five principals:

* Hindol(There are also five ragnis for each class)
* Deepak,
* Megh,
* Shri,
* Maulkauns,
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOV6RnTJKv8[/YOUTUBE]
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Lovely song by Shahida Praveen

"Deepak Raag hay chaahat apni"
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u__0X8K7MDs[/YOUTUBE]
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Shahida Praveen is truly wonderful. "Kya gham e jaa.n"
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T11BYDcnRF8&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
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Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali(1902-1968)

and his son Munawar Ali Khan
Megh Raag
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS1f-OlJeKE[/YOUTUBE]
Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khansaheb inherited the musical parampara (tradition)of Punjab that encompassed the Hindu, Muslim and Sikh religions.Saint Hazrat Bulleh Shah, whose Sufiana Kalam (Sufi song)is sung even today, was buried in Kasur, Ghulam Ali's birth place. The shepherds, wandering in the hills,sang in praise of Hazrath Ali andHussain -- grandsons of Prophet Muhammad -- in melodies akin to classical Indian ragas. The shabads and qawwalis of the Sikhs were often based on ancient Dhrupads and Khayals, again Indian classical ragas. In the biography of Bade Ghulam Ali Khan, authors Malti Gulani and Quratulain Haider have paid a rich tribute to the maestro.Ghulam Ali's uncle and guru, Ustad Kale Khan,was himself trained in the Patiala school of music (Patiala gharana); he taught the young Ustad simple compositions. In 1911, Ghulam Ali accompanied Kale Khan to Delhi, at the age of 9, and watched him perform at the 'Dilli Darbar'. Thus began the grooming and development of the musicalpersonality of the young disciple, alongside rigorous taleem (training) under his uncle's baton. Later after a brief acquaintance with ucknow and its highly refined soirees, Ghulam Ali returned to Lahorewith his father and resumed his nightly riyaaz (practice)on the banks of the river Ravi. Singing all night not only developed his stamina, but also gave him the rare sensitivity to gauge the external response. In 1932, he lost his wife Allah Jiwai. His grief, poured into melody, gave birth to the immortal thumri: Yaad piya ki aye,reflecting the very trauma of his heart. On arrival in Mumbai in 1940, Ghulam Ali thrived under the benign patronage of the noted singer Ganga Bai. A Sufi at heart, he was once greatly moved by the poem Hari Om Tat Sat, and rendered it musically in the haunting raga Pahari. Years later, he explained, "God, Truth and Haq is one. I've Allah in my mind when I sing these words...Different people in the world have different names for the Supreme Being who is 'One'. In 1947, he visited Afghanistan at the invitation of King Zahir Shah and re-established the splendid rapport in music between the Afghans and Indians,where the Afghan string instruments like Rabab and Santoor were part of the Hindustani ensemble. Many Indian musical instruments still retain their Persian roots, such as Tabla, derived from Persian tabla;Sitar meaning seven strings and Dilruba being a longer version of Sarangi.The Partition in 1947 dealt a severe blow to the composite culture of the Indian subcontinent. But Ghulam Ali at a concert organized by Radio Lahore sang his own composition in raga Mian ki Todi:Ab Mori Raam / Raam ri Daiyyan (Ram is my only solace). In 1951, he was invited by Morarji desai to have Indian citizenship and sing at concerts all over thecountry. According to the cognoscenti,earlier the Ustad's singing was like the sound of the waterfall striking against the mountainside and rushing with great force to mingle with the ocean; now it resembled the vast ocean itself whose might and depth was unfathomable! In 1963, Ghulam Ali shifted to Kolkata where he was frequently invited to sing before highly appreciative audiences. He would say: Maharashtrians are great connoisseurs of classical music, with their approach being technical and academic. The exuberance, which the people of Kolkata show, is characteristic of their emotional and artistic nature!It is in Kolkata that he took young Malti Gilani (singer and later his biographer) as his gunda-bund shagird (committed disciple). She has noted how the open house atmosphere prevailed at the Ghulam Ali residence - reminiscent of the Sufi Khanas and hospices of the Middle Ages. In such places -- as even in the Dargahs today -- a cauldron of rice was always being cooked for the yraveller and food distributed to the rich and the poor alike! In this respect, theSufis of Islam, the Bhaktas of the the Vaishnava cult and the Catholic mystics of the Medieval Europe - they all shared a similar spirit of tolerance and bonhomie. After having accomplished a lot, Ghulam Ali breathed his last in 1968 in Hyderabad -- far away from the green wheat fields of Kasur on the eastern seaboard of India. That he always took his listeners on an inward journey of musical understanding and fulfillment remained true to his last day. This biography provides an insight not only into the music of Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan but into the history of Indian classical music at large. ***

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