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Posted: 16 years ago
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summer this is for your understanding of middle east a video clip of muscat and dubai from a popular movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed4cEdjf4Y4
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: wertheid

my opinion is that asma is the worst victim of trp drama. being the youngest of 7 contestants at 17 years she is the most overworked contestant on the show. zee tv has made her into a overworked child labourer for trp and given her an image of a clown.all contestants are given 5 minutes to sing their song and asma has to perform for 15 minutes (5 minutes singing and 10 minutes comedy and drama just for trp). if you see at her first try in srgmp from july 4 to 19 she never did any comedy but when she returned for brahmastra she was given wild card by zee which made her to adopt this comic charecter for trp . but even though she was safe most of the weeks from then she was never declared to be in top three highest voter geters nor was she ever honoured with sangeet chakra which all other contestants have gotten at least once for highest votes by zee but always kept in between the lines so why do you fear that zee will declare her the winner when she was never given any award by zee on the show. everyone complains that her singing is not par with others but she has the most difficult job she may not even have time to practice her song. .others can learn the song in 1 day because they are hindi speaking and dont have to do any drama while she takes 2 days as hindi is difficult for her and on top of that she has to reherse her lines of comedy.this year srgmp is the no 1 show at no 24 position in trp with ii4 at no 48 and svoi at no 70 what does srgmp have that these shows dont which everyone is watching it .its a foreign arab trying to sing hindi.if you see the srgmp singers this year are the worst and mediacore compared to raja aneek amanath of last year. last year srgmp was third position with ii3 at 1st because of amit paul prashant and svoi at no 2 because of ishmeet harshit. this year srgmp has become no 1. but their singers like prathiba yashita soumen are very average and mediacore as compared to ii4's mohit bhavya bhanu. if asma leaves the trps go low. zee tv will definately pull her out of the show when the final nears so you forum members dont have to worry that she wins or reaches the top 3. do you feel that the same zee tv which humiliated her by making video clips of contestants abusing her for trp is being partial to her and will crown her the winner . its just for their trps i will bet all my money to anyone that she will go at maximum to top 5 but not more than that. even if she gets the highest vote every week to the final zee wont let her win past their own indians and paki contestants . evryone across the arab strip to Afghans and Pakis are voting for her to win but surely she wont. because rigging system runs in Indian tv. in India channels stoop very low for trp and money.and what is her image after returning to Middle East and Oman where arabs are very image concious and ruled by kings who attach importance to prestige of their country.that of a comic clown.just because she wanted to make her country and family proud by singing in bollywood .i presently reside in india but was working in middle east before.asma is still staying in the competition because she is to innocent to understand indian system and cant understand that she is being used for trp. she thinks if she improves her singing and adds comedy she can win the competition.she has only seen india through indian films and tv and not the reality of india .she thinks that the system of voting is fair in india like in middle east . asma has breen brought up in an innocent conservative civilized cultural region where crime rate is nil and breaking rules like cheating,murder,theft,rape importing drugs is banned importing israeli goods is banned prostitution intercaste muslim marriage is banned not praying during prayer timings at mosque not wearing traditional dress on festivals like eid, and can lead to punishment like cutting of head or 100 lashes to the back. arabs are conservative but at the same time modern unlike pakis who are completely conservative and even abusive to women and alchahol and smoking is not allowed in pakistan. in middle east you are allowed to wear modern dressing , divorce is allowed magazines with po*n are allowed public hugging is allowed to greet others drinking and smoking in public places is allowed, wearing swimwear to beach and having a relation before marriage if with a person of same cast is involved is allowed clubing and discos are there and women are given equal rights with men and men are killed or beaten up if they are abusive to their wives or partners in arab countries. women are allowed to work and go to school and contest elections and participate in local arab media like acting in films and soaps, reality shows and singing publicly but not perform in media outside the borders of the middle east and in a foreign country.its liberal region but if rules are broken like performing in foreign countrys like india fatwa is issued.asmas mother encouraged her participation in srgmp middle east but not in srgmp india.arabs also have luxorious lifestyle and are rich. arabs citizens dont go to work in profesional jobs like teacher doctor engineer as these are performed by south asian expats who are given less salary than arabs. arabs citizens are given free welfare salary by the govt so they can sit at home and enjoy and not go to work due to heavy income generated from petrol pearls tourism dry fruit and very little population of local arabs in home countries to distribute income generated by the govt. and large amount of south asian expat working class. arabs are mostly found during the day in beaches shopping malls dessert parties theatres animal fighting games clubs and bars music halls political disscusions playing cards and chess horse riding and football stadiums as they dont go to work. only expats have to work full time for their money. also general items like petrol food can be purchased at half price by arab citizens while expats have to pay double the price. it is difficult for non arabs living in middle east like south asian to get arab citizenship as only 100 people are given citizenship anually by arab gulf countries together.arabs have sri lankan nepali and bangladeshi low class workers as their servants and drivers.asma has arab citizenship but is issued fattwa by religious police of oman for breaking rules bysinging in a foreign country in foreign language.



Very hard to read..

Please break this into paragraphs to make it readable..no offense meant
Edited by April2007 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: wertheid

asma has arab citizenship but is issued fattwa by religious police of oman for breaking rules bysinging in a foreign country in foreign language.

I dont get it - didnt she know this will happen before coming to the show? Her father would have known for sure. And she went back to Oman after she was eliminated from the preliminary rounds, right? So this was issued after she returned in the Brahmastra round? Where did you get this piece of information from? Now I dont want to watch another gimmick drama by Asma based on this in the next airing of SRGMP. Once she made a big deal about her parents' divorce because of her coming to the show, and I read elsewhere that her mother was the biggest supporter for her singing in the show when the audition was done in the Middle East for SRGMP contestants. I am finding it hard to believe any sensational news about Asma these days!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#14
she knew the fatwa would happen but her father knowing this told her to go for srgmp india to pursue her dream of singing in bollywood. her mother supported her for srgmp middle east because it was held in their homeland but not for srgmp india as it is perfoming in a region outside the middle east which she does not like especially because there are many cases of rape and making passes at women in india because in india women are looked at like objects while women in middle east are respected. her mother thought asma will be performing on national tv in india and lots of men in india look at reality show contestants in a dirty way. she had not returned to oman after 1st elimination but was told by zee tv to stay back since brahmastra would be held soon.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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also srgmp middle east is not an audition ground for srgmp india its a seperate show which was won by faraz butt from pakistan as the male winner and asma rafi from oman as the female winner. asma mom supported her winning srgmp middle east.adesh who was the judge of srgmp middle east then offered asma an opportunity to come to india and sing in srgmp india.asma wanted to go but her mother was against it. but she decided to go and sing.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: wertheid

she knew the fatwa would happen but her father knowing this told her to go for srgmp india to pursue her dream of singing in bollywood. her mother supported her for srgmp middle east because it was held in their homeland but not for srgmp india as it is perfoming in a region outside the middle east which she does not like especially because there are many cases of rape and making passes at women in india because in india women are looked at like objects while women in middle east are respected. her mother thought asma will be performing on national tv in india and lots of men in india look at reality show contestants in a dirty way. she had not returned to oman after 1st elimination but was told by zee tv to stay back since brahmastra would be held soon.

OMG, your information is all wrong. It's the reverse! Remember the big sensational case of the gang raped 17 year old girl in Pakistan because she belonged to lower caste and her brother fell in love with a upper caste girl? Only in developed countries like US, UK, Australia, etc where all the rape stories will come out in the light. Everywhere else, especially in deeply religious countries like Middle East, India, etc., it will be hidden most of the time. Not only the victims but also the parents and relatives will do everything to cover it up, as it will be humiliating for the family in the society - that is what they think and believe.
And you said women are respected in the Middle East - I dont want to start a war here, but do you truly believe they are? If so, why are they forced to cover from head to toe and stay inside their homes and not go for higher education and work and build careers or professions? The girls in the Middle East do not have the same freedom and privileges like the girls in India. You ask Asma, and she will tell you the difference she would have felt and understood by now. There is a lot to the truth than what you believe blindly. Let the women from those nations speak after they are exposed to other cultures.
Edited by akanna - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#17
akanna i dont know where you live in india or us but im sure you definately dont live in the gulf or never have been in the there from your knowledge of gulf.and you are an idiot for saying that pakistan is in the gulf and shares the same culture of gulf. i know the gulf as i used to live there for 6 years in dubai and 4 years in muscat. i know that women are respected and if you dont beleive me then i can send you pictures of my stay in the muscat and dubai.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: wertheid

akanna i dont know where you live in india or us but im sure you definately dont live in the gulf or never have been in the there from your knowledge of gulf.and you are an idiot for saying that pakistan is in the gulf and shares the same culture of gulf. i know the gulf as i used to live there for 6 years in dubai and 4 years in muscat. i know that women are respected and if you dont beleive me then i can send you pictures of my stay in the muscat and dubai.

You are breaking the rule of this forum by calling me names and I can report you.
I didnt say Pakistan is in the Gulf - where in my post did I say that?! You were just reading between the lines. BTW, if I make an assumption that you mean India is like Pakistan when it comes to treating women, would you agree to it? So please dont read between lines.
I have been to Gulf, so dont underestimate that I am not exposed. I live in the US, but I have also lived in India, Australia, UK and Canada, along with short term stays in NZ, Singapore and Middle East. Plus I have umpteen friends including females in the Middle East, who are natives or foregners there, and so dont think I make statements with blind assumptions.
I dont want to comment more as I dont want to create issues in this forum. I dont mean that all nations there are the same or treat women the same, but in general, it is not the truth. 😃
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Posted: 16 years ago
#19
stop this or royal police force will be needed
we should say good things and hide bad things. thats a royal advice if you want to live in peace becaue bad comes out of bad. you will bad mouth someone he will bad mouth you 10 times more
so say good things about each other
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Wertheid is new to the forum. Anyway some of the views expressed here can be clarified but there is no reason to get into an argument.

Most of us view other countries based on newspapers and perodicals which often only hightlight crimes and bombings and other problems. These are often isolated cases. When we look at a big country like India, China, etc there a bound to be a few problems in certain areas.

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