why our musicians refuse to give due credit

Punjabi folk sung by Reshma titled 'Akhian nu rehen de'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-H1W-sNiyw

Lyrics and music (ditto) were used by Laxmikant Pyarlal in the
chartbuster movie 'bobby' and one of all time favourites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTkrvKgwL1w

Another example is Punjabi / Rajhistani folk song sung by Reshma 'way
mein chori chori'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWM8tKYRPbg

Same composition was used in the movie 'lekin' by Hridayanath
Mangeshkar in the song 'yara silli silli'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC92n0wXs8k

There is a difference between 'sadaa churiyan da chamba' lyrics and
composition. Poetry is punjabi folk and is in public domain, just like
bulleh shah's sufiyana kalam/poetry. The tune, however, is artist's
own invention.

The same tappa is sung by Gurdaas maan, Tufail Niazi, Reshma, Arif
Lohar and Mussarrat Nazir. All of them sung the tappa in their own
composition.

Gurdaas man

Tufail Niazi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQDokFw9i78

Reshma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJgf6WTDEGo

Mussarat Nazir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8s9vxwG_-A

Now Himesh Reshammiya used Mussarrat Nazir's composition in his song
'chher de pyar ki baat' which should be termed plagiarism.

Himesh's song (listen from 1:16)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdM5aiIOXY

There are innumerable other examples like nimbua (HDDCS by ID), will post more in this category.

All finds are hard wok of guy called Jamshid, who is working for folk songs getting due credit.

Himesh has used many folk song even in the begnning of his career. Remember movie Kaya Dil ne kaha had song "Chhap tilak sab chine toh se naina mila ke" but the music was diffrent and that what make it diffrent from plagiarism. In plagiarism the music is note to note copied. Folk songs does not have any copyrights so by using folk song no rule or law and order is broken and hence it does not comes under plagiarism. Also wording of the songs comes from the lyrics writter and not from the composer. I think by using folk songs and mordern music actually help keeping the folk songs of India alive.As the time changes, audience taste of music also changes and hence these folk songs may not able to survive for long time but with this method folk songs can be passed to next generation.

Plagarism is the intentional copying of something. For old folk songs, I am guessing that the copyright has expired if there ever was one held so there would be no copyright violation. So people would feel free to reinterpret such songs. The issue to me is more not giving credit or using copyrighted songs without permission.

I think that using old songs in a fresh way is a great way to reintroduce them to the public.

I don't think it's plagarism. In fact I really like it when they use folk songs in Hindi movies because then a regional song is exposed to the rest of the country. But then there is no shame in accepting that it is based on a folk song so I think on the CD they should at least write "based on Punjabi (or whatever) folk song"

Another film song based on a folk song would be Baghban's "Holi Khele Raghuveera." The music was by Aadesh.

And of course the Rajisthani folk song Kesariya which has been used to death in Hindi movies.

Giving due credits will serve two puposes, on one hand this will give some glory to the original folk singer/composer on the other hand this will avoid hassles like BMG copmany sueing TIP cassettes for 350000 dollars for what Pritam did, who has been earlier also indirectly sued for plagiarism.

Nimbuda example: ID could have avoided the controversy and given due credits to folk singer but he chose the other way round and result is in front of us. These days world is a closed village and information is flowing through internt freely wont it be wise to pay royalty and due credit rrather earn a court case.?

Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Thanks Summer for the link. Reshmaji is simply superb. 👏