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Posted: 17 years ago
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i think its better to leave the classical music alone. If it is as good as it is, some people will hang on to it .. and it will continue to be their.....music should be good thats it... its better that way rather than giving out some semi-classical stuff just for the heck of it..

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Posted: 17 years ago
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In old days hindi music did provide some shelter to classical stuff because of the sheer quality of compositions and innumerable raag based songs, which we don't have now, I am sure if we had serious competitions where these rounds are used it will help to promote this culture. Also on FM and TV channels at least half an hour of raag based recitation will be great.

In my school days both in morning and afternoon there was a raag based recitation on AIR and that automatically got me hooked to this thing without understading a word about raag actually, like I clearly remember once they played some one singing raag dhani followed by jo chahe phal pawe tere naam (forgetting film) by Lata ji on same raag, I am sure this can be brought back, what say.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Great article IDji! Many thanks for this! 👏
Even on DD there used to be a raga based program which covered one raga per episode and showcased both classical and light classical film songs based on the raga. This program had a rerun very recently! This should be brought back very seriously and if possible have mainstream singers singing the raga-based film songs and most importantly be aired at prime time and not some obscure 11 pm at night or 6 am in the morning! 😊
We have been praying and hoping for long that they have a semi classical round in these dud reality shows but that does not seem to be happening any time soon and also not sure if these singers will be able to do justice so in a way i guess its ok ... i wudnt want them murdering these classics!
And abt a reality show with only classical songs is something I am in two minds abt ... not sure how many ppl will turn out for something like this and then i dont want them too discouraged with all the silly drama that has become a part and parcel of reality shows these days.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

i think its better to leave the classical music alone. If it is as good as it is, some people will hang on to it .. and it will continue to be their.....music should be good thats it... its better that way rather than giving out some semi-classical stuff just for the heck of it..



The popularity of classical music is deteriorating day by day.. If its left just for those who like it, then the time is not far when we loose our heritage.. Its important that we promote our strengths to younger generation.. Just like these days boxing, rifle shooting is being promoted to develop interest in the youth, its important that we spread the message of our culture to various section of audience.. One may not have heard classical but might like it after listening to it.. Even 2/10 accepting classical is of a huge benefit to the country..
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anuradha



The popularity of classical music is deteriorating day by day.. If its left just for those who like it, then the time is not far when we loose our heritage.. Its important that we promote our strengths to younger generation.. Just like these days boxing, rifle shooting is being promoted to develop interest in the youth, its important that we spread the message of our culture to various section of audience.. One may not have heard classical but might like it after listening to it.. Even 2/10 accepting classical is of a huge benefit to the country..

I fully agree with you here.
There aer quite a few top notch millionaires from India on international list for whom sponsoring a programme of this nature once a week could be nothing more than pea nuts I am sure many of them would agree if some one contacts them.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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By Kishori Amonkar, Hindustani classical vocalist.


I am a vocalist dealing solely with musical notes. I strive hard to perceive, understand and present them in all their purity and vitality. The credit goes to my gurus. "Teach yourself," they said, "to be a good human being before you call yourself an artiste." According to them, music is a balm that relieves pains and miseries. Its purpose is to put us in touch with ourselves.

My mother told me: "Sing for nature and everything will respond to you." How true were those words! Birds, animals, trees, the grass and even the sun seem to reciprocate when I sing. Whenever I feel this, I feel convinced that I am giving divine music to the world.

Today, music is treated as a commodity. Those who sing for the gallery add further fuel to fire. They don't realize that just gathering a repertoire does not necessarily make them knowledgeable about the spirit of music. Music, according to our ancient treatises, has a medicinal value, provided we know when and how to use a particular note. We should remember the purpose of music, its beginning, its transit and its end. To understand and assimilate this, we should seek help from a guru.

A guru always guides us into the deeper realms of knowledge. In fact, a guru reaches the ultimate and becomes an embodiment of the ultimate. I have tremendous faith in Guru Raghavendraji. To me, he is God. In fact, his presence is so kind that it is impossible to distance myself from him. I also respect Mother Teresa. She helped the needy till her dying day. In that sense she was extremely religious.

I believe God is everywhere, even in my musical notes. Hence, it is important not to treat them but be treated by them. Whoever wants to know music should perceive the entire ocean of notes. Perseverance is essential. In fact, I see myself today as a sadhaka, a spiritually devoted learner, treating the subject as a sadhana, devoted practice, to attain the sadhya, the spiritual goal.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Mainstream, Vol XLV, No 33


This article evoked sharp response from many corners (outlook)

Heir Gloom

by Arindam Mukherje

On Hindustani Classical Music

As our musical legends dwell in their twilight years, there seem to be few worthy of inheriting their mantle. Is the future bleak for the Hindustani classical tradition?

When renowned shehnai masestro Ustad Bismillah Khan passed away last month, one of his close relatives made a telling remark: ?Ab Bismillah Hotel band ho gaya.? The reference was to the hordes of relatives who formed Khansaab?s household and lived off his earnings. The irony drew from a very different kind of poverty: there is a big question mark over who will inherit his unique musical legacy. None of Bismillah?s shehnai-playing sons, relatives or disciples have displayed an iota of his genius. Many fear it?s curtains for the shehnai, an oddball instrument of common origin that Bismillah had singularly breathed life into. In many ways, Bismillah?s life and death mirror the current crisis in Hindustani classical music. A majority of India?s current music maestros, some in their 70s and 80s, and a large number in their late 60s, have no clearly defined line of succession. There are, of course, star children and star disciples, but in many cases, their talent does not live up to the publicity blitzkrieg surrounding them.

Take Gangubai Hangal, in her 90s and ailing, who took the gayaki of the famed Kirana gharana to great heights. After the death of her daughter Krishna Hangal, there is no musical successor in sight. Her unique musical tradition, perfected through years of rigorous riyaaz, could be lost forever. Fellow Kirana gharana vocalist Pandit Bhimsen Joshi has no torchbearer to carry forward his lineage either. Already pushing 84, he has been in poor health for some years now and, after the demise of his wife last year, has hardly performed in public. His son Srinivas, who studied textile engineering at IIT, Delhi, is still finding his

Gangubai Hangal, 93, vocalist. Prominent disciples: no successors after daughter and disciple Krishna Hangal?s death.

Pandit Bhimsen Joshi, 84, vocalist. Prominent disciple: Madav Gudi, but no clear successor.

feet in the music fraternity. His most prominent disciple, Madhav Gudi, shows considerable promise, but is yet to make it big on the national music scene. There seems no one in sight then who can ensure that Bhimsen Joshi?s unmatched style, which enthralled audiences for over four decades, lives on. There are several other ageing musical legends who have no one to inherit their mantle, amog them vocalists Kishori Amonkar, Girija Devi,

Hari Prasad Chaurasia, 68, flautist. Prominent disciple: Rupak Kulkarni. Nephew Rakesh Chaurasia likely successor.

Pandit Jasraj and sitar maestro Ustad Abdul Haleem Jafar Khan. They either have no disciples at all or none that are outstanding. Even among those musical geniuses who do have hundreds of promising and talented disciples across the world, like Pandit Ravi Shankar and Ustad Ali Akbar Khan, there is no clear-cut successor who can easily step into their illustrious shoes. Already, many of the musical styles the great masters of yesteryear developed are close to extinction. Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan of the Patiala gharana did have son and disciple Munawar Ali Khan carrying on his legacy for a while, but after Munawar Ali?s death, that gharana is almost gone. Although Munawar?s disciple Ajoy Chakraborty has come up as an acclaimed singer in his own right, he is not a patch on Bade Ghulam Ali?making do with mere attempts at faithful reproduction than anything else. It?s the same with sitar great Ustad

Ustad Ali Akbar Khan, 84, sarod exponent. Prominent disciples: Son Ashish Khan and Ken Zuckerman but no clear successor.

Vilayat Khan, who died in 2004. His son Shujaat lacks his father?s genius, and younger son Hedayat is yet to make his mark. Ditto for Nikhil Banerjee, considered by some connoisseurs as the greatest sitar player ever. The Delhi and Rampur gharanas which once boasted of greats like Nasir Ahmed Khan and Mushtaq Husain Khan, are?save Rashid Khan in the latter case?now practically extinct. Sadly, the list is endless.

What is it that the current generation lacks which prevents them from reaching the heights the old masters did? Talent, discipline and dedication. ?Aaj ki hawa hi kharaab hai,? says octogenarian thumri and dadra singer Girija Devi, whose own daughter did not choose music as a serious career. ?Frustration is pushing young people away. There is no money in this line and the younger generation has to look for other means of living,? she says.

Pandit Shiv Kumar Sharma, 68, santoor player. Prominent disciple: Satish Vyas. Son Rahul Sharma likely successor. Flautist Pandit Hari Prasad Chaurasia has a similar view: ?Many promising students have to kill their talent because they have to earn a living from fields other than music.? Agrees Dr Kiran Seth, founder and chairperson of Spic-Macay, which has been promoting classical music among young people for three decades: ?Aspiring young musicians require a safety net, so they look for alternate careers. In earlier times, the safety net was provided by royal patronage which took care not only of the musician and his family but also his disciples.?

It is also true that few in the current crop are willing to undergo the years of practice and hours of service to their guru that the old masters used to demand of their disciples. As Ustad Vilayat Khan recalled in a conversation with this correspondent a few months before he died: ?We used to do riyaaz of a particular taan, counting not by the hours, but by the number of candles burning down. We would aspire to be a paanch-mombatti riyaazi. That spirit is missing today.?

The decline in musical standards, say many virtuosos, is also because many in the new generation are getting exposure on the public stage without first attaining the necessary level of perfection or maturity. Says sarod maestro Pandit Buddhadev Dasgupta: ?There is a terrific lack of patience amongst the new generation, who want to hit the stage after just two-three years of learning. In our times, even after 15-20 years of rigorous taleem, gurus didn?t find students fit to perform in public.? Sitar maestro Debu Chaudhury points to another dimension. ?Audiences aren?t discerning any more either. Earlier, they would pick out even a single note which went awry. Today, there are several top musicians, many of them performing round the year in India and abroad, who break the rules (of raga and tala) and no one even notices.?

It?s also an era of stage-managed success where professional agencies are roped in to ?manage? the public image of star children and disciples. Says Chaudhury: ?There are artistes who spend up to Rs 5 lakhs a year to promote themselves and their children. Musical reputation is no longer the result of hard work, but of PR hype.?

A few leading musical savants blame some gurus themselves for not having been able to prepare worthy shishyas. Says Girija Devi: ?Bismillah Khan went on performing even in his old age. Why didn?t he push his disciples forward? Why didn?t Gangubai let her disciples come up with her?? Agrees Chaurasia: ?There is a lack of proper taleem because a lot of today?s gurus are top performers and have one foot in India and the other in the US all the time. When will they teach??

Santoor exponent Shiv Kumar Sharma, however, thinks otherwise. Defending the seniors, Sharma, who has already found a capable heir in his younger son Rahul and also has prominent disciples, says: ?Just like it is rare to get a good guru, it is equally rare for gurus to get a good disciple. Every performer is not an able guru and vice-versa. Not everyone has the kind of patience required for teaching.?

Is there anything at all then that can be done to preserve and perpetuate our great musical traditions and build upon them? Former Union Minister and music aficionado Vasant Sathe believes there must be an equivalent of the royal patronage that produced the great ustads, and the government should step in not just with monetary help but also by providing opportunities

Pandit Jasraj, 76, vocalist. Prominent disciple: Sanjeev Abhyankar, but no clear successor.

and rewards. Says he: ?New channels are being opened everyday for news and entertainment. Why isn?t there one exclusive Doordarshan channel for classical music that can act as a platform for artistes?? Agrees Girija Devi: ?Crores of rupees are being pumped by companies into cricket. How many people does that benefit and what tradition is it keeping alive? Even if a fraction of that came to music, we would see a better tomorrow.?

Others have come up with proposals to involve the corporate sector in this area. Spic-Macay, for instance, has gone to NRIs and corporate leaders like Mukesh Ambani to develop a corpus fund which can support musicians and their chosen disciples. Yet others, like Pandit Hari Prasad Chaurasia, are trying to revive the residential guru-shishya parampara of teaching. He has started a Vrindavan Gurukul in Mumbai which chierrypicks promising young musicians and puts them through a proper training regime where they don?t have to worry about making an alternative living and can concentrate exclusively on music.

So, is there hope yet? Yes, believe many musicians. Despite the decline of the gharana system and the pressure to look for alternate sources of livelihood, there are a few brilliant younger musicians who have proved themselves worthy of inheriting the mantle of the greats, even if many of them do not come from illustrious musical dynasties. Star progenies like Mukul Shivputra (Kumar Gandharva?s son), Ashish Khan (Ustad Ali Akbar Khan?s son), Anoushka Shankar, Aman and Ayaan Ali have met more than their match in vocalists like Veena Sahasrabuddhe and Shruti Shadolikar, sitar players shahid Parvez and Purvayan Chatterjee, and sarod player Parthosarathi. They inspire hope that Hindustani classical music can be brought back from today?s chicken run to what it should be?an ibadat, a prayer.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Very gud article and very gud point for discussion.....This is something that I hv also mentioned many times before(whnever i got an opportunity ) ...The fate of classical music in the future is at best,questionable....

Classical music can easily be understood by the layman if it is also marketed the way these non sense album/film songs are marketed.Nowadays barring ARR most MDs do not seem to use any classical raga for their songs..No wonder the songs sound really awful(barring a few)..The idea of mentioning the raga in the cassette is a wonderful one....or maybe a competition based on classical music..If that is too much,why not at least a programme on classial music where talented and upcoming classical singers are given a platform to sing?That wld be encouraging for them too and a treat for us..They cld sing a mixture of semi classical,bhajan and fully classical songs(so that laymen can understand it better)....They could even sing one classical song and sing one film song based on that raga..That way,ppl's interest cld be aroused.....

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Posted: 17 years ago
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I think DD is far better than others in this aspect.They,at least show some programmes based on classical music..The rest of the channels can't think beyond these stupid soaps and stupider reality shows.....I think barring some programmes on DD and some on Jaya TV(Tamil) almost no chanel shows any programme related to classical music /dance...

Here,I wld however put in a special mention for Asianet & Kairali TV .These seems to be the only popular regional channels which telecast programmes based on classical music and dance.Between them,these channels currently have two prime time popular programmes on classical dance.They also hv their version of SRGMP(Idea star singer) where the quality of judges and their feedback is excellent.Once the top 5/6 are chosen,they have a classical round.The top singers hv a to perform one song in a proper "kacheri" format.They are supposed to chose a proper classical song(not a filmi one) and sing it with alaap,swarams etc.This is one of the rounds in the finals..I wish Zee SRGMP wld learn a thing or two from them.This goes to show that with proper marketing classical music(or dance) can and will be accepted by the public.....

Plz shed light if anyone is aware of any other programmes on classical muisc running currently on prime time Television,irrespective of language. I think they are really few and far between

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Posted: 17 years ago
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TV & FM radio can play a bigger role in saving our precious classical music heritage.

We have numerous FM radio stations having a wide listenership across almost all the cities in India. The least they can do is allocate atleast 1 or 2 hrs of their air time towards playing classical compositions(both instrumental and vocal) each day, which give a lot of exposure to our classical talents both established and budding. This way the listener who is not familiar with Indian classical music can start appreciating the finer nuances and soothing nature of our great musical heritage. This suggestion goes for preserving our folk and tribal music traditions as well.

I think there is an exclusive music competition programme on Asianet TV for Carnatic music where the participants sing only classical compositions and eminent classical masters judge them and give their valuable insights.

So why not have a similar classical music competition on the nation wide popular channels like Zee and star without the standard staple fare of drama and SMS voting?

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