Crime and Punishment - Page 2

Those who outright term Satrupa as selfish don't really understand the complexities of the character.

We are ALL selfish. We are not selfless beings who go round doing everything right. Satrupa has made MANY mistakes and she lives with them everyday, with every breath. That's her punishment! Do not for one second think that she lives her life peacefully.

Originally posted by: rouble_lover

I'm NOT trying to justify what she did to Ladoo, nor am I saying she did that out of love!! All I am saying is.. she did it because of her insecurity! She finally was receiving the love from Anami which she longed for, she saw what conditioned it.. Laadoo disappearing made Anami come close to her, which she longed for! She just wanted the exchange of love and affection to last a little longer.. and all she could see is getting that from her. True she manipulated the situation and after it was going out of hand, she realized her mistake! And besides, she wasn't going to keep Ladoo away for long! It was just a matter of few days.. but, she did what a love hungry mother would wld do, who is blinded by her goal without giving the consequences of her actions a thought! What she did was wrong true!!! I never said it was right, but when you think about it from a psychological point of view of a person like Satrupa, and keeping her story in mind, you would understand why he did what she did.

And in all honesty, if Anami had tried working to mend and build things with Satrupa, for the sake of Vatsalya, stayed mad, but not hated her soo much, then Satrupa would not have had to take this step. Satrupa never showed her vulnerable side to Anami.. always took things in stride.. even though Anami's behavior would be killing her, inside.. she tried talking to her, showing her love, tried to build a bond with her, but no! Anami would fight it. but this time Satrupa melted. She cared to get love back from her, cherishing the closeness.. true it was selfish, keeping her miserable without Ladoo, but the pain brought her closer to her.. you can't really blame her when you look at it from a psychological point of view.. but, morally yes, it was wrong.

Satrupa kept Laddoo in a golden cage. And Anami in another golden cage.

Originally posted by: rouble_lover

I'm NOT trying to justify what she did to Ladoo, nor am I saying she did that out of love!! All I am saying is.. she did it because of her insecurity! She finally was receiving the love from Anami which she longed for, she saw what conditioned it.. Laadoo disappearing made Anami come close to her, which she longed for! She just wanted the exchange of love and affection to last a little longer.. and all she could see is getting that from her. True she manipulated the situation and after it was going out of hand, she realized her mistake! And besides, she wasn't going to keep Ladoo away for long! It was just a matter of few days..Just a matter of few days.. just like that?? When your brother/close relative is kidnapped each second seems like years.. each second you die a thousand death.. the mental pain and torture is inequatable and uncompensatable..but, she did what a love hungry mother would wld do, who is blinded by her goal without giving the consequences of her actions a thought! What she did was wrong true!!! I never said it was right, but when you think about it from a psychological point of view of a person like Satrupa, and keeping her story in mind, you would understand why he did what she did.I understand how a lady like Satrupa did it but I can't accept a mother could do it.

And in all honesty, if Anami had tried working to mend and build things with Satrupa, for the sake of Vatsalya, stayed mad, but not hated her soo much, then Satrupa would not have had to take this step. ya ofcourse Anami is to be blamed.. An immature 17yr girl is supposed to be the understanding one here and forgive a 40+ insecure lady because she is her biological mother...what all should she forgive.. abandoning her at birth?(satrupa may have thousand reason to do that but it doesn't cover the injustice done to Anami), one fine day coming back takes her away from her happy family and throwing her in a hell where everyone hates her and some are behind her life?, Falsely accusing her beloved parents and taking them to police station, threatening her mother and bringing her little brother into this mess and playing with his life?Satrupa never showed her vulnerable side to Anami.. always took things in stride.. even though Anami's behavior would be killing her, inside.. she tried talking to her, showing her love, tried to build a bond with her, but no! Anami would fight it. it's Satrupas duty to take efforts and make Anami understand.. for that first of all she has to own her mistakes and amend it.. it won't be easy,Anami will resist but satrupa has to try hard since her mistakes are not light.. Anami won't come and seek answers, why should she.. she just came here for 1yr vanvas with a plan to return to her family as soon as possible.. Anami dnt need satrupa or LM,instead it's Satrupa and LM who need Anami.so satrupa need to disclose why she did what she did and explain her majboori.. it won't be easy but she has to try hard and not look for an easy path and end up doing more mistakes.but this time Satrupa melted. She cared to get love back from her, cherishing the closeness.. true it was selfish, keeping her miserable without Ladoo, but the pain brought her closer to her.. you can't really blame her when you look at it from a psychological point of view.. but, morally yes, it was wrong. I dislike many aspects of Anami, gets angry with her times.I dislike her for her I know it all attitude, I dislike her for not listening others warning/advice of her well-wishers(Adhiraj/Dadi) and ends up bringing trouble to herself and others,I dislike her for her she is always right attitude, I dislike her for having the superiority complex of being a Benarasi and degrading other cultures.. but in this Anami-Satrupa war I can completely connect with Anami.She is completely right in her place...I can understand people sympathising with satrupa.but I dnt understand how they excuse mature 40+ ladies mistakes by bringing up the circumstances and her past life, but doesn't do the same for a teen girl and ends up blaming her for not being understanding enough and not forgiving..I get upset with the partiality here.

A person can be immature.. but a 17 year is not stupid or dumb! She may not understand a mother's point of view.. but, she can at least give a chance to 'hear' her? She seems emotionally understanding, and even an emotional fool.. (Sudha incident) but she is not stupid. She is old enough to try and hear another person to understand them! If from the beginning she decided to not bear any hearings then no one can help her!

Originally posted by: rouble_lover

A person can be immature.. but a 17 year is not stupid or dumb! She may not understand a mother's point of view.. but, she can at least give a chance to 'hear' her? She seems emotionally understanding, and even an emotional fool.. (Sudha incident) but she is not stupid. She is old enough to try and hear another person to understand them! If from the beginning she decided to not bear any hearings then no one can help her!

Originally posted by: rouble_lover

A person can be immature.. but a 17 year is not stupid or dumb! She may not understand a mother's point of view.. but, she can at least give a chance to 'hear' her? She seems emotionally understanding, and even an emotional fool.. (Sudha incident) but she is not stupid. She is old enough to try and hear another person to understand them! If from the beginning she decided to not bear any hearings then no one can help her!

Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Agree with you! Nobody can deny what Satrupa did was wrong but her intentions were far from malicious. They were done out of desperation and craving for her daughters love and it's all fine for the fictitious world to say mothers are always selfless but in real life they actually are HUMAN. What Satrupa has done in the past is outright wrong. Can it ever be justified? Probably not but you cannot deny that she really really wants Anami's love, she needs it I feel. Remember when Vatsalya wrote in his diary 'my mother is only alive with me'. Whatever happened with Satrupa in the past we don't fully know but we do know that no mother would be ever at peace knowing that they gave their child away. Look at the situation she's in, her young son was killed and her daughter hates her. This would break anyone but somehow Satrupa lives and to be honest, the only time she looks happy is with her kids. One will never get back so how can she not crave the others love? When she saw that finally her daughter is showing some affection, Satrupa became vulnerable and made a mistake.

I understand Anami was wronged, but we also ha e to understand Satrupa's character.. she's used to working with force.. once she knows what she wants, she uses force and extreme measures to get what she wants. That's a character flaw.. it's part of human nature, for a build-in character like hers. It's neither good nor bad, it is what it is.. Maybe that's what's she has learnt in life, that bought her results she wanted.. her method is ALWAYS wrong..but not her intention..

Example:

1. Forcefully bringing Anami to LM threatening to put her foster parents in jail
2. Getting the family to agree on the DNA testing, using her MIL
3. Trying to pay Pushottam to join her and to go against his sister
4. Disappearing Laadoo to gain Anami affection

And many more !!!

It's just how her character works.. true she didn't answer Anami, because honestly she doesn't have any answer, she was too dependent and blinded on her son's love, her need for affection from her 'child' was being fulfilled so she didn't think of Anami.

She is selfish when it comes to her needs and wants and does whatever she feels she has to get it. She reminds me of a mafia don, like in the movie, The Godfather..

All I was saying, is that, Satrupa isn't good about expressing herself what she intends.. and people only get to see her actions and judge her by that. Anami's grandmother is a better communicator, which is why Anami feels more easy to talk and connect with her..

What I meant to say is, Anami is too quick to judge, being a 17 year old is understandable, but, she is sooo engulfed in her anger and hatred that she completely refuses to hear Satrupa. I am not asking her to forgive and or forget but all I am saying, before taking or making any rash or impulsive decisions just because she hates her mother, she should try to hear her mother to understand her, as in, does what she says makes sense? Then make a judgement. Don't judge on what or how things look like.. but, listen first, then judge!

It is true Anami was kept in the dark to suffer.. but Satrupa saw she found her arms to gain solace from, which is what she longed for.. due her character flaw, she couldn't see what her actions were looking like or leading up to.. all she saw.. "Anami is needing me, she is hugging me,she is loving me, she is looking to me for support..I want to hold her, live her, she s reaching out to me :")" and she wanted that only.. but she got blinded in that so much that she could not see the big picture till much later. She did feel bad, but.. she is a love hungry mother. Again, nothing justifies her actions, but, looking at it from a psychological point of view.. it does make sense!

Her character is writtenvery boldly! I am asking you all to look at her character and understand it from a 360 degree point of view, before judging her. Think from Satrupa's angle, and not Anami, as you all are doing now.. to help understand Satrupa's character and reasonings better!!

Rouble_lover, though I agree with u cent percent on Sat's character, the same applies for Anami as well. She is after all her mother's daughter. And many traits will be similar. So she also is thinking from her viewpoint. She did give her mother a chance. So she will take her own time in trying to understand what and why Sat did.