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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Vayuputras

I'm hooked on to this show only because its a different show. I hate leaps and melodrama. That's exactly why I still watch this show. Some of the episodes I must've watched 'n' no of times. I'm crazy abt this show. I would still watch it till the end. No doubt abt it. This is the only show I've been watching with keen interest. I'm not a soap watcher. I've not seen any of Rajeev's earlier serials which you all keep raving about. Nor Kritika's, except her dance shows.

If as you said, i found the heroine clinging to hero's T Shirt, crying, shouting "tum mere sath aise kaise kar sakte ho bla bla bla bla bla" and hero crying miserably, trying to convince heroine "main majboor tha, bla bla bla" i would've simply closed down on it. Thank god it didn't happen.

But still, I would've preferred if the creatives had taken a not-so-travelled path for this incident. They have been highly creative all these days. They had raised their own bar themselves. Suddenly I found it dipping. I couldn't digest when a dead man is sending an email saying, "I've been murdered" and the heroine believing it!

Anyways, as you rightly said, things should sort out hopefully.

Ananya believed the first email. For a daughter whose father disappeared 8 years back and the body was not found, the family would always hav hope of his return. Its a very natural feeling. Its about being positive and believing in GOD. While she discussed with her family, her hopes of her father being alive was very high. Several scenes hav already been shown to the viewers about the closeness of the family to the father figure.
The second email shattered these hopes. What shocked her more was Kabir's name in it so she turned to him for confirmation of the incident. Where does the scene show that Ananya believed the second email came from her father? Once Kabir confirmed with a Yes, she realised her father was dead.
As simple as that. The entire sequence has been projected very well. 👏
Maanav has faltered big time. When Kabir finds out the hacker, he is dead for sure...😃
-Rekha
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Danseuse

Ananya believed the first email. For a daughter whose father disappeared 8 years back and the body was not found, the family would always hav hope of his return. Its a very natural feeling. Its about being positive and believing in GOD. While she discussed with her family, her hopes of her father being alive was very high. Several scenes hav already been shown to the viewers about the closeness of the family to the father figure.
The second email shattered these hopes. What shocked her more was Kabir's name in it so she turned to him for confirmation of the incident. Where does the scene show that Ananya believed the second email came from her father? Once Kabir confirmed with a Yes, she realised her father was dead.
As simple as that. The entire sequence has been projected very well. 👏
Maanav has faltered big time. When Kabir finds out the hacker, he is dead for sure...😃
-Rekha


to Vayuputras,

Hope is a dangerous thing. All this time Ananya hoped that her father may still be alive because there was so no body found. maybe it was too far fetched or too illogical, but ananya felt a spark of hope. she wasn't a reporter but a daughter who wanted to see her father alive after 8 years of agony, is that so unbelieveable?


The credibility of that email was insignificant when kabir confirmed he was there during the murder. in one blow, ananya's father was officially dead and that kabir was there while it happend. it was not the right time to analyze that letter and even if she did, what difference would it make? would that change the fact that she could no longer ignore? her father is dead and kabir was the witness.

hopefully she will dwell on everything after her mind clears.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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The slap was much justified. I dont know why do we expect Ananya to behave in a particular way? She is the same girl who gave ultimatum to her mother for Kabir. She said her respect for her family and for Kabir are equal and no one is any less. But last night Kabir lost that respect. (Momentorily though) If we can be happy for she going against her mom for Kabir why cant we like she going against Kabir for her dad? For 8 years she considered Kabir as her hero. For her he was the only man who became her fathers angel and messiha in the worst times. This is what connected her to him in the first place. And in one second her whole world came crashing down. Her reason to pursue journalism...her search for truth...her idol worship...her love all came to a state of null and void!! And we expect the girl to react in a different way!! Too much of an expectation isnt it??
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Posted: 9 years ago
#34
My Dear you've hit the nail right on the head...
My very first thought when they showed the mail was the same...

How can a dead man send a mail? ??????

As for the slap...well I'm sure she's somewhat justified j..getting angry. Kabir should definitely have not.hidden this fact from her..

But them.his reasons.also should be understood...he didn't want.to upset her...but still the moment shreya entered KKN he should have wised up to her dirty tricks and that In itself should have rung warning bells in his head...but then as tarini said teachers time of revelation has passed...

Anyways the only Hope now is that ananya understands kabir and both get together and fund out the truth behind all this..
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Posted: 9 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: pomegranate


to Vayuputras,

Hope is a dangerous thing. All this time Ananya hoped that her father may still be alive because there was so no body found. maybe it was too far fetched or too illogical, but ananya felt a spark of hope. she wasn't a reporter but a daughter who wanted to see her father alive after 8 years of agony, is that so unbelieveable?


The credibility of that email was insignificant when kabir confirmed he was there during the murder. in one blow, ananya's father was officially dead and that kabir was there while it happend. it was not the right time to analyze that letter and even if she did, what difference would it make? would that change the fact that she could no longer ignore? her father is dead and kabir was the witness.

hopefully she will dwell on everything after her mind clears.


Ananya is not a normal next door girl. She is very intelligent, smart, has an analytical mind and has cracked tough nuts with this shrewd mind. Agreed at that point of time it mattered that her father is dead and that blinded her completely. But when a person like Kabir who has showered his love on her was just a witness but not a murderer, this strong reaction is undermining all her intelligence. Even a normal person like me can immediately say that dead men cannot send mail. It wasn't expected of Ananya to overlook this. It looked as if she was only waiting to blame Kabir for some reason and she achieved it.

I'm sure she will dwell on everything after her mind clears. Again Ronnie might help her see the reality. 😛

Anyways, I'm not personally undermining anyone in the show nor here in the Forum. It was just a feeling and I shared it. I'm happy so many emotions have emerged here pro and con. Thats what i call a balanced discussion. Very good. I'm happy. Thanks for everyone who contributed. 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Vayuputras


Ananya is not a normal next door girl. She is very intelligent, smart, has an analytical mind and has cracked tough nuts with this shrewd mind. Agreed at that point of time it mattered that her father is dead and that blinded her completely. But when a person like Kabir who has showered his love on her was just a witness but not a murderer, this strong reaction is undermining all her intelligence. Even a normal person like me can immediately say that dead men cannot send mail. It wasn't expected of Ananya to overlook this. It looked as if she was only waiting to blame Kabir for some reason and she achieved it.

I'm sure she will dwell on everything after her mind clears. Again Ronnie might help her see the reality. 😛

Anyways, I'm not personally undermining anyone in the show nor here in the Forum. It was just a feeling and I shared it. I'm happy so many emotions have emerged here pro and con. Thats what i call a balanced discussion. Very good. I'm happy. Thanks for everyone who contributed. 😊


sometimes emotions override logic? ananya is simply human who reacted in a very human way. Ananya hero worshipped kabir for 8 years, she thought of him as her father's only saviour and now she learns he was a witness to SK's murder, in such a horrible situation how is she supposed to analyze the credibility of the email? the "dead person cannot send mail" logic seems so insignifant when her world has been turned upside down,that did not even register because a bigger truth was staring at her right in the face. Ananya loves kabir no doubt and she knows kabir loves her as well, but now the lover and reporter has taken a back seat- now sudhir kashyap's daughter is doing all the thinking.

Both kabir and ananya are looking at this from their own perspective, and each of them are right in their own place.


Ananya took a stand against her own mother when she was against kabir and today, she took a stand against kabir for her father.
Edited by pomegranate - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#37

I have just one request. Before offering justification Ananya's behavior, please think for a minute if the same would have been acceptable for Kabir too.

Would we have accepted it, had it been him slapping Ananya?

Obviously, no, right.

In that case, why should we have two set of rules? one for the guy and one for the girl?

This is like Kabir's ONS. What's wrong is wrong. Let's just accept it for what it is, and move on, without justifying it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: -sharada-

This will surely be taken care of, in the upcoming episodes. As for Ananya, at present, she is not in a condition to think of all these things. All of a sudden, one fine morning, she gets the biggest jolt of her life, in the form of an email from her father's email id after a gap of 8 years, whose death has affected her and her family a lot, and then she gets the second jolt much bigger than the earlier one that her father was murdered in front of Kabir, whom she idealised and adored for his honesty and truthfulness. At present, the thought of her father being murdered and moreover, being cheated by someone whom she not only loved dearly but also idealised are killing her. Moreover, Ananya always preferred being Ananya, the girl rather than Ananya, the journalist. Even in cases like Mahi, Ananya didnt act like a true journalist then, in such situation, how can Ananya, the journalist will take over? We can only complain about this, at the end, if it is not taken care of. At present, its too early to comment on that

Fair enough. She is the same Ananya who says she has good manners to had to invite Shreya to join them for dinner. Didn't want to be rude to her BFs ex. What kind of manners does she show when she slaps someone? Justifying her behavior because of anger or emotion doesn't change fact..that what she did is wrong..

I am not justifying her behaviour. I am just saying that Ananya is no DEMI GODDESS to act wisely and let me tell you dear that, its my personal experience that in real life, people hit each other not only out of impulse but because of habit. Dont believe me? Come to me, I will show you the endless scars on my body that my husband gifted because he used to always light off his cigarette by pressing it on my hands rather than ashtray. And mind you, that was his HABIT!!!


I have just one request. Before offering justification Ananya's behavior, please think for a minute if the same would have been acceptable for Kabir too.

Would we have accepted it, had it been him slapping Ananya?

Obviously, no, right.

In that case, why should we have two set of rules? one for the guy and one for the girl?

This is like Kabir's ONS. What's wrong is wrong. Let's just accept it for what it is, and move on, without justifying it.
My dear, in real life, Kabir is not only allowed by the society to hit Ananya but even police and our so called legal system doesn't mind it. I had to fight for 6 long years ultimately being forced to take my case against my ex husband back for torturing me physically because the judge threatened me that if I wouldnt take it back, I would be in trouble.. You may call it filmy but thats something I have faced...
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Posted: 9 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: asthana.shaily


No I won't call it filmy. I totally understand where you are coming from. My ex husband did not abuse me physically, but he did mentally. He went to court and said I had an affair with about 9 people, including my neighbor, office colleague and childhood family friend. Judge was quite favorable in terms of saying there is no credence in his allegations, coz at this rate, anytime a girl talks to a guy, it can be construed to be an affair. He also gave me custody of my son, till he is 18. That said, I did hear about unfair judges when my case was in court. That was the biggest worry till the verdict came out. I am sorry to hear about your experience.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: violette



The show has always been focussed more on Kabir. His character has been explored inside out and ppl naturally feel more sympathy for him. Ananya is jst a shadow of Kabir. We understood Kabir better bcoz of Ananya. Her character was simple and more justice cud've done to her character. She cud've been equally a central point of this story, bt focus shifted drastically to Kabir's story and his never ending raaz.. now even Ananya's central story SK has shifted its base to Kabir where as it shud've been a converging point for both Ananya and Kabir.😳


isiliye kabhi log Ananya ko gaali dete hai to kabhi Kabir ko... a writer shud put forth views of both protagonists to let us make an unbiased judgement..(unless its a deliberate attempt for amajor eye-opening twist in the end. More like famous O'Henry twists!😳) bt it hasn't happened.. lot of twists were left hanging open in the air, subjecting to multiple interpretations and speculations right from Kabir to Tarini to Ananya and even Richa!


Thnk god we all new beforehand from spoilers tht Shreya was a grey-shaded character, which turned out to b complete evil andpsychootherwise we might have had a Shreya fan club here on the forum!😆


Thanks violette 😳

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