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Posted: 10 years ago
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Firstly I wanna do hi5 to hero 😛😆 as somewhere cant help but agree with him...& as a fangirl cant get enough of being proud of him...for being straightforward & speaking his mind openly...& also, I rarely see celeb interviews giving a topic to discuss about 😆😆😆 & I am glad not only his on screen characters, but Rajeev's interviews make us sit back & ponder over things & discuss...

Even if hadn't been his fan, I wud have still agreed what he said...& by agreeing with him, or supporting Kabir, it doesn't mean Rajeev & I support infidelity, ONS or justify it as right...coz when something is wrong its wrong, no matter how much justifications we can give...& most importantly its to each to his own...how we perceive a particular situation.

As a fictional character, Kabir is like a open space to explore, where we can see Kabir from all perspectives...
--we can see him as good & bad...
--we can see him as a Person, who did a mistake of not staying faithful in a relationship & cheating on his wife ...or we can see him as a person who had been Man enough, to realise that "yes, I Did a MISTAKE"...& go up to confess, if he hadn't confessed it to Shreya or to even Ananya for that matter, no one wud have ever known...

I dont know about Ananya, but I think the "Kabir's realisation" had been one thing which makes me support him...that is what makes Kabir stand apart from other people who commit adultery...like Rajeev said "its Kabir's actions next day, that makes him Man he is."
Its not easy for a person to stand in front of wife & confess, I had a ONS...irrespective whatever status of their marriage is, good or bad, its been on rocks or not...& i really wonder how many people do that...(not everyone gets a SKS platform) & there have been couples life long, they don't even come to know what exactly other partner does behind his/her back...
Be it husband or wife...Its easy to go astray in relationships...& its more than easy to blame circumstances...or put a complete blame on other partner...but what more important to realise one's own mistake, that its "ME" who have gone wrong in relationship...& more than important is to make sure not to repeat the mistake...

Tarini, her feelings for Kabir, her thoughts are a different topic to discuss...& as a character, its CVs & writer to mould her in positive or negative light...whatever twist they want to give to the story...but as a character since beginning Kabir had been very clear...that it was never physical attraction, or it wasn't he fell in love with Tarini & they were having extra marital affair & shared intimacy...& they planned out a ONS...
For Kabir, with Tarini it was always a emotional connect, a comfort Kabir found in her, as a friend, as a companion...which he didn't found in Shreya.. as for why he didn't married her...guess, after facing scars of marriage with Shreya, Kabir wasn't ready for another loveless relationship, coz he never had that Love feeling towards Tarini...if he wud have had, he wud long married her...They were consenting adults & also were matured enough to realise that they had been wrong...& taking everything in stride & leading lives ahead...& not letting their one mistake effect the friendship & emotional connect they share...may be, in real life, it cant be as simple & easy as being a fictional show it had been for Kabir Tarini...but as person, emotionally, mentally both wud have been in bigger mess if they didn't had each other's support back then...


Someone had asked me, what's guarantee Kabir wont go astray again, or whats gurantee all these years they didn't go for physical relation again...For that I can say, his realization that it was he who was wrong, & everything was a mistake, him living in guilt ...itself is a guarantee...


Neither Kabir as a character justifies himself, nor Rajeev tries to justifies Kabir...like any other human being Kabir has done mistakes be it mistake of marrying wrong person, not being faithful, & having ONS, or giving an opportunity to Shreya all along to just break him as a person, as individual or not making that one effort to come out of relationship inspite of realising that their marriage is not going anywhere...he has his own list of mistakes.

Can completely agree people / society can be hypocrites... its so easy for people to say, "do logon mein nahi banti, toh just simply get a divorce & part ways & move on"...but its easier said & done... coz when a divorced man/woman again goes in for re marriage or in another relation, same people come & question individual's faith in marriage institution...(Have seen someone really close to me, going through it from past 12-13years & still suffering, life has been really difficult for himhow people have been simply judgmental about him)

If getting married & staying committed is difficult, breaking a relationship, & living with a tag of being "divorced" is more than difficult... its where people's perceptions & prejudices come in... no one goes out to person to ask who went wrong, or reason of divorce, we just perceive...either of husband of wife wud have have been wrong...

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p.s -- thank u for posting the interview 😛😛😛 @Serial_Fan90
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wowww Rajeev n our understanding of kabeer is so similar...love him... the most honest actor ...


so true

Thank God I was npt one of those who questioned this ONS as cheating 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Purnima I so agree with you.
As far as guarantee is concerned, there too we trust him that he will not repeat it, his guilt and love for Ananya will never allow him. He was never connected to Shreya that way so with the circumstances he went out of the way for once.

Ananya has assured him that she will l9ve him more than he hates shreya so there will be at no point he is out of love to wander or think of seeking something outside his marriage.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@purnima - I agree!! The fact that both Kabir n Rajeev describe it as human and not correct is the crux! Both agree it was a mistake but a very plausible one.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I wish the writer/director or whoever was responsible had been kind enough give these explanations in serial in more elaborate way as RK did in this interview to make viewers understand and accept Kabir completely and especially the Tarini's POV tht RK gave.

Whenever I see Tarini on screen with Kabir, it makes me feel the story is left incomplete/insufficient to gratify me as a viewer, as I can't understand or relate to her character anymore or cherish thr fship as respectfully and as open-mindedly as I did before. I have no problem with thr one-time physical relationship. It happens, its human. She was his best friend, his savior in time of need. Bt we understand it was as a serious a matter for her as it was for Kabir which changed the course of their lives permanently. And to not know abt it completely is like eating a whole pie and still left insatiated by it.
I had wished to hear Tarini's pov on this matter in the serial. She being a vital part of the story was very imp character to understand KaYa's story. We know Kabir inside out and can understand him, his complexities, the man he is and was and wat led him to do tht mistake, bt Tarini... Tarini is simply someone who has established herself in Kabir's life permanently perhaps as someone who is more close to Kabir mentally thn Ananya. It is not love, at least not from Kabir's side. Bt her affection, her care is way beyond fship, and anyone can guess tht, though its not stated in clear terms by the writer (reminds me of Rekha-Naseer film Ijazaat based on the theme of pati-patni-and-woh). though I wished he had.
Hence his rship with Tarini still makes many viewers uncomfortable and thy cannot understand Kabir from tht night as clearly as thy shud, bcoz makers jst wanted us to assume a lot of things abt thm, thr rship, positive or negative. The makers shud've made it clear for sake of viewers' complete understanding unless it was thr deliberate intention to leave it to viewers interpretation.😳
Viewers here are still not mature enuf to read betn the lines in such rships, though mature enuf to take it in right sense if explained clearly.😳
What wud've it taken? Jst one dialogue from Tarini in tht post Kabir's confession scene abt his one-time rship with her when Kabir said he was sorry for dragging her name every time his past was discussed? Jst a line tht - "Kabir.. it wasn't jst ur mistake. It was mine too and tht I was equally responsible for whatever happened tht night and for the fate of my and Anuraag's life thereafter. Bt I am happy tht we've come a long way putting it behind us and cherishing our fship as it always had been, but we cannot expect everyone to understand it with same ease, certainly not a daughter's mother u r dating. But let us give aunty some time to come in terms with this fact of your life and I am sure she would understand you and perhaps me too and one day would accept me in thr family, in her daughter's life, and ur life as a true friend."
Bt the way thy dismissed this whole thing so frivolously and took both Ananya and her mom for granted, I cannot fathom want went into writer's head!
Its one thing to have such rships and other to respect other's feelings abt it. Bt its Ananya who cannot see beyond the love of his man. This particular plot was very essential to show the integrity of Kabir's character especially Tarini's which is going to b a permanent fixture in thr lives. With this convenient bomb plot of "Oh-I-can-even-die-for-you" has put this whole issue on backburner. We know Kabir wud do tht. We know Ananya wud do tht too for him if situation arose. This sequence was jst put to convince Ananya's friends and mother abt Kabir's love without needing to dbt him ever in future. Which is not how things work realistically! If Kabir is a fallible person, he shud b given a chance to explain himself, clearly demarcate his love for Ananya and his fship with Tarini putting aside tht one night.
If Ananya feels sad tht she couldn't call Tarini and more importantly Anuraag for thr engagement, I think more thn Kabir the blame is on her and Tarini. She was right in putting behind his past bcoz it wasn't his present bt Tarini does affect her present and future and especially how thy even hope tht her mother wud b able to welcome Tarini with open hands and without any concerns or insecurities in her daughter's life. Anita now understands and trusts Kabir bt how can she blindly trust Tarini if she doesn't clear her POV?
I hope tht this issue is addressed in later epis. Otherwise, Tarini's part wud b hard to digest for me and I wudnt b able to look at this serial with the same admiration and liking as I did before, bcoz for me this story wud b jst so incomplete.
Already I feel tht thrs nothing more left in KaYa's story to explore. Ananya has blindly accepted his past. She hardly dbts his integrity or love, and now after this bomb sequence, no one will ever dbt Kabir's love. So thn what's left in thr story. I don't think any issue can b tht grt tht can separate thm forever henceforth, not even her father's story.
Somehow I m left discontent with the story. I hope it improves in these last epis. While all characters of these serials were unlike anything tht I had seen on Indian TV, I had hoped thy had done equal justice to the story as well!😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: violette

I wish the writer/director or whoever was responsible had been kind enough give these explanations in serial in more elaborate way as RK did in this interview to make viewers understand and accept Kabir completely and especially the Tarini's POV tht RK gave.

Whenever I see Tarini on screen with Kabir, it makes me feel the story is left incomplete/insufficient to gratify me as a viewer, as I can't understand or relate to her character anymore or cherish thr fship as respectfully and as open-mindedly as I did before. I have no problem with thr one-time physical relationship. It happens, its human. She was his best friend, his savior in time of need. Bt we understand it was as a serious a matter for her as it was for Kabir which changed the course of their lives permanently. And to not know abt it completely is like eating a whole pie and still left insatiated by it.
I had wished to hear Tarini's pov on this matter in the serial. She being a vital part of the story was very imp character to understand KaYa's story. We know Kabir inside out and can understand him, his complexities, the man he is and was and wat led him to do tht mistake, bt Tarini... Tarini is simply someone who has established herself in Kabir's life permanently perhaps as someone who is more close to Kabir mentally thn Ananya. It is not love, at least not from Kabir's side. Bt her affection, her care is way beyond fship, and anyone can guess tht, though its not stated in clear terms by the writer (reminds me of Rekha-Naseer film Ijazaat based on the theme of pati-patni-and-woh). though I wished he had.
Hence his rship with Tarini still makes many viewers uncomfortable and thy cannot understand Kabir from tht night as clearly as thy shud, bcoz makers jst wanted us to assume a lot of things abt thm, thr rship, positive or negative. The makers shud've made it clear for sake of viewers' complete understanding unless it was thr deliberate intention to leave it to viewers interpretation.😳
Viewers here are still not mature enuf to read betn the lines in such rships, though mature enuf to take it in right sense if explained clearly.😳
What wud've it taken? Jst one dialogue from Tarini in tht post Kabir's confession scene abt his one-time rship with her when Kabir said he was sorry for dragging her name every time his past was discussed? Jst a line tht - "Kabir.. it wasn't jst ur mistake. It was mine too and tht I was equally responsible for whatever happened tht night and for the fate of my and Anuraag's life thereafter. Bt I am happy tht we've come a long way putting it behind us and cherishing our fship as it always had been, but we cannot expect everyone to understand it with same ease, certainly not a daughter's mother u r dating. But let us give aunty some time to come in terms with this fact of your life and I am sure she would understand you and perhaps me too and one day would accept me in thr family, in her daughter's life, and ur life as a true friend."
Bt the way thy dismissed this whole thing so frivolously and took both Ananya and her mom for granted, I cannot fathom want went into writer's head!
Its one thing to have such rships and other to respect other's feelings abt it. Bt its Ananya who cannot see beyond the love of his man. This particular plot was very essential to show the integrity of Kabir's character especially Tarini's which is going to b a permanent fixture in thr lives. With this convenient bomb plot of "Oh-I-can-even-die-for-you" has put this whole issue on backburner. We know Kabir wud do tht. We know Ananya wud do tht too for him if situation arose. This sequence was jst put to convince Ananya's friends and mother abt Kabir's love without needing to dbt him ever in future. Which is not how things work realistically! If Kabir is a fallible person, he shud b given a chance to explain himself, clearly demarcate his love for Ananya and his fship with Tarini putting aside tht one night.
If Ananya feels sad tht she couldn't call Tarini and more importantly Anuraag for thr engagement, I think more thn Kabir the blame is on her and Tarini. She was right in putting behind his past bcoz it wasn't his present bt Tarini does affect her present and future and especially how thy even hope tht her mother wud b able to welcome Tarini with open hands and without any concerns or insecurities in her daughter's life. Anita now understands and trusts Kabir bt how can she blindly trust Tarini if she doesn't clear her POV?
I hope tht this issue is addressed in later epis. Otherwise, her part wud b hard to digest for me and I wudnt b able to look at this serial with the same admiration and liking as I did before, bcoz for me this story wud b jst so incomplete.
Already I feel tht thrs nothing more left in KaYa's story to explore. Ananya has blindly accepted his past. She hardly dbt his integrity or love, and now after this bomb sequence, no one will ever dbt Kabir's love. So thn what's left in thr story. I don't think any issue can b tht grt tht can separate thm forever.
Somehow I m left discontent with the story. I hope it improves in these last epis. While all characters of these serials were unlike anything tht I had seen on Indian TV, I had hoped thy had done equal justice with the story as well!😳


I am sure they will... Have faith in writers and they know the bigger and a better picture.

I am saying this because its a diff show and makers know what their viewers expect from them. Only 27 episodes left and every open ended theory will be closed piece by piece in every episode something will come out and other thing will get a closure.

We have seen this show for past 103 episodes and it kept surprising us with its making. I am really hoping it manages to change our disappointments regarding some tracks will change into pisitive and help us understand them in diff light.

Lets enjoy the remaining ones :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shweta13

I am sure they will... Have faith in writers and they know the bigger and a better picture.

I am saying this because its a diff show and makers know what their viewers expect from them. Only 27 episodes left and every open ended theory will be closed piece by piece in every episode something will come out and other thing will get a closure.

We have seen this show for past 103 episodes and it kept surprising us with its making. I am really hoping it manages to change our disappointments regarding some tracks will change into pisitive and help us understand them in diff light.

Lets enjoy the remaining ones :)

Well I am not sure abt the fate of this story.
If u had observed, I had always been very positive abt this story and serial bt thn thy completely went off track from the main storyline.. thy neither did complete justice to the "love" story part nor to the "news" story part. Thts wat I feel looking back at those 103 epis.
Frankly thrs lot in this story tht maker's want us to believe on basis of love thn logic.😆 Bt thr has to b some logic behind tht love too.. some passion for those actions. How easily Kabir explained us why he fell in love with Ananya bt with Ananya, I still don't understand what was her reason to fall in love with him, was it her blind hero worshipping? Was it his role in her father's case? Was it his strange personality? Or was it tht truthfulness and integrity tht she saw in him in spite of his obvious image of being a manipulator, schemer, a womanizer and tht glaring truth abt his close rship with Tarini? It was a complex love story and I wished it had been handled with same complexity and yet some clarity and not left to viewers different (and sometimes opposing) interpretations abt Ananya's and Kabir's certain actions!😳😆
I jst hate to assume a lot of things abt a love story and its left to such varied and different interpretations, which is not good if you want to put across a definitive point abt your story.😳
Chalo lets hope this story improves. Right now more thn thr love story I m interested in those mystery plots surrounding thm.😆 Lets hope its worth the remaining epis wait!
I am putting my sceptical glasses aside, bt makers really need to give me something tht wud make me remember this serial with same fondness!
If you have read my earlier posts, you would have known tht I was one of the most optimistic and hopeful viewer of this serial and had great faith on the writer back then.😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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^ Nice interview by Rajeev! :P
Tfs! :)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@ violette-- indeed second you, there are certain things which are still loose ends, which need to get a closure for better understanding of characters...hopefully by end all loose ends will be tied by the writer.😊😊

😆 Ananya falling in love with Kabir...is still a big question for me...i so wish it had been Kabir who had asked her on date... like she asked ..."why Me?"...
Its not like she was always in love with him 😆😆 as a fangirl there was always appreciation for Kabir's work that too, as he supported her father, but she never had those love wali feelings...& to add on, Kabir is not a kind of character one wud instantly fall in love...all along she had trust issues with him, He didn't even had a image of good boy 😆😆 he was being seen as womanizer, she had seen him flirting ...
What exactly made her fall in love with Kabir 😕😆...but then, "pyaar mein logic nahi chalta😆😆😆


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -purnima-

@ violette-- indeed second you, there are certain things which are still loose ends, which need to get a closure for better understanding of characters...hopefully by end all loose ends will be tied by the writer.😊😊

😆 Ananya falling in love with Kabir...is still a big question for me...i so wish it had been Kabir who had asked her on date... like she asked ..."why Me?"...
Its not like she was always in love with him 😆😆 as a fangirl there was always appreciation for Kabir's work that too, as he supported her father, but she never had those love wali feelings...& to add on, Kabir is not a kind of character one wud instantly fall in love...all along she had trust issues with him, He didn't even had a image of good boy😆😆 he was being seen as womanizer, she had seen him flirting ...
What exactly made her fall in love with Kabir 😕😆...but then, "pyaar mein logic nahi chalta😆😆😆





Well itni hot shakal ho to kya chahiye 😃 . On a serious note, we always saw her being superly affected by him and caring for his good opinion, a smile or a kind word. I agree it should have been better depicted, but I think her feelings became true love after she started dating him. It's the same in real life na, u start dating a person u like or are attracted to and then explore waters. I think in exploring those waters Ananya fell for him when she actually saw his real self. But I agree needed a lot more clarification.

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