My thoughts on last few episodes..

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Posted: 10 years ago
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I had a marathon watch of all the episodes I missed watching and here are my observations..

The pic shared by the actor playing Sunny makes me think Baby might have certain terrorist links, otherwise my opinion is that she is innocent of terrorist links, but her motive for joining KKN might come out during this track. There is still a possibility of she being Shreya's spy and Shreya observing Kabir - Ananya talking after Baby left them strengthens my this feeling. And I am hoping that Kabir is not blindly trusting Baby, but has someone following her (which would expose her connections, terrorist or otherwise). I wish & hope Kabir's new found positivity doesn't extend to trusting all and sundry ;)

The scenes I liked most in these few episodes, the two Kabir - Shreya scenes, both were excellently performed. Kabir did seem to have clear cut understanding of Shreya's intentions, but does he know that she wants him back? Or he thinks she wants to spoil his life again? This question brought me back a scene from the time of Shreya's entry, when Kabir confronted Shreya after the call from KKN, Shreya mockingly told him that she is back for him, Kabir had a change of expression when she made that statement, which clearly indicated that this is what he was worried about. Remembering that scene made me wonder whether Kabir does have an idea about Shreya's obsession of him.. His taunts to her, are they his way of bringing out the real Shreya out? Or am I dreaming about the old 'astute' Kabir who is somewhere lost in Ananya's positivity? ;)

There are too many unanswered questions in this track.. How did Anita get convinced by Kabir is the major one of them? I don't believe any mother can give her whole hearted consent just because that's what why daughter wants.. I do think Kabir had shared with her about his version of the past,. But why there is no indication of it by the makers? Di they want to keep us guessing about any future troubles due to this? The look Anita gave to Shreya dyeing the proposal kind of indicated that she now know both the versions. Even if Anita does know Kabir's version, isn't she worried about Tarini's presence in Kabir's life? That should be the biggest concern for any mom, because that is Kabir's present, everything else can be ignored because they are in his past,. And why Ananya- Tarini meet has not happened yet? Again to keep us guessing?

The hyped sting op.. Ok, it wasn't really a serious operation, but it was better than the arm dealer one ;) , because here the makers kept it simple enough to not to expose their shortcomings ;). And Kabir successfully fulfilled his personal mission, that was one very cute scene.

Tarini choosing the engagement ring, makes me think the makers are purposely shown this to highlight Tarini's importance in Kabir's life. There is still something left of the past, from Tarini's side, hope it is worthy enough of this long wait ;)

The proposal was a very sweet one, certainly not the best Kaya scene, that's ok, can't have a better one with so many audience around, and I liked the fact that they kept is simple because we had too many emotionally intense scenes between the couple.. I felt proposal wasn't a milestone in their relationship, because they are already together in their hearts of the hearts, it's significance is because of Anita's acceptance.

The dinner scene and KaYa scenes at kashyap house was again sweet ones, guess the makers at this moment are focussing more on the professional side of the relationship, which I find it as refreshing,

Ankita as Shreya was excellent during the proposal and then with Kabir, every emotion the character went through was crystal clear in her facial expression, but I am disappointed with the pshyco act, it looked too OTT to me.. And I am certainly disappointed with the way the character turned, in wanting Kabir back, it would have made more sense if she wanted to destroy him.. Whatever narcissistic traits the character displays, it makes her look stupid to think that Kabir would turn to her even if Ananya dumps him.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree too many loop holes. ..lot of unanswered questions
I seem to miss the astute kabir sharma...too much importance given to the proposal
i agree that the cases n sting op has lost its zing n romanch...hopefully the creative team thinks through

I almost laughed at khurana while he talked to kabir about not getting hold of the suspect at dhaba...looked like khurana is the only cop left in city n had only kabir n ananya to help him...he looked as if he could cry anytime. ..
khurana not questioning baby is ridiculous. ...in any case he should be...kabir is eic of a news channel n not a cop

everything is getting mushy too romantic. ..n add to that shreya just wants kabir back...I mean come on...even if ananya dumps him...why on earth he would consider going back to her...what is this woman thinking or mayb not thinking at all

somewhere I read that the flow of story is not that good...which makes sense. ...too many tracks happening n none are concluded well..m


I think it happens coz of 5 episodes a week...n the constant pressure to come up with something new...for a season f2f ormat ...this show should be aired only 1-2 a week withv total episodes not more than 40 or so...then it could be very crisp

currently the show is losing it edge...n going no where. ...its like 130 episodes tak kuch to dikhana banta hai...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: tvpankha

I agree too many loop holes. ..lot of unanswered questions

I seem to miss the astute kabir sharma...too much importance given to the proposal
i agree that the cases n sting op has lost its zing n romanch...hopefully the creative team thinks through

I almost laughed at khurana while he talked to kabir about not getting hold of the suspect at dhaba...looked like khurana is the only cop left in city n had only kabir n ananya to help him...he looked as if he could cry anytime. ..
khurana not questioning baby is ridiculous. ...in any case he should be...kabir is eic of a news channel n not a cop

everything is getting mushy too romantic. ..n add to that shreya just wants kabir back...I mean come on...even if ananya dumps him...why on earth he would consider going back to her...what is this woman thinking or mayb not thinking at all

somewhere I read that the flow of story is not that good...which makes sense. ...too many tracks happening n none are concluded well..m


I think it happens coz of 5 episodes a week...n the constant pressure to come up with something new...for a season f2f ormat ...this show should be aired only 1-2 a week withv total episodes not more than 40 or so...then it could be very crisp

currently the show is losing it edge...n going no where. ...its like 130 episodes tak kuch to dikhana banta hai...


I think they are changing the focus back to news stories and professional rivalries, last 2 episodes had less of romance.

It is obvious from the very beginning that this new lead is about some terrorist attack planning, I found it funny to see the way Khurana made it sound as if they just got to know the guys were planning to bomb the city, and Kabir's reaction was equally strange. The only new info they have is about human bomb.
Edited by Geetha_R - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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hi Geetha, good to have you back
I was very impressed with ankita in the proposal scene, true indication of a good actress is they can get the emotions across with the slightest expressions. Even the dialogues between her and kabir was really good. My favourite part was that shot if shreya walking up the stairs, it gave me chills


there has been an interesting theory brought forth by Purnima. she basically guessed that shreya's actions throughout their marriage was because she wanted to isolate kabir from everything and everyone he loved so he can completely surrender to her. it stems from her obsessive streak and her words "no one can love you more than me" points to that as well. otherwise why would she want a man who she never loved an all of a sudden we are supposed to believe she can love him more than anyone? maybe it's because kabir is everything she wanted in a man, he is just more attractive to her now.


meanwhile, Today's episode made me uneasy. Shreya and Manav teaming up does not bode well, it is a tried and tested formula from a K-serial and I think Reporters has done every well without the Typical Vamp. maybe they will balance out shreya's drama with the new terrorist track but I'm not really interested in seeing her plotting in the last stretch. I hope CV's know what they are doing.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Geetha. I've been disillusioned ever since the revelation of Shreya's true face hence not been posting much. Still been watching though.
But I'm just not able to wrap my mind around these loopholes some of them holes in the story and others just my personal opinion, but ones I feel could have been handled differently

1. The whole Anita giving Kabir the ultimatum to get engaged to Ananya and he promptly doing so. It feels like their relationship is forced. I mean that Kabir and Ananya should have gotten engaged because they were both ready and wanted it and not because Anita or anyone was holding a sword over their heads and making them do it. Not saying Anita did precisely that, her plan of finding a means to make Kabir withdraw backfired, but it still leaves me with a vague feeling of discontent that the engagement was someone else's idea and not their own.

2. Ditto for the proposal. Everything looked choreographed and not natural (except for Ananya's reaction). It wasn't heartfelt. And I disagree that the proposal wasn't important. After the confession, I think it should have been the most important moment in their life as a couple. But it wasn't. It was forced, unnatural and the thing that got to me the most was that everyone knew but Ananya. It may be a romantic gesture to some but not to me.

3. Shreya's character: I have said enough about this. Don't want to say more and rain on anyone's parade. Whatever signs there may have been of Shreya being a narcissist or whatever she is right from the beginning, I still feel that as a writer you are finally responsible for how you present your character. My only question is whether it was necessary to paint Shreya as this completely OTT character who will stop at nothing to get Kabir back into her life just so that the viewer's sympathies are completely with the heroes (in this case Kabir and Ananya)?? Did they want that whatever little backlash Kabir may have faced or whatever little he may have been judged by some sections of the audience should also be completely wiped out and he should emerge as this pure, unblemished person? Is this why they even made Anita completely overlook his wrongdoings and accept him with open arms? And today they tried to tell us Shreya "used" the ONS as an excuse to "dump" Kabir! Really?

4. Anita's whole-hearted acceptance of Kabir. He may have gone over to her place and convinced her or told her his side of the story, but how is she so willing to accept his version suddenly when she was not even ready to ask him earlier? She actually went to Shreya to hear of their past and left her place with her sympathies lying entirely with her! Then how was Kabir able to convince her and why were we not shown it? Is it that she agreed just for her daughter's happiness? *scoffs*

5. The Baby track. This was sooo all-important yesterday with Kabir giving her a task to do and yet today we see no mention of it? Its baffling! And today we had the shifty-eyed peon of KKN! Wheels within wheels! I'm afraid they're not going to close any track satisfactorily and leave a lot of loose ends with only 35 episodes to go. Unless they intend to leave them open for a season 2.

6. Taarini and Kabir: It is hard for us as audience to understand the importance of Taarini's presence in Kabir's life, so much so that Kabir got her to choose the ring! (This still irks me!) How does Anita or even Ananya understand? How is Kabir even able to maintain a healthy relationship with her despite the burden of guilt he obviously carries? And like you said, why is she not even in the picture? Why hasn't she met with Ananya or Anita? How can she remain happily nonchalant and unconcerned when a sordid truth about her past is being dissected and discussed by so many people? How does she not show the slightest bit of discomfort that now everyone knows the truth about her and Kabir? Its unreal.

7. And now they introduce another complication in the form of Monu. Don't know what Kabir did or didn't do to Monu that has affected his relationship with his bhabhi, but whatever it is, I'm sure it will be overlooked cause hasn't his brother already forgiven him? So his bhabhi is obviously overreacting! In fact, whenever Kabir or Ananya have gone wrong its usually someone else's fault. isn't it? How convenient!

I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate and jootas and chappals for this post, but my dissatisfaction was just waiting to come out! Sorry to use your thread for it!
Edited by LizzieBennett - 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: LizzieBennett

Hi Geetha. I've been disillusioned ever since the revelation of Shreya's true face hence not been posting much. Still been watching though.

But I'm just not able to wrap my mind around these loopholes some of them holes in the story and others just my personal opinion, but ones I feel could have been handled differently

1. The whole Anita giving Kabir the ultimatum to get engaged to Ananya and he promptly doing so. It feels like their relationship is forced. I mean that Kabir and Ananya should have gotten engaged because they were both ready and wanted it and not because Anita or anyone was holding a sword over their heads and making them do it. Not saying Anita did precisely that, her plan of finding a means to make Kabir withdraw backfired, but it still leaves me with a vague feeling of discontent that the engagement was someone else's idea and not their own.

2. Ditto for the proposal. Everything looked choreographed and not natural (except for Ananya's reaction). It wasn't heartfelt. And I disagree that the proposal wasn't important. After the confession, I think it should have been the most important moment in their life as a couple. But it wasn't. It was forced, unnatural and the thing that got to me the most was that everyone knew but Ananya. It may be a romantic gesture to some but not to me.

3. Shreya's character: I have said enough about this. Don't want to say more and rain on anyone's parade. Whatever signs there may have been of Shreya being a narcissist or whatever she is right from the beginning, I still feel that as a writer you are finally responsible for how you present your character. My only question is whether it was necessary to paint Shreya as this completely OTT character who will stop at nothing to get Kabir back into her life just so that the viewer's sympathies are completely with the heroes (in this case Kabir and Ananya)?? Did they want that whatever little backlash Kabir may have faced or whatever little he may have been judged by some sections of the audience should also be completely wiped out and he should emerge as this pure, unblemished person? Is this why they even made Anita completely overlook his wrongdoings and accept him with open arms? And today they tried to tell us Shreya "used" the ONS as an excuse to "dump" Kabir! Really?

4. Anita's whole-hearted acceptance of Kabir. He may have gone over to her place and convinced her or told her his side of the story, but how is she so willing to accept his version suddenly when she was not even ready to ask him earlier? She actually went to Shreya to hear of their past and left her place with her sympathies lying entirely with her! Then how was Kabir able to convince her and why were we not shown it? Is it that she agreed just for her daughter's happiness? *scoffs*

5. The Baby track. This was sooo all-important yesterday with Kabir giving her a task to do and yet today we see no mention of it? Its baffling! And today we had the shifty-eyed peon of KKN! Wheels within wheels! I'm afraid they're not going to close any track satisfactorily and leave a lot of loose ends with only 35 episodes to go. Unless they intend to leave them open for a season 2.

6. Taarini and Kabir: It is hard for us as audience to understand the importance of Taarini's presence in Kabir's life, so much so that Kabir got her to choose the ring! (This still irks me!) How does Anita or even Ananya understand? How is Kabir even able to maintain a healthy relationship with her despite the burden of guilt he obviously carries? And like you said, why is she not even in the picture? Why hasn't she met with Ananya or Anita? How can she remain happily nonchalant and unconcerned when a sordid truth about her past is being dissected and discussed by so many people? How does she not show the slightest bit of discomfort that now everyone knows the truth about her and Kabir? Its unreal.

7. And now they introduce another complication in the form of Monu. Don't know what Kabir did or didn't do to Monu that has affected his relationship with his bhabhi, but whatever it is, I'm sure it will be overlooked cause hasn't his brother already forgiven him? So his bhabhi is obviously overreacting! In fact, whenever Kabir or Ananya have gone wrong its usually someone else's fault. isn't it? How convenient!

I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate and jootas and chappals for this post, but my dissatisfaction was just waiting to come out! Sorry to use your thread for it!

Lizzie
I expressed same discontent in my other post earlier this evening! Too many loop holes and Kabir acting so strange.. cant even relate to him or to Anita or Tarini or even Shreya!
Also the every fact tht Kabir-Tarini got engaged into a physical relationship even for a night meant tht thy did share something beyond friendship. Hence it become much more vital for Ananya to know Tarini and her importance in his life. She is surely going to feel more insecure abt her thn Shreya. Bt thn why the mother daughter want to turn blind eye to this very fact! Also neither Kabir nor Tarini find it important enuf to discuss with the Kashyaps. Really a glaring error in the plot!
From today its clear Anita did not ask abt Tarini hence she will not get the invite. But may b Ananya mata will go ahead and invite her sauten no. 2 along with sauten no. 1. to create all the more drama on thr engagement day! Boy do thy need any more fireworks!😆
I really got disinterested in the show post his confession of past and the way Kabir-Tarini took it, as if it was jst another day, jst another issue to discuss and shrug it off!😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Good to have you back Geetha
Yes the proposal as all pointed out was a kinda forced one...somehow something is amiss since the time of the revelation...hope the makers look into this and make it more realistic...now Shreya's character though as we all guessed is turning out to be a total negative vampish one and ridiculous the business head is out to ruin her own channel for her own personal interests...

But I would not give up on the show still as I love watching Kabir and Ananya...good to see Kabir has still the same attitude and arrogance when it comes to his EIC post..Ananya's chirpy self...Rajeev's presence...his charisma and Kritika too and the rest of the actors still makes it worth watching...but I only hope they don't ruin the story further...
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Originally posted by: ...Lata...

Good to have you back Geetha

Yes the proposal as all pointed out was a kinda forced one...somehow something is amiss since the time of the revelation...hope the makers look into this and make it more realistic...now Shreya's character though as we all guessed is turning out to be a total negative vampish one and ridiculous the business head is out to ruin her own channel for her own personal interests...

But I would not give up on the show still as I love watching Kabir and Ananya...good to see Kabir has still the same attitude and arrogance when it comes to his EIC post..Ananya's chirpy self...Rajeev's presence...his charisma and Kritika too and the rest of the actors still makes it worth watching...but I only hope they don't ruin the story further...


Thank you Lata, Yes, Proposal wasn't really romantic, but the other scenes between the leads were good..

I am resigned to the fact that we are not getting a realistic and relatable ex wife for a while now. Atleast today's epaiode gave some logical explation on why she wants him back..

I so badly wanted a serious Kabir who is focused on his job, glad we got him back today.
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Originally posted by: LizzieBennett

I've been disillusioned ever since the revelation of Shreya's true face hence not been posting much. Still been watching though.


3. Shreya's character: I have said enough about this. Don't want to say more and rain on anyone's parade. Whatever signs there may have been of Shreya being a narcissist or whatever she is right from the beginning, I still feel that as a writer you are finally responsible for how you present your character. My only question is whether it was necessary to paint Shreya as this completely OTT character who will stop at nothing to get Kabir back into her life just so that the viewer's sympathies are completely with the heroes (in this case Kabir and Ananya)?? Did they want that whatever little backlash Kabir may have faced or whatever little he may have been judged by some sections of the audience should also be completely wiped out and he should emerge as this pure, unblemished person? Is this why they even made Anita completely overlook his wrongdoings and accept him with open arms? And today they tried to tell us Shreya "used" the ONS as an excuse to "dump" Kabir! Really?

4. Anita's whole-hearted acceptance of Kabir. He may have gone over to her place and convinced her or told her his side of the story, but how is she so willing to accept his version suddenly when she was not even ready to ask him earlier? She actually went to Shreya to hear of their past and left her place with her sympathies lying entirely with her! Then how was Kabir able to convince her and why were we not shown it? Is it that she agreed just for her daughter's happiness? *scoffs*

6. Taarini and Kabir: It is hard for us as audience to understand the importance of Taarini's presence in Kabir's life, so much so that Kabir got her to choose the ring! (This still irks me!) How does Anita or even Ananya understand? How is Kabir even able to maintain a healthy relationship with her despite the burden of guilt he obviously carries? And like you said, why is she not even in the picture? Why hasn't she met with Ananya or Anita? How can she remain happily nonchalant and unconcerned when a sordid truth about her past is being dissected and discussed by so many people? How does she not show the slightest bit of discomfort that now everyone knows the truth about her and Kabir? Its unreal.

7. And now they introduce another complication in the form of Monu. Don't know what Kabir did or didn't do to Monu that has affected his relationship with his bhabhi, but whatever it is, I'm sure it will be overlooked cause hasn't his brother already forgiven him? So his bhabhi is obviously overreacting! In fact, whenever Kabir or Ananya have gone wrong its usually someone else's fault. isn't it? How convenient!

Bang on Liz!! Ok, so I agree with you on some fronts (quoted above). After the so called major twist, I have been so disappointed that I am not looking forward to watch the episodes..(And I am angry at myself for this I feel I am doing some ghaddari towards Reporters😆) I cant believe I found myself looking forward to watching a 'supernatural' show on Zee than the more logical Reporters 😕😆😆 I had read a post abt narcissism personality by Koyel..and I get it. Ok, Shreya is a narcissist. But it doesn't explain the OTT behavior. Oh come on, it seems she came from the mental asylumDuring the proposal, Ankita did the part so well..even till climbing the stairs..But in the room, that was a let down for me - by the actor & director. The same "psychotic" behaviour could have been shown in a more subdued manner...than the usual throwing stuff!!🥱 Jeez, I so wanted Anita & Kabir encounter before the proposal..Was expecting a flashback at least.😕 I could relate to Anita going hyper & giving an ultimatum to Ananya to choose between the two. I don't buy into the whole "giving in to Ananya's happiness". I have had this complaint against Kabir from the start..It was his responsibility to put all the cards on the table. You cant ask sumone to simply trust you without explaining urself!! I feel if they had shown yesterday's Anita-Kabir scene as a flashback, I wouldn't have been this disappointed!!! Coming to the most important Tarini angle- even after knowing Tarini still plays an integral role in his role, Ananya or her mother haven't shown any interest in knowing further (or even meeting Tarini)😕...Speaking of which, they haven't asked anything abt his family!!!This is one major flaw I see in the storytelling..Just for the sake of bringing in a dhamaka, they are dragging crucial stuff. So I don't find Tarini-Kabir friendship weird (even if they really crossed the limits)..I have witnessed the same in real life too. I had really enjoyed the twist that Kabir had a ONS with Tarini...But now it seems as if it was the vamp's doing.Sighhh...placing the hero on the pedestal again.Everything is the vamp's faults🤢🥱
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Great analysis as always !!!
I agree with most of your points. Specially the one about the proposal ! It was more about "officialising" or "formalising" their relationship in the presence of their well wishers and not so well wishers ;) A way to make a statement ! Kabir's way to show the world that "Don't mess with us " and if you do, this is what you are going to get back ! I don't think, after that heartfelt, soul-stirring confession anything else can hold parallel importance ! For me that was the ultimate !
About the Kabir Tarini equation.. Well it is still under wraps! And speculations don't help in this show. So I would keep quiet.
About Baby ! I am GLAD that finally the CVs gave a reason for alloting so much of screen space to this seemingly unimportant character! I hope some serious action is coming up ! Atleast something close to the Baaghi track..
Now the point about which I would differ a bit in opinion.. I don't think Anita has accepted Kabir "wholeheartedly" yet ! She's still in two minds ! The fact that she had put Kabir to test and Kabir passed it with flying colors has definitely mellowed down her reaction.. But she is still unsure ! Remember during the proposal she said, " Kabir ki baaton ka main vishwas karna chahungi".. Its like, you dare not lie ! Again, yesterday, during the Kabir- Anita convo, she said for her Ananya's happiness matters the most ! She never said that she's totally convinced about Kabir! And, Kabir himself is well aware of the fact that its not rocket science, it is a process ! He said, "Main imtihaan dene ke liye taiyyar hoon". He definitely realizes that this engagement issue was an imtihaan and there will be many more in future.. Its not an open and shut case !
Here, I also feel, Kabir directly trying to clarify things or narrating his version of the past would not be of much help ! The very fact, that Mrs. Kashyap has heard Shreya's version of the past already would make Kabir's clarifications sound as mere justifications. And Mrs. Kashyap had made it very clear to her daughter that no justification in this world can justify an act of adultery ! Considering her position, the generation gap and her level of exposure, I do not consider it to be wrong ! So, Kabir's acceptance into the family will be gradual. Although having him call her Maa, was a polite and affectionate gesture ! This shows that she really wants to trust the goodness of the man, who stands before her.
Coming to Ms. Bhagat ! I sooo wish her character had been portrayed in a different light. But I was kinda expecting this ! Although at certain points, I found her behaviour as OTT but can somehow relate to her. When she met Kabir and they got married, she had a budding career, a lot of goals to achieve, a social stature to be attained, many ambitions to be fulfilled in her life to whiich got attached the name of successful, unrelenting, dashing "Reporter of the year" Kabir Sharma. She enjoyed the privilege of having a "Trophy" husband but that was it. She never felt the "emotional" requirement of Kabir Sharma in her life! Just as she had her own ambitions soaring high, she wanted Kabir to grow too, according to her standards. That didnt happen and thats what gave rise to the constant taunts and episodes of public humiliation. Kabir reacted adversely, gave in to alcohol, let his career suffer and that further caused Shreya to want to do away with him ! As far as the ONS is concerned ( if it ever happened ), Shreya knows and realizes it deep inside that she is also one of the parties to be blamed for it !
But noow the tables have turned ! Professionally, Shreya is a complete woman ! It is only now that the emptiness of her personal life haunts her. (Remember her looks while she was staring at Kabir and her photograph). Yes! She was a socialite, she may still be.. But after a certain stage in life, every person wants to have something or someone to return home for ! Someone who's exclusively theirs. And I feel, this is where her sudden urge to get Kabir back, comes from ! And why not? She had once loved that man ( atleast she feels so ), he's all that she had ever wanted him to be.. For me its a culmination of her egoist obsessive streak as well as her strong urgency to feel loved and wanted by someone.
And this is how, I guess, they are going to save Shreya's character from becoming a typical vamp ! Although this planning and plotting will continue... After all, politics chahe desh ki ho, kitchen ki ya office ki, pattern remains the same ! ;)

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