Sushpective: WOW!! You have done it!! Updates pg33-34 - Page 28

Hey girls, looks like the thread is very active today, if you love poetry, here's a nice post by one Mansilovesarshi, i guess new one here on this forum.
She made a poetic post on Paro and Rudra on the latest scenario. Nice read, here's the link for Paro's post. Will find the one for Rudra inside this post.
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4028069

Malini

Originally posted by: --POV--

usually I am a silent reader, I am amazed by the intelligence displayed by many and at the same time shocked by the virulence too.

Since I am amazed and just loved your posts, I finally decided to pen down my thoughts. its difficult to put down in words the thoughts running in my head.

As my UN suggests, its just my POV -- not written on stone but written on sand 😆 and I believe people react to situations differently and what is right for me could be wrong for you.

As a woman, I sympathize with both Paro and Laila. I think the physical aspect though nauseating would not be what will shock me but the utter callousness of the very relationship. She was a crutch to him but the treatment, did she deserve it ?

Today when Rudra allowed the hug, I felt somewhere he finally understood Laila's stand. Until he can understand Laila and move forward, how can he give his total self to Paro. Denial of any feeling in their benaam rishta is false isnt it? It is convenience, dependence whatever, but you got to respect a woman who was willing to take whatever you gave her without compliant. How many of us would have taken such a relation? Does it make her lesser human? No way! What went wrong was that like someone said he helped her with her demons. She did not push his boundaries because both of them were burning in similar fire. She too could have been abandoned or sold betrayed by her own? I see a parallel between her and Nandhini.

With the way laila behaved with Paro, I feel its within character. She burnt Paro during the haldi ceremony, she burnt her eyes, she burnt the sabzi. Like Laila keeps telling, she is fire, so she burns. Why does she hurt Paro. Because when she hurts Paro, she hurts Rudra. what affects Rudra the most - Paro. And do you remember doing the haldi sequence she says that Paro has the same effect that his mom has on him. The same tadap. So if Paro moves out of his life, wouldnt he go back to his crutch for solace. Please remember she is not educated or brought up in cities like us to have classy behavior. She has lived a nomad's life and behaves the same way. Her excessive behavior is just that - she has always lived on her ada and tumkas. Her pretending to be an innocent woman is to insinuate into Paro's heart. How can she convince Paro she is genuine and meant to be with Rudra? If she shows her true colors, will Paro accept her? We always think based on our perception (like Paro said). Laila did not think she deserved a marriage with Rudra, so she never forced his hand and was fine when he said he ddnt believe in that institution. So Paro will only accept her if she is sanskari, right? And she has seen him sleeping with his wife - He did not sleep with Laila( the whole night). Initially, he used to refuse to share his bed with Paro too but Laila does not know that.

Though the actor overacts, that is Laila for you. She is all around the place. And she comes across weak and pathetic in front of the others cos she is the 3rd wheel. Kakisa is no 3rd wheel. She is just a canon like Rudra 😆. She cannot overpower the others by her looks or behavior. She should be a contrast to Parud and that is what is being depicted here. I feel the execution could have been better. Though I hated the bangle and sindoor scene, for me it was just her way of taking what she wants. She has learnt the hard way, you have to grab what you want. no one will give anything for free. And she believes she is irresistible and desirable because she knows how to make a man happy. Hasnt she been able to keep Rudra with her for 8 years? When she follows him, though he warns her, he has used her. So his actions and words have always been different. So like laila asked what went wrong in her love that he chose another. isnt that a valid question?

Laila is fire to his fire but Paro is the rain to to his desert. Rain can soothe or sting too. Fire, it can warm or burn. So when Laila was justifying herself, I felt Rudra wanted Paro to talk. He had said everything to her, now it was her turn to turn to him.

Just read my post and it feels like I dont like Rudra. I love Parud, both Paro and Rudra. One is incomplete without the other. Just like the title song says. he has molded Paro; now its her turn 😳

About the hug and wrist holding, dont I ddnt like it, that is Rudra for you. He hurt her for hurting his wife. Simple. The hug, when she was talking, he was thinking about Paro. Even when he came out of coma, its Paro. And please remember he too is emotionally down. He is not there physically, he has closed his mind to Laila. Even when Paro came, he looks at her with hope, fear and a need for acceptance. Will she be his rashak or bhakshak? Only time will say

Like SRK says, Picture abhi baaki hai mere dost. So lets wait for the whole scene to play out.

Just wanted to say...I loved reading through all the pages on this thread and I read through all of them at one go!

Originally posted by: neet2407

Wow Sush and gang - great posts! Love the long essays and the anachronism Tennesseanand ultimaterudra today, as well as Zee, sofna, vanitha, habs, Hope, jeesie, Jaz, msin, Rupunzale, Barunsanaya, nema, suhana, samirao, malini, malsub, nams, ashwink, malkasub, Leesam ,Sanayaisbest, lara, ttt1, arsha, shami, pov - forgive me if i missed anyone off !

Mind you wonderful episodes deserve wonderful posts.

-I have been having issues with Colors UK as they seem to have given up on subtitles for the last week so I always have to wait for the internet or 4am versions! Here are my thoughts - some taken from other threads.

Anyway on from my woes to Parud's woes - wonderful episode and wonderfully written ( even my Dad said so!) Outpouring of emotions at first from Rudra then from Paro and then both - Paro has such a strong faith in her own love for Rudra that very little can shake it - so all of Mohini's scheming and Rudra's anger have had little effect on her - the two things that matter to her are Rudra and her faith in God- She pointed out in an earlier episode Parud's relationship is not mutual love just yet - yet she so clearly believes in the sanctity of marriage.

Her faith in Bholenath and her promise to him has already been seen, and as we wait for the outcome of that and we get the second shake to her two strong pillars of faith - this time in the form of Rudra himself and his past particularly with someone else in her place. And you thought that standing in the rain for 4 hours was difficult Paro - these are your real tests!!!

As you rightly said - she was not even sure what she meant to him but had seen positive signs to go forward, but this is a massive jolt the other way - he even admitted Laila and him shared something Paro and him did not so in a strange way she already has more of Rudra than Paro has (she has no direct proof about what Rudra actually feels for her). I do think the words Rudra said about sharing something with Laila that he and Paro do not have was very significant in Paro's eyes - seriosuly where does that leave her and their relationship - even though he said Laila means nothing to him, he never said Paro means anything to him either. Were all the signs she picked up from him about his concern even real?

The marriage too - did she force it on him? these and a hundred questions must be milling in her brain - yet she has no strength to ask the questions and listen to the answers just yet so she becomes silent and lets the pain wash over her - she can't cut off completely though and she will always care for him just as she always has and dries his hair as he can't, she just can't look him in the eye and do it just yet.

Rudra's pain at the pain he has caused Paro and his insecurities about what she is really thinking is also evident - he is not sure how to get her to speak or forgive him or anything - so as he waits for her to come round to him ( it pains him that she keeps turning away from him and shrinking from his touch now and their fragile bond seems at the point of breaking)

But Laila is a fighter and will do anything to get her man - she is doing anything and everything to hang onto Rudra - irrespective of whether Rudra even wants her or not. She wants the wedge between them to get deeper and of course will go to Rudra when she sees him alone - she is waiting for any opportunity to get close to him - to prove she is the woman for him!

As you said though people have always underestimated Paro and Laila is in for a shock too if she thinks Paro will give up so easily.

As for the precap - unfortunately i haven't seen it so will wait for Monday. What will Paro do when she sees them together? I really can't wait to see what happens next!!

Mind-blowing acting Sanaya and Ashish! And Ankita - can seem OTT at times - but then i thought maybe Rudra has driven Laila to the point of madness and who knows how we would behave then! Maybe she is barely holding it together herself? I still see potential in her character - but yes she is not coming across as well as she could do.

and yes booyaaka to Team RR - Well done by beating Beintahaa by 100 runs - honestly who says truth is not stranger than fiction!

Originally posted by: jalkukdi1

I totally agree with this Laila angle, (although the girl playing the character is not that good portraying the character on the screen), if Rudra had been sleeping around with different women than it's totally justifieble that he is using women as an outlet to vent his anger towards beautiful women, but if you go to the same person over the last 8 years every night, sleep with her, eat her food, talk about your frustration to her and than accept that there was no commitment than it's wrong, cause even if he says that he never committed to her his actions did, and Laila is totally justified to have emotions towards him...yes I agree there is no love from Rudra's side for Laila,,,,,but he cannot push his deeds under the rug and say he has always told her that he will never commit and expect the same from her...that does not relieve him...yes Laila also needs some reality check

Originally posted by: -Sush-

HI Jalkudi!

Good point about the monogamous nature of Rudra and Laila's relationship...

Laila does need a reality check too...however heartbreaking it is...she can not force him to love her...,

Thank you for replying to my post, I understand you were busy with a very important work, may god bless you for helping for a good cause.

Originally posted by: -Sush-

Hey.sush and jalkudi

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">HI Jalkudi!</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Good point about the monogamous nature of Rudra and Laila's relationship...</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Laila does need a reality check too...however heartbreaking it is...she can not force him to love her. Atleast that is not her first priority right now
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[BRhey ladies
]I agree laila needs a reality check but I think her idea is not to get Rudra love her Atleast that is nit her first priority right now

Laila entered into the relationship with the assumption , this the maximum any body could get close to himShe believed him when he said he doesn't agree with the institution if marriage For 8 years she was able to follow him , keep hI'm close , Suddenly.one day she sees a new emotion in him , something she thought he is incapable of , but end of the day it's him , who is so used to being alone and who is so dark that any other girl with a dream like expectation from her husband can never stand him for longShe will eventually give up , she can fasten it by being there herselfBy putting it front of his wife, his old self
So laila takes paro as her barrier
If you see her dialogues she has completely underestimated paro her confidence is more from she will be able to deal with paro or make her leave rather than make rusra fall in love Which makes it a one to one between paro and laila and indirectly laila is making it a test of acceptance and knowing her husband for paroIt is a different question , should paro give the test at all does her husband deserve that, I am not going there
Typo it's my mobile

Here is another one from Paulo. Apt for Rudy Boy. Hope UR does not beat me black and blue

It is part of the human nature always to judge others very severely and,when the wind turns against us,always to find an excuse for our own misdeeds,or to blame someone else for our mistakes.

Originally posted by: -Sush-

Lovely quote Shweta...but which pain are you thinking of? Care to elaborate? Will check tomorrow,..need to go to bed...

Sush...your thread is really getting interesting, so...

Let me add another of my two cents.

All said and done Laila is Rudra's past. She WAS his lover if nothing else in the past eight years.

Hence the only thing that I found wrong on the part of Rudra was that he did not give a name to his Laila relationship when confessing to Paro. "Kuchh rishta nahi...koi sawal nahi". Typical male attitude (RS & GH & ST put together). 😉

Secondly when Laila attacked Paro (indirectly hurting Rudra) he did have a conversation with her and told her off. That was as close as he could get to a closure with Laila, which is fair enough. Because he has already ended the affair back in Jaipur. He does not need to explain his new intentions or feelings about Paro to Laila. Even in reality, men and women just shun their past affairs without explanations. A cowardly route is usually adopted. But here Rudra has ended it once in Jaipur and then again on the haldi day he came back to Laila (after reaching Paro to her room) and told her off.

Also from the looks of it, Laila wants Rudra back not as a husband but as a LOVER...as long he comes back to her as his old self, a broken man with baggage...she is okay with it.

So Laila following him here and then pushing him into accepting is pure obsession, nothing more.

Also Rudra is now exposed to the dark side of Laila (her attacks on Paro)...so whatever little respect/benaam feelings he might have had for her as a friend are crushed/ruined.

And then most importantly it's not a love triangle, it's about Rudra and Paro.

What Rudra and Paro make out of his past and hers is what the story is all about.

Two things; One is what Rudra wants out of this marriage with Paro? Is he ready to bury his past (mother) and embrace Paro whole heartedly?

Because for Paro all this time over and above the 8 negated vachans, Rudra has been pushing her away. Apart from the protection and care, he has not offered her anything beyond that.

Two - Is Paro ready to accept the fact that he had a lover for the past eight years. Does this change the kind of love and adoration she has for him? I don't think it would in any way...she loves him for what he is.

Aage dekhte hai...kya hota hai...