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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Semanti


That's a little unfair, don't you think? After all, you're blaming Laila for doing EXACTLY what Paro did. While Rudra and Paro's love is evident to the viewer, it is not to Laila. SHE doesn't know that she isn't the heroine of this story. So how is she in the wrong for fighting tooth and nail for her love?
She must think that she and Rudra are 'meant to be' just as Paro thinks so.


What a great discussion guys! I'm so glad my post has gotten you guys to truly think about the messages they send. That being said, I have to disagree with Laila being a vulture here- I agree with Sem. Paro is the vulture- at least in Laila's eyes- because she is picking up the remains of Laila's relationship with Rudra. To Laila, Rudra is truly her soulmate, and Paro is the unwanted vulture scavenging for the remains of a seemingly dead carcass that is actually- to Laila- still alive. I can truly sympathize with her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Semanti


Stripe-Sa, we're writing our own little Animal Farm here. Only without farm animals. 😆
I will concede your point about Laila being grey. But I just can't see her as a vulture. She just doesn't give me a...shakuni vibe, you know what I mean? Perhaps she will be the Ganga to Rudra-Paro after all. The holy river which purifies everything it touches. She will show Rudra just what he has in Paro, and thereby, sanctify their love.


Again, I'll have to politely disagree. Ganga is ...too pure? Because Laila is a naachnewaali, how can you compare her to a river-goddess? If we're bringing goddess-references in here, I'll suggest you look up Ishtar's story in the Epic of Gilgamesh. When the man she loved refused to marry her becuase she had had many past lovers, she threatened to " bring up the dead to eat food like the living; and the hosts of the dead will outnumber the living". I think you're intelligent enough to see that the parallels with Laila are pretty obvious.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: laddoo598



I would have to disagree with you. If she were grey, then she wouldn't be plotting and planning to this extent. She would have been hurt yes, maybe she would have even lashed out at Paro, begged Rudra to leave Paro, but this level of cold manipulative, calculative game playing is not the doings of a grey character. At this point, really she is all black to me. If she truly loved Rudra, then she wouldn't be so adamant of "achieving" him. Its like he is her favourite toy that she wants back. What he wants, who he wants, who he loves, hold no value to her.True love is all about you being happy in the happiness of the person you love. If she truly did love Rudra, then she would have let him be with Paro without trying to rain on their parade. Just my two cents.


I respect your opinion. But I've to politely disagree. So what if Laila is plotting and planning? Isn't Rudra guilty of manipulating her for 8 years and then just leaving her without one loving word, and then forcibly marrying Paro too? Are all his faults excused just because these two women are unfortunate enough to love that beast? I know I'm going to be mocked at for being a 'feminist' here, but what is right, should be right for all. If Rudra is grey and so many people can defend him, i think I'm within my rights to defend Laila, to an extent. I don't approve of her murderous intentions of course, but I'd like to think she's capable of redemption yet. Let's not make her the unequivocal villain of this fairytale and take away Tejawat's glory.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: laddoo598



Paro has plenty of reasons to believe Rudra cares for her. The guy cannot see her in pain, he constantly hovers over her, puts his own life at risk to save her, takes care of her, gets worried if she is out of his sight, and for all his tantrums and supposed hatred for her, he chooses her to pour his heart out to. A woman knows what all these gestures mean.

Laila on the other hand knew Rudra didn't want anything but sex from her. He never lead her on. Never showed that he cared. Then why is she deluding herself? She should have snapped ties with him 8 years ago only.


Erm...so did Laila! It wasn't 'just sex' for 8 years! Rudra treated Laila as a confidante, as a friend. He shared his troubles with her. He went to her for food and solace. She knows all about his dark past and his hatred for beautiful women. In fact, if there was a quiz about what Rudra likes and dislikes, I have a sneaking suspicion that Laila would win it. Paro just hasn't known him long enough. No matter how 'divine' we know their love to be. Laila appreciates just how cunning and ruthless Rudra can be, and she loved him for it. Didn't he pick her up in his arms when she fainted at his sangeet? Didn't he go to her whenever he was troubled or hungry or sick? Laila has as much reason as Paro to believe that Rudra and she are meant to be. More, I daresay. Paro was after all, an important witness and her protection was his responsibility.
So who is the usurper and who is the usurped?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45
@Stripe- Wow! Great connection to Ganga- Ganga also angered Shiva. He kept her in his silky locks (similar to another Rudra we know) and released her only after the King prayed to Shiva to release her. I think this is foreshadowing by the CVs- Rudra will blame Laila for Paro leaving, and will unleash his wrath on her. Mohini, Dilsher, and Danveer will be the only ones who will try and stop his broken hearted rampage.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: StripePurple


Again, I'll have to politely disagree. Ganga is ...too pure? Because Laila is a naachnewaali, how can you compare her to a river-goddess? If we're bringing goddess-references in here, I'll suggest you look up Ishtar's story in the Epic of Gilgamesh. When the man she loved refused to marry her becuase she had had many past lovers, she threatened to " bring up the dead to eat food like the living; and the hosts of the dead will outnumber the living". I think you're intelligent enough to see that the parallels with Laila are pretty obvious.


What a terrible thing to say! This is exactly what is wrong with our society and system! How and why should a woman's sexuality be linked to her 'purity'? And what exactly is 'purity' anyway? Who gets to decide who is 'impure'? Why do, 21st century educated women, still stick to patriarchal codes of conduct that were established centuries ago to suit the men! I applaud Ishtar! And I stand by Laila!
I love you, Stripe, but that's really not cool!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: chotidesi

@Stripe- Wow! Great connection to Ganga- Ganga also angered Shiva. He kept her in his silky locks (similar to another Rudra we know) and released her only after the King prayed to Shiva to release her. I think this is foreshadowing by the CVs- Rudra will blame Laila for Paro leaving, and will unleash his wrath on her. Mohini, Dilsher, and Danveer will be the only ones who will try and stop his broken hearted rampage.


Thanks Choti. But Semanti deserves the credit for making that comparison with Ganga. I actually don't agree with her- to me, Paro would be a better Ganga, because she'll wash away the sins of Rudra with her pure essence, while remaining as white as ever. She'll never change and that's the beauty of the character.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: StripePurple


Thanks Choti. But Semanti deserves the credit for making that comparison with Ganga. I actually don't agree with her- to me, Paro would be a better Ganga, because she'll wash away the sins of Rudra with her pure essence, while remaining as white as ever. She'll never change and that's the beauty of the character.


Paro cannot be both Parvati and Ganga. As Shiv's true consort, she is Parvati. So Laila is Ganga.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: StripePurple


I respect your opinion. But I've to politely disagree. So what if Laila is plotting and planning? Isn't Rudra guilty of manipulating her for 8 years and then just leaving her without one loving word, and then forcibly marrying Paro too? Are all his faults excused just because these two women are unfortunate enough to love that beast? I know I'm going to be mocked at for being a 'feminist' here, but what is right, should be right for all. If Rudra is grey and so many people can defend him, i think I'm within my rights to defend Laila, to an extent. I don't approve of her murderous intentions of course, but I'd like to think she's capable of redemption yet. Let's not make her the unequivocal villain of this fairytale and take away Tejawat's glory.



On the contrary, I thought she was beyond redemption the day she tried to kill Paro, for no fault of hers. I don't think Rudra ever manipulated her. He made it clear to her that he only wanted a physical relationship with her, and he is incapable of offering anything more. Whenever she tried to act more than a woman who warms his bed, he reminded her she is not his wife, nor his girlfriend and hence she doesn't need to go out of her way to do take care of him. She knew this, she knew his conditions, and she still fell in love with him. There is nothing wrong in falling in love of course. But wanting Rudra to love her back? Asserting Rudra isn't allowed to love another woman? This is absurdity. You can't force someone to love you. The way I see it she is well past the point of redemption, I see her the lead villain from here on. Plus the actor playing Tejawat has clearly moved on to better and meatier roles, so Laila will be given even more importance now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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thanks keep it up your analysis👍🏼

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