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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Crystal29

Anu, I have a problem when we start generalizing. Like men cannot do that or women cannot do this. Why can't men cry? And Rudra - he has issues. Issues that are now part of his existence.

And from what I have seen, Rudra does not cry at the drop of the hat or something. This is the first he even broke down before Paro when he was NOT drunk. I should know, because I have waited for this for such a long time. And today - the beauty of this is he has opened up to her so much that he can actually cry before her. He does not even do that before Dilsher. If not anything else, can't we see that he sees her as apna? And what I loved, he just sat right there before her holding her hands. Just made himself so vulnerable. Showed this side of him to her. What more would a wife want. And this is not something he will do everyday. This is taking their relationship to the next level. The last part, when he says that - laaut aayi...then Paro asks - who, your mother? The way he nods his head with tears in his eyes and does not even feel ashamed to show his tears and sorrows to her. Because he has decided to share this with Paro. There is no stopping him now. He let himself free there. How amazingly it was executed. And maybe from now on he will be this way.

And when did he open up. He keeps saying you don't know me. Pushed her away, showed his anger etc etc for a long long time. It is not possible for him to hold on more. And today when he again says that you don't know me, she tells him, you yourself told me in BSD office that you are broken this way. So there we go. He knows, she gets him. How much more can he hide?

I am overjoyed by the fact that we are heading somewhere in the story and their relationship here. So I am just amazed when I see that majority seem to think it is OTT or not in Rudra's character to break down like that. How is a man to show his demons then? Personally if Ashish had done anything different than what I saw, I would have not liked it..Maybe I do like such dark vulnerable heroes..You should know! 😆




I so badly wanted to reply to this pehle but I had to run out for a bit...so BEAUTIFULLY said, Anu...I LOVE the point you've made here and it was very important that this be said, this be pointed out...that this was a LANDMARK moment in his character today...this moment where just this once he actually PUT HIMSELF OUT THERE...and no, this was NOT out of the blue, NOT something that needs to be preceded by sweeping love declarations...this was a moment of UNDERSTANDING b/w these two people...a moment where Rudra for once GAVE IN...and TRUSTED her enough to put his wounds on display more clearly than he ever has.

When he held her hand and just slid down to sit on the floor...that is a moment that speaks for the vulnerability of this man that he otherwise is always hiding...but in that moment, he let down his guard enough to submit himself to her care and isn't that what love is all about? Isn't that what a relationship is all about...Rudra has just started submitting himself to her despite the fact that he feels that he does not have it in him to give her the kind of LOVE that she is looking for...despite the fact that he feels he will only hurt her...in that moment, Paro's KINDNESS, her UNDERSTANDING...UNDID him...that is the beauty of this scene, this episode and Ashish covered the entire GAMUT of emotions there was to cover there...that lost little boy is VERY MUCH inside Rudra still...and yes that moment you pointed out where he nods his head as Paro asks him if he's talking about his mother...that moment shows you how in that moment the mask has totally come off and it is the vulnerable lost boy talking more than the scarred grown man...and you can't help but feel for that little boy.
Edited by AreYaar - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: CyberOstrich


Crystal @ BOLD- THIS!! WORD! Agree with each and every word there!
Paro has become his lifeline almost, his closet confidante, and if we cant break down in front of our closet and believe that they will understand us, then where else??
You know, in some instances, earlier, even i've been guilty of criticizing Rudra's crying scenes- i thought he could have done it some other way without the tears- but NOT TODAY! Today toh he was already so primed with emotions- he was totally on the edge of the precipice - so the precipitation point was given! And Ashish nailed all of it today! The first scene with his exasperation and the KYUN thingy- his frustration, his self berating...so so poignant and so intense!

And look at where he has reached here- what journey he has taken to reach here- where in his full sanity he is willing to show- actually WANTS to show his weakest side to this Girl for whom he was a Jallad a few weeks back! How he would actually want to just be that- but he cant be! his walls have broken now- and the emotional downpour he just cant control at the moment!! Yes- he's very soon getting it back- thanks to Laila dear and Paro's altruism!

Anu- Can i say one thing- mujhe peetna mat- after so many naaras and petitions for getting Laila back- i sort of found her mehh! No- I LIKE the SITUATION and here and especially how Rudra is going to deal with this and how is he going to come clear with Paro- i am so looking forward to that! But Ankita Sharma IMO overdoes it with her expressions! There I said it- ab mujhe bhi joote padenge kahin na kahin se!




You see it today, Shalini! AT LAST! 😆😆 Yes, today I don't see where his emotions can be faulted...I can't believe these breakdowns are being called repetitive...today was LANDMARK, DIFFERENT from any previous occasion where he's spoken about his past...this is the most he's opened up yet and it was very significant moment.

Loved how you put the bits in bold👏👏


Re: Laila...LOL arey she hasn't really gotten into form yet😆...I toh was just getting entertainment from Rudra's reactions to her😆...otherwise yes this Paro-Laila lowe ishtory is putting me to sleep.

As for Ankita...lol but wasn't Laila SUPPOSED to be looking kinda fake with her bechaari act today?😆...anyways I don't have anything against her...I think she does a good job as Laila.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: DexterRocks


i can see the descendants of gul khan shows here and they are blending up shakespear's hero with gul khan's hero and thus the blunder. i think we all know, the first sound or emotion a new born baby makes is his/her crying. does not that differentiate between basic human nature and monsters.
plus WTH, army officers cannot cry ? for what ? and when did Rudra breakdown continuously ? it has been once in 2 months i think.
or may be they expect Rudra to throw paro here and there and break the mirror glasses and everything beside him when he cries, that adds upto the machoness .🤓 LOL they don't like him breaking mirrors and stuff either😆...see that is the hilarity in all this...if Rudra breaks stuff, does things like the hate marriage, then he's labeled an ABUSER...if he cries, he's a crybaby😆...clearly there is NOTHING Rudra can do to satisfy certain people😆



yes , i mentioned, last genuine breakdown was after dilsher slipped into coma and maala's truth got revealed to him. if he wouldn't cry then, or breakdown then, then who would connect with Rudra ? may be the people who connects with invisible and plastic pain of other characters of the show. Sure looks like it...cuz only that pain is considered GENUINE...while Rudra's is considered repetitive and artificial😕



if people have read or watched othello, then they will really not complain unless they are frustated for some other reason. and people unknown to shakespear and his heroes are then for a treat here. infact, macbeth is much more tragic, and so was romeo. Othello is the machoest of them all. and Rudra from no angle does seem like a cry baby, yes he is vulnerable and tragic, and that is just how life has made him, does not add up to a disadvantage of his character. infact makes him more relatable. I think the problem is that Rudra actually has layers to him unlike the generally superficial "dark' heroes of Indian TV...and people don't want layers...they want quick fixes...even in dark characters...they want him to brood according to whatever definitions of "sexiness" that satisfy them...crying isn't SEXY, you see...so obviously it is bashed😆


i think forum has gone beserk, this will continue, unless the groups get what they ask for. for example, i can see paro fans not making a single post on her mahaan tyaag or help for laila, instead busy on picking up Rudra's breakdowns and all. doesn't that say much ?
rudra before being an army man, he is maala's son, dilsher's son, both of whom have literally burned his childhood, silently posioned his happiness, before being an army officer he had faced this, and there are no rules that your profession wipes away all your past.
Ashish is doing his bets job, giving his 100%, people criticizes him only because iether they intentionally ignore his flawless work or they fail to understand what Rudra actually is. I don't know what is up with this forum, honestly...guess better to just focus on talking about Rudra and giving Ashish his due for such fabulous performances👏👏...just like he keeps doing his work with the same dedication despite all the bashing hurled at him on other platforms.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: ttt1

i like the characterization of a man who is not scared to express or cry when he starts to trust his wife

but dont you think it is too soon , it is just 2 days of marriage
i loved rudra dilsher scene yesterday where he tries to cover his disability, but didnt let it be seen out , i thought that was the best scene yesterday
any way koi nahin , speed is always an issue with the show
saying that i do have an issue with army men characterization
ST initially the reason for choice of an army officer itself was because he has low EQ , that i think is BS
PS i havnt watched the episode yet this is based on WU



I don't know what ST said about EQ...I'm just going by what's being shown on screen and Ashish's portrayal of Rudra...and I feel that is quite well sketched out, breakdowns included.

I do agree that I expected the hate marriage part to be addressed better but then they've shown the incidents of Rudra softening with the Jaipur scenes and then now post the laddoo track...basically I'd say this scene of him opening up was given believable build up...the other loopholes only time will tell if they are addressed.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: CyberOstrich


Crystal @ BOLD- THIS!! WORD! Agree with each and every word there!
Paro has become his lifeline almost, his closet confidante, and if we cant break down in front of our closet and believe that they will understand us, then where else??
You know, in some instances, earlier, even i've been guilty of criticizing Rudra's crying scenes- i thought he could have done it some other way without the tears- but NOT TODAY! Today toh he was already so primed with emotions- he was totally on the edge of the precipice - so the precipitation point was given! And Ashish nailed all of it today! The first scene with his exasperation and the KYUN thingy- his frustration, his self berating...so so poignant and so intense!

And look at where he has reached here- what journey he has taken to reach here- where in his full sanity he is willing to show- actually WANTS to show his weakest side to this Girl for whom he was a Jallad a few weeks back! How he would actually want to just be that- but he cant be! his walls have broken now- and the emotional downpour he just cant control at the moment!! Yes- he's very soon getting it back- thanks to Laila dear and Paro's altruism!

Anu- Can i say one thing- mujhe peetna mat- after so many naaras and petitions for getting Laila back- i sort of found her mehh! No- I LIKE the SITUATION and here and especially how Rudra is going to deal with this and how is he going to come clear with Paro- i am so looking forward to that! But Ankita Sharma IMO overdoes it with her expressions! There I said it- ab mujhe bhi joote padenge kahin na kahin se!



Thanks! I hope I can call you Shalini too! 😊 BTW I am Anu too! 😆

I loved the part in bold. Oh yeah, if we can't break down before our closest, then where else. And this scene was built up so beautifully from yesterday's epi. I would love to see it once from start to finish. I was reminded today of Paro's dialogue today - that aapke aankhen kuch kehthi hain aur zaban kuch aur. And today was the day when Rudra, his aankhen and his zaban said the same thing. That he can't control this emotional downpour anymore. He needs to tell all there is to his Paro. And it was a treat to watch!
Edited by Crystal29 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Thank you jee!😃 I really don't know what else to add here. You have said it all!

This was the landmark moment. After this, Rudra has no going back. He has taken this step towards Paro. He cannot deny it like other times when he was drunk. Of course, he might snap back at her telling her not to bring this up. But there is no way he can deny this. It actually brings up a very interesting situation now. Something different from what we have seen before today.

Yes he did look like a vulnerable little boy nodding his head when she asks about his mother. And the part after that too - where he says - do you know where I found her? He was so in the mood to talk to her today yaar! He would have told her everything! Even stuff he did not know himself! If only that Laila lady had not come then!

The conversation is incomplete here. Of course he can't tell her more on his mother. But he didn't tell her what he is feeling towards her. He himself has not explored it much. Maybe that is the next conversation I will look forward to now.

And I also absolutely loved the way they both snapped out of the moment at ease when the phone rang. That was such a husband-wife sort of reaction! No feeling uncomfortable there!

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Posted: 11 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: DexterRocks

Sorry to say this...but my daughter who is 5 yrs old knows paro's real name ...as sanaya...
AS i don't go that gaga over rudra/ashish she doesn't know those names... ...
But i don't know how does all this count ??towards what????
I mean I am sanz fan I watch her shows so she knows my fav actress is sanz...
she knows same things about nadal,madhuri dixit too...
What does it have to do with show,actors ability,popularity...😕
Secondly "taali dono haathon sein bajati hai"...right???
I have read some posts mocking paro the character,sanz the actress & most importantly remarks as "i watch this show only for ashish...
70% of today's beautiful episode credit goes to ashish...
ashish stole the show even though he had just one scene today...
RR is worth watching just because of ashish..."
So with such remarks...what does it suggest????????
So this whole thing of "glass house & stones"doesn't make that much sense...
no lead pair can be a hit only because of one actor...
If sanish is a popular pair credit goes to sanz & ashish both...
we are lucky to have them as leads...
RR has great actors ...the whole team is great...
I love,adore sanz...and i am liking ashish's rudra too...
criticizing characters is okay ...criticizing actors should be done in a dignified ,respectable way...
I think our RR forum shouldn't be destroyed by fan groups & their constant competition to prove sanz or AS better than each other...
It can be good to increase forum pages but bad for forum atmosphere...
There is no need to put sanz down so as to make AS look as if he is the only reason shwo is popular...
Simillarly there is no reason to put AS down so as to make sanz look great...
RR is hit/popular because of both of them...
It takes two to tango...doesn't it???????

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Posted: 11 years ago
#58
One quick edit on my fav. cap :-)


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Posted: 11 years ago
#59
Lovely post. So touching.

Paro, the counselor. Loved how Rudra downloads his miseries.
So nice to see Rudra trusting Paro enough to share what is tormenting him.
Overall, a lovely episode. Very touching.

A big hug to the RR Team.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Caps of some of my fav. Rudra expressions today







Hi,
Are yaar!!!! Doesn't he remind you of apne Monu (u know who) here?😉

BTW, wonderful post there!👏

-WREX

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