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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Evie,

You say it so well.👏

Major bared his soul today and Paro Bai Sa noticed the change in him. He knows that Paro Bai sa will get the shock of her life when the truth comes out. Feel bad for her too because she has to look down on that person to whom she has looked up all her life.😕 Well, Major will be meeting his mom soon ( Guessing from today's episode)😊

Fab acting by both the leads.👏

Edited by Tennessean - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: Rupunzale

Hi Eve...Wonderful post dear...but I am sorry I don't agree. He is an abuser and has been from the time of the interrogation...it eases sometimes and erupts back...it's manipulation at its best..the worst fact is that he has increased his physical proximity with her which is considered molestation and to a degree of sexual harassment and I have no qualms in admitting that I truly hate Rudra's character. He not only needs to be court marshaled but charged with abusing a suspect...I did write a letter to the channel yesterday and have asked them about the glorification of abuse...I also asked them about the military laws of BSF which Mr Tiwari has so aptly admitted in portraying as BSD...how far will an officer go get coerce information/ submission from a helpless suspect or witness? Is raping a woman suspect acceptable as a form of interrogation or gathering information? In my profession that is what Rudra is being doing... Psychologically raping her little by little until she completely breaks down...and all in the name of patriotism/border security. I hope I get the answers soon.

What is abuse? Psychological abuse

Any act, including confinement, isolation, verbal assault, humiliation, intimidation, infantilization, or any other treatment which may diminish the sense of identity, dignity, and self-worth.

This is sometimes called emotional abuse. Some researchers refer to it by formal terms such as "chronic verbal aggression".

Psychological abuse can make the person feel "less of a person". It diminishes the person's sense of identity, dignity, and self-worth. Abused people often find that psychological or emotional abuse is the most hurtful form of abuse.

Psychological abuse may make a person fearful or cause the person mental anguish.

This is what abuse is in psychological terms.

Has Rudra being doing this to Paro...Yes, he is. Is he an abuser ? Yes, he is.

You and I come a long way Eve...in the past we have not always agreed but have always had mutual respect and admiration...that will never change for me😊...but I am afraid I cannot agree with you on this. I have seen what abused is too close to not recognize it. You know I am a romantic at heart and have waited for their lovestory even after all the horrific interrogation...but I am afraid I can't accept him as Paro's better half anymore. This was suppose to be a love story and I never had a problem with pain or separation in a lovestory as you have aptly mentioned ...but this is not the case here...it's abuse and I have zero tolerance for that.

Rudra was abandoned by his mother...yes, he had a difficult childhood and I felt sorry for him but there are thousands of children in the world growing up without parents...without a steady home but does that give them the right to be selfish and hurt others...No. It does not absolve him of his behavior towards Paro.


You seem to have given the whole psychological abuse theme a broad stroke of generalization. All of what you mention above are not entirely out of the realms of what is seen in the military or any forms of law enforcement. I am not saying what Rudra is doing is the standard way of interrogating a suspect, or even an acceptable way. I am also not disagreeing with your premise of what psychological abuse is, merely that it seems a bit of an oversimplification in this context. Not to mention, Rudra finds himself in an exceptional circumstance, and hence is taking some exceptional steps.
Furthermore, rather than making Paro cower in fear, after spending all this time with Rudra, she is starting to lose that air of being a fragile wall-flower. She is now brave, gutsy, and not afraid to speak her mind. I am not quite seeing the pervasive fear that abusers engender in their victims between Rudra and Paro.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rupunzale

Hi Eve...Wonderful post dear...but I am sorry I don't agree. He is an abuser and has been from the time of the interrogation...it eases sometimes and erupts back...it's manipulation at its best..the worst fact is that he has increased his physical proximity with her which is considered molestation and to a degree of sexual harassment and I have no qualms in admitting that I truly hate Rudra's character. He not only needs to be court marshaled but charged with abusing a suspect...I did write a letter to the channel yesterday and have asked them about the glorification of abuse...I also asked them about the military laws of BSF which Mr Tiwari has so aptly admitted in portraying as BSD...how far will an officer go get coerce information/ submission from a helpless suspect or witness? Is raping a woman suspect acceptable as a form of interrogation or gathering information? In my profession that is what Rudra is being doing... Psychologically raping her little by little until she completely breaks down...and all in the name of patriotism/border security. I hope I get the answers soon.

What is abuse? Psychological abuse

Any act, including confinement, isolation, verbal assault, humiliation, intimidation, infantilization, or any other treatment which may diminish the sense of identity, dignity, and self-worth.

This is sometimes called emotional abuse. Some researchers refer to it by formal terms such as "chronic verbal aggression".

Psychological abuse can make the person feel "less of a person". It diminishes the person's sense of identity, dignity, and self-worth. Abused people often find that psychological or emotional abuse is the most hurtful form of abuse.

Psychological abuse may make a person fearful or cause the person mental anguish.

This is what abuse is in psychological terms.

Has Rudra being doing this to Paro...Yes, he is. Is he an abuser ? Yes, he is.

You and I come a long way Eve...in the past we have not always agreed but have always had mutual respect and admiration...that will never change for me😊...but I am afraid I cannot agree with you on this. I have seen what abused is too close to not recognize it. You know I am a romantic at heart and have waited for their lovestory even after all the horrific interrogation...but I am afraid I can't accept him as Paro's better half anymore. This was suppose to be a love story and I never had a problem with pain or separation in a lovestory as you have aptly mentioned ...but this is not the case here...it's abuse and I have zero tolerance for that.

Rudra was abandoned by his mother...yes, he had a difficult childhood and that is extremely unfortunate...but there are thousands of children in the world growing up without parents...without a steady home but does that give them the right to be selfish and hurt others...No. It does not absolve him of his behavior towards Paro.


I am sorry , i think you are in a wrong forum. This is not savdhan india@11 , crime patrol nor satyameva jayete.. Where you are raising voice against women's right.. This is Rangrasiya ( A love hate fictional story ) forum... .😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Suhana2014



I am sorry , i think you are in a wrong forum. This is not savdhan india@11 , crime patrol nor satyameva jayete.. Where you are raising voice against women's right.. This is Rangrasiya ( A love hate fictional story ) forum... .😊

I have no idea about any of the shows you have mentioned. This is a forum and my friend's thread where I have expressed my opinion. Matured people should have the capacity to respect others opinion...that is what a forum is all about. And as for advocating women's right...it's applicable anywhere a woman is concerned. Nowhere it was promoted as a love/hate story...please read the synopsis...it was suppose to be a lovestory...not a hate filled love story. We Human all perceive things differently...let's leave it to that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wonderful post dear, I completely agree with every word you have written.
This is the reason why I atleast come to the forum to troll even after much ridicule in AD :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wonderful post, best post till now in RR forum for me... this is first time i am here in this forum to post... am regular silent reader... loved your analysis about any episode, be it RR or any other show... am fond of reading your posts since LTL forum... love the show & its narration by writers & CVs , also Ashish Sanaya's superb acting...nothing more to say... Thanks for this beautiful post
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Good post TM...
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All I will say is...even Good and loving people have unacceptable behavior...at times...These two things are not mutually exclusive...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: lovely

Eve I am not good with words but today the rudra paro scene was just beautiful. Rudra almost pleading for her to understand. And I am not sure if I am the only one who thinks that when Paro said that he does not understand her. Rudra paused. I think that he does know about her innocence in this matter but he wants her to see that she is on the wrong side of the fence. But I could be wrong.

Episode was fantastic. Looking forward to the sisterly conversation tomorrow.

Yes, Rudra here is more aware, more mature at times and also more understanding. Although it doesn't show...he knows exactly what the situation is but there is no way he can convince Paro
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ipkkndcrazy1

awesome thoughts,

like u said...at the end of it all...what it does is make us think on different levels, about people, how they live, how different is the world outside home and how blessed atleast some of us are...
makes us value what we have and thank God for what we dont have to go through!

Agreed...sometimes we need a wake up call...we need to sit up and look around and realize how blessed we are!! differences should be celebrated not created 😊!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautiful. ..love never comes without pain my dear and this is my personal experience being a sikh but married to a hindu man me and my husband feel it and we are enjoying rr as a love story.

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