Hash it out and Keep the show going...DT note #13 - Page 7

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Posted: 14 years ago
#61
zenny completely agree but i still se thoda ruko fr d track to proceed
khanak is a iwfe who is supporting her husband in every step n once gangubai is back khanak wil get more to do wid d stuff as mentioned b4 catering n all...watever little ym had in d recent epis she is oustanding must say... widout dialogues too she captres every emotion spot on
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Posted: 14 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: -Veena-

Zee.. that IS the point .. focus on the show.. but this was long brewing.. this was much needed. We like it or not!😳
As far as YM.. She sits pretty fine.. she is one refined actress who has handled her career and fans well and when we care for the show.. we care for YM! Be assured!😳




i know we do Veenz but maybe it's time to show that care? and though YM is fabulous is whatever she does, that does not take away from the fact that she is getting almost no scope she deserves as the female lead in the show atm.


the whole dahi handi week went to shaan and adi and this week is pretty much about khushi. i am not making false claims. watch today's episode and you'll know what i mean.


i am sorry but as much as i would like to believe that we 'care' equally for YM, it appears otherwise.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: shanakyasharan

zenny completely agree but i still se thoda ruko fr d track to proceed

khanak is a iwfe who is supporting her husband in every step n once gangubai is back khanak wil get more to do wid d stuff as mentioned b4 catering n all...watever little ym had in d recent epis she is oustanding must say... widout dialogues too she captres every emotion spot on




karishma! i have explained my stand in shriya di's post. please go read it. i have answered all your questions there.


@bold

somehow that is not very re assuring LOL!
Edited by zennnn - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#64
Have just about finished going through everybody's posts...
Am flabbergasted to say the least!!! Barring a few voices of dissent, why this mad rush to give KT a clean chit??!!
At the cost of doubting our own sensibilities??!!
Appalling to put it mildly!!
What exactly is expecting too much??
Why are fans always asked to keep a check on their expectations...when those very same expectations have been thrust on their faces??!! Fans did not exactly go "digging into his personal life" as seems to have been suggested!😲

KT has time and again, repeatedly made comments about his singledom status...he needn't have, but he chose to!

In those very moments itself, his personal life ceased to remain 'personal' any longer!! Whether he likes it or not, his personal life has entered public domain, with he himself having played a role in the same! Period!!
And, once that happens, a certain sense of responsibility comes attached with it...
If the individual concerned does not seem to possess it, too bad...high time he learnt it!!
And, that Veena, is exactly the "core issue"!
It astounds me no end, when the rationale for a certain behaviour pattern for actors is compared to friends and relatives!! The two are incomparable, IMO!!
The issue of a Role Model has also been raised.
A helluva lot goes into the making of a role model...do not think that KT has entered the space of a Role Model yet, his actions on young, impressionable minds notwithstanding! But yes, do believe...all is not lost yet! He can still regain much of his lost glory...needs to just look within...into those realms of his persona, which I still believe KT posseses...of a guy who has depth, but just needs to scratch beneath the surface!:)
Talk also veered towards the real deal. Exactly! It is about the REAL DEAL!! It is not about the reel alone!
KT has given fans a certain impression about him...given his age, am willing to go the extra mile...
But, what is extremely disturbing, is that even after fact has outshone myth, the audaciousness continues...undermining fans' intellect...their loyalty...their unstinting belief!!
Almost in a sense saying...27, 000 is just another number! Not the 27,000 die-hard fans who have invested their time, energy and emotions to make that number a reality!!!
That, my friends is the REAL DEAL!!
And, that for me is completely unaccepatble!!
Last but not the least, it saddens me no end, that a TV actor, can so intrude into the sanctity of a forum so as to clearly drive a wedge...when issues are highlighted as yours versus mine, that truly is cause for worry!
Am sure, there will be a zillion posts that will be created to counter explain that actors are actors...they owe us nothing but their craft...and so on and so forth!😆
Hence will summarise my thoughts vis-a-vis KT in a nutshell...
KT is a FAB actor! He breathes Shantanu Khandelwal!!👏
Have an emotional connect with KT, for the flashes of goodness that I have seen in him...
Hence, if a point is being made about a 'scope for improvement' area, a LOT has gone into the making of the same!
If the guy comes around, nothing will please me more, than to let me know that my belief was not misplaced!
"Its never too late" or so someone said not so long ago...
Never mind if it was your screen counterpart, my friend...
It is truly never too late, Mr. Karan Tacker!😊
Love,
Dyotona
PS: A special mention here for Shriya! A heartfelt Thank You, Dearie for the special post that you created for me...your kind words of appreciation were genuine, earnest, and overwhelmed me completely...
As for the genius bit, am not entirely sure😳...just speak my mind, and stand up for what I think is right!😊
PPS: The one reassuring fact, that has come out in all this, is that we ALL stand united vis-a-vis RBO!
"The show must defo go on!"👍🏼😊
Edited by dr.dsr - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#65

Veena ...Agreed ..😊

RBO = entire crew from cameraman ,director ,writters ,CVs to actors together who put life to characters we love to see.All of them do hard hard and good work .

Its team work ! At the end of the day ,good work should be praised .

For them to get their due and show to go on, RBO has to consistently do well..and we can do our bit with the CM,articles etc ..

Edited by priya1209 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#66
I was just talking to Jessica who is my best friend on this forum and we had a hearty laugh when I said that --

"I see more than 50 patients every day in the OPD and most of them are so emotionally attached to me that they come and tell their personal problems and issues, along with their diseases...(happens will almost all the doctors, not a new thing)...my teenage patients actually look upto me as a role model and aunties tell their kids to learn something...
If someone asks me about my personal life...I don't say 'no comments' or 'it's personal' as I find that rude...I just tell in 2 lines and refrain from telling more... depending on who is asking...we need to be careful in a city like Delhi...But it irritates me and I feel like saying...how does it matter to you??? as long as I am treating you properly !!!

I dread the day they ask me to come clean and tell me who I am going out with and who I am close to, and do I post at India-forums and who all do I talk to here
😆...
why should I even tell...????
Why ??????"


I personally don't agree to the fact that Anybody should come out and tell about his relationship status...what will his so-called fans do then???...
Party and be happy for him and go back to loving him ????...will it make him a better actor ???!!!
And I refuse to believe that he came out and said that "hey! come we'll discuss my relationship status and I'm single..."
No...he was probed by the reporters for the sake of female fans...
and what he said was pure fun...so the core issue is non-issue...
Sorry !!!!

In past few posts I read that actors are not special people, just some other paid employees...hence the comparison with my job...plzz don't come back saying now that actors cannot be compared to doctors or corporate people...we can't move in circles😆,...we have to take a stand 😃!!

I wouldn't have answered again...but someone indirectly quoted me saying that the actor's behaviour was compared to friends and relatives...Well...I did that comparison, so I need to answer that...I gave an example as the way people are behaving touchy about this subject...I doubt they will ever react in the same way if their friends or relatives did that 😆!!!

Emotional attachmant with the actor has been mentioned in various posts😆... that itself justifies my comparison...
this comparison with friends and relatives who hurt us... was not for me but for all those who are oh-so-hurt !!!
Leave it and move on....is all I said !!!


For a change, I don't get emotionally attached to unknown people ( actors are unknown as people to us)...so I wasn't hurt at all !!!!

But, I don't understand the hypocrisy when people say that they are here to like his acting but I read that the poor guy lost respect on personal grounds...his life !!!!...Big Deal ???!!!

The fans who were betrayed should be leaving him and going instead of crying for apologies...apologising for what ?????
saying that he is single ????

I am not rushing to give someone a clean chit...wouldn't do so even for best friends...if they are on the wrong side !!
I stand up for what I think is right...!!!!

I am very much at the DT and the forum and I am supporting the show but I don't see any of the so-called fans posting anywhere for the benefit of the show...I request them to leave the issue aside and go back to loving the show...that brought us here in the first place !!!

Hard to get to each other's POV...from my side I rest my case here !!!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Can I ask some honest questions?...And I don't even know if I have a right to ask them...But here goes... Please forgive me if I am speaking out of turn...And please don't hate me for it...But...
If we can spend so much time, argueing that KT has done the most unforgivable thing, in your eyes...Why can't we spend as much time supporting RBO related articles and comment?...Is talking about negative issues more important?...And then slandering someone's name based upon our own observations?...How can we possibly judge the motive and intent in another individual heart?
How do people define relationships status in their persoal lives?...Do people discuss every private detail even with friends?...I would explain at length my own views on the matter, but frankly I want to get back to the discussing the show...When did we say we were giving Karan a clean chit?...I didn't think we had such authority...
Correct me if I am wrong Veena, but this thread was about supporting Odhani and our forum, no matter what...Instead once again our intelliegence, loyalty or bias towards the individual actors is put into question...
I support the chaska for RBO and ShaNak...And YashAran...Believe me or not, but to me they are equal...Why do I have to justify myself and prove my loyalty?...Do I have no credibility in your eyes?...
I appreciate all the efforts and comments made on articles and for the chaska...I want nothing but the good of the show, because it's decent and the best...If we all stick to this and support the TRP, petition and chaska...It can go a long way...Without the constant threats...Am I asking for too much?...Is it because some of you just don't care?...
😔
I am sorry for going off topic, but it just came out...
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Posted: 14 years ago
#68

Wowwieess.. Thanks for the eyeopener May..

Yes this thread is about moving on and really supporting the show we love.

Somewhere I think even I kinda lost the focus.. Sorry about that!

All lets focus our positives and support the show.. we all love this show.. lets be effective and show it!

PS:

Dyo dear.. don't be worried about this forum.. this is one forum that even if we all have had our difference and we keep it at the door and enjoy the show. The members of this forum are mature enough that they don't let such discussions effect their day to day conversations.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Manita-

I was just talking to Jessica who is my best friend on this forum and we had a hearty laugh when I said that --

"I see more than 50 patients every day in the OPD and most of them are so emotionally attached to me that they come and tell their personal problems and issues, along with their diseases...(happens will almost all the doctors, not a new thing)...my teenage patients actually look upto me as a role model and aunties tell their kids to learn something...
If someone asks me about my personal life...I don't say 'no comments' or 'it's personal' as I find that rude...I just tell in 2 lines and refrain from telling more... depending on who is asking...we need to be careful in a city like Delhi...But it irritates me and I feel like saying...how does it matter to you??? as long as I am treating you properly !!!

I dread the day they ask me to come clean and tell me who I am going out with and who I am close to, and do I post at India-forums and who all do I talk to here
😆...
why should I even tell...????
Why ??????"

Well...Sorry! But seems like you still havent got the point, Manita! 😊 The bottom line is you do not (and I presume so😆) mislead your patients into believing that you are a plastic surgeon, while your area of expertise may actually be dermatology!😊

I personally don't agree to the fact that Anybody should come out and tell about his relationship status...what will his so-called fans do then???...
Party and be happy for him and go back to loving him ????...will it make him a better actor ???!!!
And I refuse to believe that he came out and said that "hey! come we'll discuss my relationship status and I'm single..."
No...he was probed by the reporters for the sake of female fans...
and what he said was pure fun...so the core issue is non-issue...
Sorry !!!!
Of course, nobody needs to come out and make any comments about his/her relationship status! That is ludicrous to even expect!!😆 The core issue may be a non issue for you, KTs 'single' status posted by the man himself on his fanpage notwithstanding😆...but believe you me...is defo not the case with many, the admin of KTs fanpage herself being a case in point!👏

In past few posts I read that actors are not special people, just some other paid employees...hence the comparison with my job...plzz don't come back saying now that actors cannot be compared to doctors or corporate people...we can't move in circles😆,...we have to take a stand 😃!!

I wouldn't have answered again...but someone indirectly quoted me saying that the actor's behaviour was compared to friends and relatives...Well...I did that comparison, so I need to answer that...I gave an example as the way people are behaving touchy about this subject...I doubt they will ever react in the same way if their friends or relatives did that 😆!!!
Emotional attachmant with the actor has been mentioned in various posts😆... that itself justifies my comparison...
this comparison with friends and relatives who hurt us... was not for me but for all those who are oh-so-hurt !!!
Leave it and move on....is all I said !!

For a change, I don't get emotionally attached to unknown people ( actors are unknown as people to us)...so I wasn't hurt at all !!!!
Wonder who is actually getting all defensive here...had only expressed a POV! There was no need to get oh-so-touchy, really!😆 Will still maintain that there is an emotional connect with KT but it, IMO, cannot be compared on the same level as friends and relatives! Thats quite bizarre to even suggest!😆
Guess those who claim to not be emotionally attached to him 'cos he's an 'unknown person', and still post links of threads on his fanpage, do it for the love of his craft alone!!🤣
As regards "Leave it and move on"...hmmm...kinda sounds familiar..."Let Bygones be Bygones" or so did I say!😆


But, I don't understand the hypocrisy when people say that they are here to like his acting but I read that the poor guy lost respect on personal grounds...his life !!!!...Big Deal ???!!!
This does not qualify as hypocrisy, Manita! This is giving the guy his due where he absolutely deserves it and questioning his accountability, where he equally deserves it, too!!
Something that not just a fan, but a well-wisher would do!!!😊

The fans who were betrayed should be leaving him and going instead of crying for apologies...apologising for what ?????
saying that he is single ????
Apologies is a far cry! The least that is expected is that the guy can at least go on the 'backfoot', so to speak!!

I am not rushing to give someone a clean chit...wouldn't do so even for best friends...if they are on the wrong side !!
I stand up for what I think is right...!!!!

I am very much at the DT and the forum and I am supporting the show but I don't see any of the so-called fans posting anywhere for the benefit of the show...I request them to leave the issue aside and go back to loving the show...that brought us here in the first place !!!
If I can speak for myself, have been one of the most die-hard Odhanians that can ever be...in fact can pride myself at being certified as amongst the most earnest ShaNak fans by friends who are closest to me!😳
Unlike a certain few, who claim to leave the forum as and how it suits them, having had their fill with RBO...only to resurface again as per their whims and fancies!😃
As regards, the show...that has been a constant in EVERYBODY'S posts...Thank God for small mercies, really!😃

Hard to get to each other's POV...from my side I rest my case here !!!!
Guess, my message is loud and clear, too!😊
Let's just agree to disagree!😊
Rest my case, too!!😃

Edited by dr.dsr - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Veena-

Wowwieess.. Thanks for the eyeopener May..

Yes this thread is about moving on and really supporting the show we love.

Somewhere I think even I kinda lost the focus.. Sorry about that!

All lets focus our positives and support the show.. we all love this show.. lets be effective and show it!

PS:

Dyo dear.. don't be worried about this forum.. this is one forum that even if we all have had our difference and we keep it at the door and enjoy the show. The members of this forum are mature enough that they don't let such discussions effect their day to day conversations.

Veena, dear
@bold: TOTALLY endorse that! Completely agree!😊👍🏼
@blue: Seems like I wasnt coherent enough!😆 Am definitely not worried that differences of opinion can in any way diminish our love for the show! That would be too presumptuous to even imagine!😊
Was astounded as to how issues being discussed have now been assigned a "Taxonomy" system!😆
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