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Posted: 14 years ago
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Friends,

We are all, at the end of the day, answerable to our conscience, as to what we believe is right or wrong.

There are some issues in life where it is easy to take a 'right' or 'wrong' stand. Sometimes it is not so easy. One has to be 'realistic' or 'pragmatic'.

Coming to the topic here, some people believe that a public personality's actions/behaviour affect his/her image (whether it is an actor or a sportsperson or a politician).

Some others feel that we should only look at their 'work' and not at their actions which are not related to work.

This debate is not new. It has been going on for ages, so no one individual can put an end to it.

There are so many public personalities, both in contemporary times and in history, whose personal actions and the way they have led their lives is totally different from what they have produced. Great poets, writers, actors etc turn out to be alcoholics, wife-beaters (or husband-beaters, not that I know of any, but), misers, cheats, bigamists, heart breakers, whatever... ofcourse it has not stopped people from enjoying/ appreciating what they have produced be it literature or political strategy or science.

But does it mean other aspects of their lives cannot be debated or questioned? I personally do not think so. I believe it is possible to appreciate an individual's work, and also be simultaneously critical of that individual's views and actions on other issues.

Just like how an individual's behaviour whether done knowingly or ill-advised cannot overshadow his/her work, similarly just because an individual is a great actor or sportsperson or statesman/woman, does not mean his/her behaviour is beyond the public purview.

(by 'behaviour' I mean both words and actions).

I have no problem reading contradictory points of view. I know my position on this topic and I am convinced about it. But that does not mean I only expect to read views that are similar. What I can hope for, as a member of an online forum, is for a civilised way to express those opinions. That is all.

Members should be allowed to voice their views whether the majority or minority likes it or not. They should not use abusive language against the actors or fellow members. But to say, from now onwards this topic shall not be discussed, is not right in a public forum. 'This is going on for a long time. end it' is not the right approach. It will go on as long as the actor in question is in the public eye. In fact, he would be the last person to say 'don't discuss me', LOL... because to an actor, being in the public eye and being talked about is more important than not being talked about.

Whether the talk is all gushing or criticism, is not just upto fans. It takes two to tango. The actor can decide what he/she wants the fans to talk about. He/she can set the agenda.

As for the show, has the show suffered because of the recent happenings? Does anyone have access to Star One TRPs? And if indeed the show has suffered, can IF members alone be held responsible?

The chaskameter readings don't seem to have much impact in terms of TRPs. The show that has been no.1 in IF forever now, does not feature in the top 10 programs on TAM readings, as far as I know. So, while it is good to do what we can for the show, there is no need to get unduly worried about it and get defensive. (I rate the chaskameter everyday, btw).

If, however, there is cause for worry, then whoever has that info should pls disclose it to all members so that everyone knows what is going on.


Edited by tvrasika - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#72
@May:

Once again you have hit the nail on the coffin! We need to concentrate on the show itself.

I truly believe that time can heal the wounds and to be frank it will in time too.

The one thing that arose from this issue, forgive me Veena for going off topic but it is crucial to discuss it, is that I am seeing division of Shanak. Till monday or any other day, I saw people supporting Shanak however that is not the issue anymore. There has been a division that has been created out of this. People are demanding more of Khanak and Yashu footage, which is fine and needed, but it is clearly taking away from the story-line and not giving the RBO team to work on the current track. As much as anyone of us deny or try to deny, it seems this issue has separated Shanak on the forum and I see more people asking or praising Khanak more than Shaan.

I have no problem with Khanak being praised or demanded. I am up for it but it is diverting away from the current story-line and due to our mix-up of personal emotions, we are starting to forget the Shanak brand. We are starting to forget what the story is about at the moment. It seems that patience is running out in all of us or rather some of us and it may cause a hindrance in the track demand. We don't want to go the Rock On way, where the new characters were never developed fully and the old characters were butchered like anything. We don't want that and then complain again.

I really do believe that it would be best to drop this topic and focus on the show now.

I have a sincere request to forget this and focus on Shanak like we did before, asking for a good story-line or appreciate the track that is being shown. I do think we need to show our appreciation now and move on from this topic.

I have patience in this issue and I hope for the best out of it because to me, even though I demand the same that most do from the inside, this issue never diverted me from liking the show or anything related to it. I have patience to believe that soon we will get everything clear.

I am requesting the same from all and forget this issue because the more we talk about this, the more we discuss it, it will put a blindfold on our belief on actors and slowly that feeling will creep in to creating a division between the characters or the Shanak brand, it has started to happen.

So please drop it.

PS: Veena sorry for the change in topic but I have seen that happening here on the forum and off the forum.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#73
WoW !!!
Great Discussions here .. !!
Truly !
@ Doc D , Manita , Veenator , May, Rooj , KrishnaDi , Shriyaa and Others any if I missed .. LOL !!!!!
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 -
Loved to read all POVs !!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#74
rooj everyone is for shanak primarily
but it really pains to see khanak blowing few flying kisses to shaan standing in the back ground doing nothing..😭😭😭
Is that what the character was created for? no definitely not😭
it was not created as a romantic interest alone 😭
so ther is nothing wrong if people /fans ask for improvement in her charactersiation.
.It is good to voice the views before hand so that they would know what should be incorporated..
shanak does not mean shaan/adi...shaan/khushi mostly ..
.it includes khanak too..😊
No one had any suggestions lik this as long as they coped up well with khanaks charactr😊
but recently she is sitting idle..doing nothing. for her own improvement... hugging shaan crying blowing flying kisses etc.,
.then it really hurts the fans...last week fully adi/shaan..(dahi handi and ll that)
this week shaan/khushi...what is going on?
we are all primarily for shanak😊no second thoughts on that
..that means equal footage for both shaan and khanak that is it😊
Not shaan/adi shaan/khushi /shaan/x shaan /y...
where is khanak figuring in such scenes ?
then..is she to stand at some back door nodding😭/smiling etc.
, please understand the spirit in which the post is put.
.No division on shanak ...but dont make it shaans story either that is it ..and I should not say this
but yet i am telling padosan show that lead jodi character is the one around which all stories are planned
why cant it be in RBO too?
why is it either shaan/or khanak now a days mostly shaan
..shaan handling adi/shaan handling khushi/shaan struggling etc.,
when will the cvs consider khanak equally with shaan like padosan show😭
anyway I am waiitng patiently 😊
Edited by sshriyaa84 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#75
shriya awesome post:)
totally agreed
i feel khanak has lots to do in d coming weeks though nothing much now but as per ytr point of view totally understand wat u mean...let d message b spread to d cvs n im sure they will wrk on it

but just a thought let cvs show wat they wanna rather than all d time telling them wats missing
as a viewer v should give uggestions n all but mainly let them wrk on it i believe...
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Posted: 14 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: rooj-i

@May:


Once again you have hit the nail on the coffin! We need to concentrate on the show itself.

I truly believe that time can heal the wounds and to be frank it will in time too.

The one thing that arose from this issue, forgive me Veena for going off topic but it is crucial to discuss it, is that I am seeing division of Shanak. Till monday or any other day, I saw people supporting Shanak however that is not the issue anymore. There has been a division that has been created out of this. People are demanding more of Khanak and Yashu footage, which is fine and needed, but it is clearly taking away from the story-line and not giving the RBO team to work on the current track. As much as anyone of us deny or try to deny, it seems this issue has separated Shanak on the forum and I see more people asking or praising Khanak more than Shaan.

I have no problem with Khanak being praised or demanded. I am up for it but it is diverting away from the current story-line and due to our mix-up of personal emotions, we are starting to forget the Shanak brand. We are starting to forget what the story is about at the moment. It seems that patience is running out in all of us or rather some of us and it may cause a hindrance in the track demand. We don't want to go the Rock On way, where the new characters were never developed fully and the old characters were butchered like anything. We don't want that and then complain again.

I really do believe that it would be best to drop this topic and focus on the show now.

I have a sincere request to forget this and focus on Shanak like we did before, asking for a good story-line or appreciate the track that is being shown. I do think we need to show our appreciation now and move on from this topic.

I have patience in this issue and I hope for the best out of it because to me, even though I demand the same that most do from the inside, this issue never diverted me from liking the show or anything related to it. I have patience to believe that soon we will get everything clear.

I am requesting the same from all and forget this issue because the more we talk about this, the more we discuss it, it will put a blindfold on our belief on actors and slowly that feeling will creep in to creating a division between the characters or the Shanak brand, it has started to happen.

So please drop it.

PS: Veena sorry for the change in topic but I have seen that happening here on the forum and off the forum.




as usual you are right rooj! that is exactly what and why we want a stronger role for khanak. because of KT and his personal issues. that's exactly right! YM has no entity or fan following of her own.what we wish for her as fans must always be directly or indirectly proportional to how we feel about KT and about how we can get at him!


ummm i am gonna let veena answer this.



Edited by zennnn - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#77
@shriya: yes Khanak has a lot to do in the coming week but let me ask you this: how long has it been since the track started? we are behaving the same way like we did last time and if we continue then obv. we will go the RO way.

but my point is that this issue is actually bringing a lot of people to create a post each day about Khanak or yashu being sidelined.

I have no problem with yashu's fan increasing but as long as it doesn't affect Shanak however it is affecting them both ways.

either way I felt that and i saw that everywhere and hence I made that point.

@Zenny: how convenient...knew you would come after me...but you answered it yourself. just so u know, im not doing a personal dig at you. its a general observation

honestly I said i don't care if yashu's fan increase but I don't want Shanak brand to go down the drain.

I'll let Veena handle this too.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rooj-i

@shriya: yes Khanak has a lot to do in the coming week but let me ask you this: how long has it been since the track started? we are behaving the same way like we did last time and if we continue then obv. we will go the RO way.


but my point is that this issue is actually bringing a lot of people to create a post each day about Khanak or yashu being sidelined.

I have no problem with yashu's fan increasing but as long as it doesn't affect Shanak however it is affecting them both ways.

either way I felt that and i saw that everywhere and hence I made that point.

@Zenny: how convenient...knew you would come after me...but you answered it yourself. just so u know, im not doing a personal dig at you. its a general observation

honestly I said i don't care if yashu's fan increase but I don't want Shanak brand to go down the drain.

I'll let Veena handle this too.




actually i never said you were taking a dig at me alone. you were referring to all khanak fans and so was i.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Okay I could not resist myself from asking this ... Sorry if it hurts anyone !

Since when has it become Shaan Fans vs Khanak Fans ?
Since when has RBO viewership gone the Divided Way ?
Since when has Love for Individual Characters Surpassed Love for Shanak?
And Why ?
I Thought that Everyone here loves RBO for Shanak .. and Not Shaan or Khanak Individually !
I am a Shanak Fan .. I am a Shaan as well as a Khanak Fan !!!
It hurts to See Shaan Not Working as Much as it Hurts To See Khanak become a Mere Onlooker !!!
May Be I am wrong .. But Reading ALL posts thats how it seems ...
How can anyone NOT like Both ... How can anyone like One better than the Other ?
Edited by rbo_d_best - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Mmm...I would have never posted again...after resting my case😆

If it wasn't directed to me...
Sorry Veena for this as I need to clarify certain things that Dyo has raised again shifting focus from the main issue !!!
I'll try to be concise and clear😃

Originally posted by: dr.dsr



Well...Sorry! But seems like you still havent got the point, Manita! 😊 The bottom line is you do not (and I presume so😆) mislead your patients into believing that you are a plastic surgeon, while your area of expertise may actually be dermatology!😊

You don't need to presume Dyo...I can't mislead patients on professional front...no one can...it is clearly written outside my cabin below my name..."Consultant Dermatologist" ...but my relationship status is not written there in brackets..."Married/Single/Dating😆

Of course, nobody needs to come out and make any comments about his/her relationship status! That is ludicrous to even expect!!😆 The core issue may be a non issue for you, KTs 'single' status posted by the man himself on his fanpage notwithstanding😆...but believe you me...is defo not the case with many, the admin of KTs fanpage herself being a case in point!👏
KT page admin is not a judge in civil court...she is another fan😃😃


Guess those who claim to not be emotionally attached to him 'cos he's an 'unknown person', and still post links of threads on his fanpage, do it for the love of his craft alone!!🤣
As regards "Leave it and move on"...hmmm...kinda sounds familiar..."Let Bygones be Bygones" or so did I say!😆

Posting link on someone's page or praising him or criticising him where one can read is not emotional attachment...it is openly showing the support / concern (as the need be ) on a social networking site...I will continue to do so...as I am proudly a fan of KT and YM and am not confused about it...I am just a 'fan'...and I know my limitations... that's it !!


If I can speak for myself, have been one of the most die-hard Odhanians that can ever be...in fact can pride myself at being certified as amongst the most earnest ShaNak fans by friends who are closest to me!😳
Unlike a certain few, who claim to leave the forum as and how it suits them, having had their fill with RBO...only to resurface again as per their whims and fancies!😃
As regards, the show...that has been a constant in EVERYBODY'S posts...Thank God for small mercies, really!😃

Okay this one is interesting...leaving the forum when there is nothing positive to write about a senseless track and showing concern at every possible place...still trying to catch up on every episode and support the show is better than lingering on the forum just to air negative opinions, writing masterpieces but proudly claiming that they have stopped watching the show since so and so many months...I don't want to take names of people who do so...to embarrass them but everyone knows them...we need to define correctly !
I don't need to prove my loyalities ( as May also said) towards Odhani and Shanak to anyone...and I mean it...No One Has The Right To Question The Other Here !!!
For once...No one is a celebrity here and no one is accountable to others here
🤣 !!

Hard to get to each other's POV...from my side I rest my case here !!!!
Guess, my message is loud and clear, too!😊
Let's just agree to disagree!😊
Rest my case, too!!😃
Please let's move back to the show !!

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