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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: saaaz


chup be...making fun of me???😆...see the fact of the matter is I am very happy that there is a storyline finally...but there is a tall order to go with that storyline....

TREATMENT shall be key to everlasting enjoyment....can this track make us want to go back and watch the scenes again and again....like Golden RBO? Ummmm.....the jury is out on that...lets wait and watch

I think the MMS looming over us can only be solved by Bobbitting Rahul


i was wondering bout the same thing the other day...so far i haven't felt it yet...

neways im out will be back in like half hour...

c ya!
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: dr.dsr

Hey Aditi....

Wanted to comment on 3 things before I go further on my CC post-reading spree😆
1) The whole 'inspiration' thing.....deffo noteworthy......being actually inspired by a concept and weaving it into the narrative is applauseworthy, but for a product as original and as promising as RBO, this aspect needs to be better thought out!!.....case in point.....the current Swades track....only wish the whole transformation of the carefree Shaan to the insightful Shaan would have been better spaced-out; even his expressions on giving away the samosas to the children was only of delight followed by realisation of his sense of hunger....and the very next epi has him mouthing lines like "meri toh bhook hi mar gayi!!!"
2) JVM is one of my all time fav 'love stories' too!!!😊 Kareena's OTTness completely internalised (seems to be my favorite word these days!😉) and absolutely fluid, and Shahid's calm demanor....the perfect foil to Kareena's madness!!
3) KTs post-proposal debacle confrontation scene.....definitely features in my TOP 3 Shaan scenes of RBO...the whole intense, angry, jilted lover thing.....what poise....what restraint....what a mature performance to put it simply!!!👏 Yashu, I thought, was actually very good in this sequence...the whole tremble in her voice thing....classic!!! In fact her emoting complimented his histrionics quite brilliantly!! She goofed up though big-time in her monologue in the post-proposal kitchen sequence....very superficially done, that!!! Since we're discussing KTs intense avatar, would like to mention a scene which brings out his intense yet vulnerable facet brilliantly well.....the recent poolside sequence with Khanak during the Sunny track which, IMO, is his best thus far!!! There are some moments of absolute brilliance in that sequence.....moments that he will be proud to grow old with!!!👏


Hey Doc D!
Red-exactly what I thought! It was too hurried which took away from my enjoyment of it.But if they want to wrap up the whole track in a week tou this is expected😔

And as for poolside scene-I felt KT and YM were both brilliant in that.In fact the Sunny track might have failed as a track but it gave us quite a few great scenes by KT-YM.Scenes where their acting AND chemistry is just so out there-the hospital reunion, the poolside scene, the in bed scene with the radio...
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: dr.dsr

Hey Aditi....

Wanted to comment on 3 things before I go further on my CC post-reading spree😆
1) The whole 'inspiration' thing.....deffo noteworthy......being actually inspired by a concept and weaving it into the narrative is applauseworthy, but for a product as original and as promising as RBO, this aspect needs to be better thought out!!.....case in point.....the current Swades track....only wish the whole transformation of the carefree Shaan to the insightful Shaan would have been better spaced-out; even his expressions on giving away the samosas to the children was only of delight followed by realisation of his sense of hunger....and the very next epi has him mouthing lines like "meri toh bhook hi mar gayi!!!"
2) JVM is one of my all time fav 'love stories' too!!!😊 Kareena's OTTness completely internalised (seems to be my favorite word these days!😉) and absolutely fluid, and Shahid's calm demanor....the perfect foil to Kareena's madness!!
3) KTs post-proposal debacle confrontation scene.....definitely features in my TOP 3 Shaan scenes of RBO...the whole intense, angry, jilted lover thing.....what poise....what restraint....what a mature performance to put it simply!!!👏 Yashu, I thought, was actually very good in this sequence...the whole tremble in her voice thing....classic!!! In fact her emoting complimented his histrionics quite brilliantly!! She goofed up though big-time in her monologue in the post-proposal kitchen sequence....very superficially done, that!!! Since we're discussing KTs intense avatar, would like to mention a scene which brings out his intense yet vulnerable facet brilliantly well.....the recent poolside sequence with Khanak during the Sunny track which, IMO, is his best thus far!!! There are some moments of absolute brilliance in that sequence.....moments that he will be proud to grow old with!!!⭐️👏⭐️👏

Can anyone say it better than you?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Case in point: Blue!
I want the post-proposal Shaan yaar
I REALLY do!😭
Gosh what a perfect combination of handsome looks and great emoting it was!
I will have to disagree, I didnt care for YM in that at all
But I do like her in many more
Similarly post-Sunny, KT's acting has taken a beating
I want that SPONTANEITY back
He is capable of awesome things
I want us to see it all
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Posted: 14 years ago
@DYO...could not agree with you more on RBO choosing to adapt swades being noteworthy...my only worry is again biting more than you can chew...we cannot seem to trust these CVs at all.,.becos they just don't "treat it right"... they rush when they should slow down and drag their feet when they should move it along.... in the whole process loose focus and fans...


Edited by saaaz - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
Hello ladies *waves*
Have been trying since afternoon to post something about the epi as watched it late afternoon...but mom duty..and other stuff kept me from posting...
Loved loved loved the whole Shanak scene...a mature talk at last after a very long time indeed...loved theat ...but the CV's really mess up one or the other...or as some mentioned the dialogue by Khnak was because she does not trudt Mnagal at all..and fears him doing harm to Shaan ans she promised her in-laws to take good care of him...😕😆 or the CV's messed up...with her lines...again...
Loved KT through out he truly rocked...great acting reall....hes back as Shantanu Khandelwal he one we all loved and fell in love with...👏👏👏
Mangal...this guy is wicked...he was wicked before too adn we loved to hate him and we are loving him now too....😆😆😆😆
Sunil-Madzs cute...😆😆
Over all a good epi...except for RJ scene that looks like another show all togehter that we are made to bear....😡🤢
Everythig e;se was beauifully analysised and duiscussed by all of you lovely ladies ...loved reading your take...*muwah*
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: -SYS-

Okay a bit late.

Just wanted to mention some things that struck me/made an impact.

The sharp turnabouts these characters produce when needed-Shaan going from completely clueless to extremely mature and worried about the Dhulwadi villagers and their problems and feeling like he owes them something.
And if he has to go on a guilt trip can he go on one regarding the whole infidelity issue first?Or at least simultaneously?

The inability of the writers to portray Shaan and Khanak as strong individual characters simultaneously- Khanak asking Shaan to return home just because he gave 2 samosas to the kid?Back to Mumbai?Even though her home village is suffering?I wouldn't mind her giving him food but this is too extreme!

Despite all my issues with the character portrayal liked the Shaan-Khanak scene.Its the first step towards a more mature Shanak.I just hope they retain their Shanak-ness though.
Oh and loved that few seconds close up we got towards the end when they face each other.It was un-intensely intense.

Sunil-Madz are the cutest buddhas! I just hope RBO doesn't go on to caricaturize their characters.

Mangal-Shaan-Sarpanch scene: Miss Pankaj Dheer.Thank god things are making sense now-them going to the Sarpanch first was very realistic.
Love Mangal! He might not be the AG but I love this guy all the same.
Loved how they ended it with hot-headed Shaan.

@ Yumna: Lines in bold.....So absolutely bang-on!!!👏👏👏
For a product (read: RBO) which holds so much potential....and for a track (read:Swades) which is undoubtedly a milestone in Hindi cinema.....a lot more thought can be put into making Dhulwadi part 2 eternally memorable!!
Moreover, as Shaan and Khanak are such 'human' characters, why cant they 'grow' simultaneously??!! Why cant ShaNak's groW*H be synergistic to one another and not independent of one another is my question???
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Posted: 14 years ago
@Saaz
Would I ever DARE make fun of you?!

@all
Have to go.
Lets hope I can actually stay awake today and be back in an hour or so in time for episode analysis.
Sigh.
🤗

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Posted: 14 years ago
"The ability to connect with the audience"
is a very RARE quality Doc D
KT has that......... naturally.
He needs to build on it
Case in point: the Swades dhoti scenes
Two shades of brilliance:
"Na--- nahi hoon yaar main"
"Nahi nahi dhoti to main har din kaam par pehankar jaata hoon, kabhi dekha nahi tumne"
EVERY time I watch it, I laugh!
That was a class act!
HE does not NEED to do a SRK or a Sallu impersonation!
Period!
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Posted: 14 years ago
Why cant ShaNak's groW*H be synergistic to one another and not independent of one another is my question???

AH DocD...this has been my problem with this couple ever since Rock On....

We had this whole back and forth on the towel holding Khanak to singing Shaan...it seems like groW*H can only happen for one at a time


this goes back to writing...this is why I firmly believe Goradiyas shall make a difference...the thing is the story writer is only setting the scene,,, whereas the dialoguewallahs are making sure that the characters grow at the same time...

GroW*H between the two,,,for the two...was best shown in the dhabba scenes....

in that track...Khanak grows to value Shaan and Shaan grows to value himself...


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Posted: 14 years ago
Oh and just wanted to add...hate them sweeping the trust issue completely under the carpert just as they sweeped the whole MMS issue....God...thats the only thing that takes away from enjoying this new turn ...
@Aditee...great question...why adapt from well known movies .....why not the ones who did not do great...Vaishu gave a good answer to that ..easy for the whole PH & Channel to get the hwole concept without dewelling into it...to the audience....
But there is always a big fall back to this..people comparing the movies well done loved scene with the one presented in the show...lets see ...how they execute it and present it..tough job rally...
It truly would have been better to take scenes ..an incoporate in the original story..but looks like the CV's are creatively impaired all of a sudden...or the new ones lack brains to come up with unique theme..story or track.
@Vaishu, Saaz, Dyo, Yumna & Rooj loved lvoed reading all your take....

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