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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hey dears
I think it has been told through a number of posts that Tashu is a ice girl and nobody hates her as
a person,
But what people hate is her annoying behaviour as a girl friend.
She tries to over do her love for shaan and tries to stick like fevicol.
Now let me reason out why people dislike her.For the benefit of people who think we are not gud to Natasha.
This is not a such ka saamna.There are no lie detectors.
Just people who say what natasha is doing at present is right answer the following
1Natasha keeps on saying she loves shaan.,she trusts him
.If that is so why should she be with shaan in the same house.She can let him free instead of watching and eaves dropping.
Why should she forsake her family honour,dignity and self respect by staying in shaan's house before their marriage.?She can wait for six months.What do u think?
ANS: .She can't trust shaan even for six months.Subconsciously she is worried about letting shaan/khanak come closer lest something happen.That means her claims trusting shaan is not fully correct.
2.How is she as a girl friend?
Even in the most intimate relationship there needs to be a minimum space for each.She never gives shaan that space.I mean she is suffocating shaan too much by beingwith him all time.
Is she a true girl friend?
ANS: No.She treats him like a baby needing attention all the time which is not true.He needs to grow up.
Shaan was happy even without her the other night(Infact much happier).
Further if she is really interested in his welfare she should pinpoint his bad aspects without any biase.
She has never done that.Infact she never even asked him about joining hisfamily business.
She helped after wards but not for the first take off.
3.She is educated,from a business family.
Temporarily atleast she can divert her mind by attending to her dad's office.
All she does is carry lunch for shaan ,stand behind and watch shaan talk with khanak,do shaan jap 24/7 saying I love u shaan,I trust u.
Will anybody like such unproductiveness ?
ANS:.Nobody will like it.Even shaan himself(Subconsciously will dislike it)
Neither she does some household work nor attends any office( atleast as a time pass)
All she does is to cry for shaan all th time.
4.Does she have friendly aspect?
ANS:No. she has never been a plain friend apart from GF with whom shaan can confide
smallest of things,without being misunderstood,laugh together,have fun together,pull legs,
cry,have meaningless fights, sweet nothings.THIS IS A BIG FLAW.
5.Her romantic scenes with shaan .ANY comments.
ANS:No chemistry whatsoever.(Whether everyone agrees or not).
Her smile so unreal.Shaan looks uncomfortable(atleast to me) with her as though when it will
be over.,when will she leave.?
It is mechanical with no freshness.Highly robotic.
Now tell me showing her on screen for most of the episode will it interest people in any way.?
Answer honestly I leave it to u.
It is only her consuming unwanted screen space and time which is irriating us.Otherwise she is good.
Reg.khanak being asked to forget suraj:
THEY ARE NOT SHOWING ANY FLASHBACK SCENES WHATSOEVER OF SURAJ/KHANAK
SINCE A VERY LONG TIME.EVEN KHANAK DOES NOT MENTION IT OR TALK ABOUT HIM
EVEN WHEN ALONE (EXCEPT A COUPLE OF TIMES).
SHE SEEMS TO HAVE REALISED THAT
AT PRESENT SHE NEEDS TO DO HER DUTIES AS A BAHU/wife in Mr.K's house.
She swallows her sorrow and tries to fulfill her role.
If shaan falls for khanak and khanak also feels the same I (we) am/(are) sure that she would honestly accept him
After all she understood the situation and agreed for remarriage.,this is no matter.She would definitely forget suraj and accept shaan once she realises that the love which he had for tashu
was puppy love and it was khanak who is his soulmate.
SHE ALSO FEELS SHE SHOULD NOT BE A BLOCK IN NATASHA/SHAAN'S LOVE.
But in due course if shaan falls for her and declares his love most people are sure she would
definitely be honest and reciprocate the same if she also feels the same.She would definiely get over suraj without so much fuss.
After all she did agree for second marriage when she realised the true condition of suraj's famaily and she needed to act according to the need.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hi shriya ,
thanks yaar for taking out your precious time to write this essay . I hope your fingers r fine . But dear my post was for Shayali . But it was a great reply for sure though a bit long one. Ok shriya just cool down & lets not get into any further arguments
Well if u can take so much pain to write this then how can I disrespect u by not replying back.
1. about trust :::- Well dear please see the initial episides u will remember that it is shaan who needed tashu's support & since tashu loves him she is there for him. Ok regarding trust ofcourse tashu trust shaan thats why she has never questioned him or has ever doubted his love for her but dear she is a human at first so it is easy to use the word " trust " than to actually put in real life.By the way she is not staying here coz she dont trust him she is here coz shaan needed her.
2. not giving space to shaan ::- Well dear has shaan ever complained or shown any symptom that she ' suffocates ' him(what a word ) or whatever u use those bombastic words.As far I am concerned there is always a smile in shaan face when he sees tashu at least till now .
3. regarding romantic scenes with shaan ::- Ok here I definitely agree with u that there is absolutely no chemistry between them but dear we r not talking about chemistry . i think we r discussing about shaan - tashu as lovers onscreen. And tell me 1 scene where shaan 's expressions looks uncomfortable with her I mean why a boyfriend will feel uncomfortable with her girlfriend while hugging or sharing any romantic moments . Now dont tell me they have no chemistry again coz that is a didifferent issue I am only talking only as per the current story line.
4. about khanak/suraj flashbacks not shown ::- well let me just remind u friend that suraj is dead but tashu is still alive .Now if khanak can still remember suraj & does everything & has to bear all pains & scoldings etc when he is no more then how can u expect from shaan or tashu to forget each other so easily .moreover khanak is doing all this for suraj only right .
Well regarding your other complaints I think they r very silly so u can contact the CVs for that.
But yes from now onwards I feel shanak should get more importance than natasha - shaan else it will be very monotonous & stagnant . Tashu character must take a backseat from now on & she should leave the house to keep the story moving. But till last week it was convincing enough.
Trust me I am also a shanak supporter & want more of them but to me the current story & situations r more vital . Everything has its time dear . OK now my fingers r paining writing these . gud nit & please continue your unbiased opinion & bash natasha( I think she is the first + ve character who is facing thrashings).
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I think that most everyone has answered all your questions as to why the majority of us donot like Natasha....though Hate is to strong a word...as I donot hate her...feel sorry for her but she needs to move on...or atleast take time to think and wait.
If she really really trusted him, loved him...she would have and could have waited 6 months till the divorce was final and he was free of Khanak. Why does she need to stay with him and pamper him ?????How many woman in love whose BF ended up married move in with their married BF?????? Where is herself respect???? And being educated , etc of the world can't she keep herself busy by working etc??? Be there for him...but please 24/7 all the time with Shan...is too much...even people in love for real or even married ppl donot co exist with one an other 24/7...this all just goes to show how truly insecure she is and that she is not sure of her love or his....thus how can we love or like her????
Whats irritating to me is her constant smile, talking to herself all the time about Shan...and how much he loves her and she trust him...does give me migraines and her over the top sweetness....has started to give me diabaties....😉😆😆😆😆😆
As for Khanak, she does not keep harping about Suraj 24/7 does she....in the beginning too she missed him and why not he dies the next day of her marriage and they did not even get to meet each other till she sees his dead body...but even in grief she was selfless to think of his family etc. She was even ready to marry Mulji....for her family honor etc...so when she married Shan...she did it to save his life and her families honor, she was ready to be a wife . She knows how much Shan loves Natasha and does not want to come in between them ...making her feel all guilty even in spending some time with Shan. This shows how much integrity and self respect she has.
Thus us liking Khanak more then Natasha.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sayali_babes

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😆you are saying this ONLY coz ShaNak are the leads, right?😆


btw...if Natasha does not deserve careless person like Shaan, then why would poor Khanak deserve him?😆


and thirdly, Tashu's dad is not right...its his daughter's life, let her decide. Why interfereing forcibly there.😛

hey, i m not saying this b'coz shanak r leads.... i think tashu is also a lead ..............i just can't understand why can't v hv 2 love stories going on simultaneously......
tashu with sm1.....else & shanak.......
& yes, i never said shaan is good for khanak.... on d contrary i said i feel sorry for khanak..... by that i meant that she didn't deserve such self- centered & irresponsible person like shaan atleast not as husband.....as friend shaan is gr8...........
& yes i said that tashu's father is right ......here i meant that tashu 's father is right in thinking that shaan is irresponsible & any dad wuld not want his daughter to get married to a guy who is not at all matured......but i don't agree in the means he is trying to seperate tashan(tashu & shaan).....
i really don't hate tashu....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sayali_babes

why the hell is everyone hating on her- i mean - she LOVES Shantanu, and is insecure, come on, if you had a boyfriend and he got married to some other gal, then how would you feel. Or would you just hand over your boyfriend in a platter.😛😆


i am in full sympathy to Natasha.😊



i like ur topic.. no need to hate natasha.. i just think she's a lil pathetic.. honestly, i've never fell in love but i think that if i was in her position, i'd leave.. i mean why should i complicate my life for u.. i mean even she knows that khanak isn't bad.. i mean.. u have to put it all in perspective.. shaan killed suraj.. so how can she expect khanak to let it go that easily.. would u let the killer of ur husband go free? no.. and in my perspective.. if u ruined my life by not letting me have my love, u really think i'm gonna let u have urs.. poor natz for being part of this but i'd just leave and try to move on..
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: shriya84

Hey dears

I think it has been told through a number of posts that Tashu is a ice girl and nobody hates her as
a person,
But what people hate is her annoying behaviour as a girl friend.
She tries to over do her love for shaan and tries to stick like fevicol.
Now let me reason out why people dislike her.For the benefit of people who think we are not gud to Natasha.
This is not a such ka saamna.There are no lie detectors.
Just people who say what natasha is doing at present is right answer the following
1Natasha keeps on saying she loves shaan.,she trusts him
.If that is so why should she be with shaan in the same house.She can let him free instead of watching and eaves dropping.
Why should she forsake her family honour,dignity and self respect by staying in shaan's house before their marriage.?She can wait for six months.What do u think?
ANS: .She can't trust shaan even for six months.Subconsciously she is worried about letting shaan/khanak come closer lest something happen.That means her claims trusting shaan is not fully correct.
Okay, tell me ONE thing- if You were in her place, would you not feel insecure??? NOBODY can trust someone to THIS extent - Shantanu is afterall a MAN, and hence cannot be trusted completely when there is another woman living with him ALL THE TIME. Besides, tell me WHICH girlfriend would be comfy with the idea of having a second woman living chipkao ALL the time with her Bf.....would you?? Everyone would feel insecure in such a situation.

2.How is she as a girl friend?
Even in the most intimate relationship there needs to be a minimum space for each.She never gives shaan that space.I mean she is suffocating shaan too much by beingwith him all time.
Is she a true girl friend?
ANS: No.She treats him like a baby needing attention all the time which is not true.He needs to grow up.\

well, this, i have to say, is purely a figment of your imagination. In Dhoolwadi, he kept pining for Natasha and wishing she were with him (remember his flashbacks with her)? In his house in Mumbai, he cant seem to live for a minute without Natasha in front of him...in Office too, he talks to Natash'a pic in front of him....he even said that he'll KILL HIMSELF if Natasha leaves him...so your point is untrue.
Shaan was happy even without her the other night(Infact much happier).
Further if she is really interested in his welfare she should pinpoint his bad aspects without any biase.
She has never done that.Infact she never even asked him about joininghisfamily business.
She helped after wards but not for the first take off.

Well, how is that a base for making Natasha leave Shaan? Do you think that when Khanak becomes Shaan's love interest, she will help him with business? i dont understand how business part makes Natasha a bad girlfriend. Here you are forcibly making up points.
3.She is educated,from a business family.
Temporarily atleast she can divert her mind by attending to her dad's office.
All she does is carry lunch for shaan ,stand behind and watch shaan talk with khanak,do shaan jap 24/7 saying I love u shaan,I trust u.
Will anybody like such unproductiveness ?

How is Khanak productive, in your opinion? All she does in cook and clean.......besides, Ive already said, in such a situation EVERYBODY becomes insecure.😆
ANS:.Nobody will like it.Even shaan himself(Subconsciously will dislike it)
Neither she does some household work norattends any office( atleast as a time pass)
All she does is to cry for shaan all th time.
4.Does she have friendly aspect?
ANS:No. she has never been a plain friend apart from GF with whomshaan can confide
smallest of things,without being misunderstood,laugh together,have fun together,pull legs,
cry,have meaningless fights, sweet nothings.THIS IS A BIG FLAW.

This point is again, baseless, and a figment of imagination. Shaan and Natasha love each other, without a doubt...therefore, whatever problems or limitations they might have, it still does not change the fact that THEY are in love, and not Shaan and Khanak. every human being has flaws- but thats not a reason for them to be deprived of love.
5.Her romantic scenes with shaan .ANY comments.

I think they have chemistry...and i dont think that chemistry is a thing that can be debated...because opinions differ...and besides, as i have said, they are in love- thats what matters. Btw, can you tell me what chemistry Khanak and Shantanu share? In real life, they would be the worst-adjusted couple, Khanak has no education, no modern mannerisms, no idea of the complexities of city life....this is a serial, but in reality such two polar opposites can never share any chemistry....besides, your poits and manner of pointing out her flaws validates my arguement that people like and support ShaNak ONLY and Only BECAUSE THEY'RE THE leads.
ANS:No chemistry whatsoever.(Whether everyone agrees or not).
Her smile so unreal.Shaan looks uncomfortable(atleast to me) with her as though when it will
be over.,when will she leave.?
It is mechanical with no freshness.Highly robotic.
Now tell me showing her on screen for most of the episode will it interest people in any way.?
Answer honestly I leave it to u.
It is only her consuming unwanted screen space and time which is irriating us.Otherwise she is good.
Reg.khanak being asked to forget suraj:
THEY ARE NOT SHOWING ANY FLASHBACK SCENES WHATSOEVER OF SURAJ/KHANAK
SINCE A VERY LONG TIME.EVEN KHANAK DOES NOT MENTION IT OR TALK ABOUT HIM
EVEN WHEN ALONE (EXCEPT A COUPLE OF TIMES).
SHE SEEMS TO HAVE REALISED THAT
AT PRESENT SHE NEEDS TO DO HER DUTIES AS ABAHU/wife in Mr.K's house.
She swallows her sorrow and tries to fulfill her role.
If shaan falls for khanak and khanak also feels the same I (we) am/(are) sure that she would honestly accept him
After all she understood the situation and agreed for remarriage.,this is no matter.She would definitely forget suraj and accept shaan once she realises that the love which he had for tashu
was puppy love andit was khanak who is his soulmate.

PUPPY LOVE it was definitely not, sowwie....puppy love is crush or infatuation which people have in their childhoods...knowing a person for a definite period of time and having an emotional connect with them is true love, not puppy love...If it was puppy love, then we'd have to call ALL the lovey-dovey other television couples as puppy lovers, besides, Shaan-Tashu have had LOTS of emotional connect moments, regarding trust, relationships, etc... So this point is also not valid....dont make up points like this please.

MY POINTS IN RED- HOPE THIS ANSWERS YOUR QUERIES.😛

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Edited by sayali_babes - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hi rborockss
In ur post to sayali had mentioned 99%of the people are blind supporters of khanak and they do not feel natasha is good.(something on those lines).
That indirectly means people including me.(and we definitely are not blind supporters)
that is Why I chose to spend my precious time.and reply.for the general hurting comment.
It looks as if there are some people who inspite of repeatedly being told that nobody hates natasha as a person rather they dislike her annoying behaviour do not seem to accept it.
I think these people should know that there exists a boundary line even in the closest of relationships.That is what makes relationships beautiful.
Nobody can co exist with anyone 24/7 and demonstrate their love.This is totally unreal.
Btw I come to the conclusion that according to these people that the best way of winning over a boyfriend (who wants to marry u after a legal divorce) is to pack ur bags and baggage move to his house,stay and watch over him, not caring about dignity,self respect etc.,Wow.
These people think that Self Honour can be forsaken for love and that person should be admired because she is tsupposed to be otally devoted to her boyfriend.
By the way the boyfriend did not ask her to move in to his house and support her.Support can be given from outside also. There is no doubt that she is totally insecure.
Sorry,I cannot just digest her staying there for any reason.Leave alone the love.
Well., no two people think the same.It is upto the people to judge on their own.
Reg.Mr.Mogambo everyone knows he is bad and he is expected to torture khanak.So there is
no point in advising a negative man to turn good.That is why people are not commenting on this.
And also khanak has legal rights to stay for six months and hence people feel she should not be sent out of the house.(That people want shanak scenes also one reason)
Next point one would not explicitly tell he/she is uncomfortable with a person but the small nuances and expressions on face are more than enough to show this.Actions speak louder than words.
If u watch the director showing shaan/natasha scenes of late u can surely find that shaan is not
the way he used to be.Also he had not experienced any other girl's nearness so he was unable to judge his comfort level.,before to the night he spent with khanak.
He wanted to tell natasha the truth because she loved him.,he never mentioned" I love her so much .,I must tell her the truth "etc.,This is a subtle change which he himself is unaware of.
It was clearly visible that after khanak's nearness he felt more comfortable talking to khanak than natasha..
To summarise Nobody hates natasha.People only dislike her ways of expressing love which they feel is overdone.
Again I do not know if u would take it in the real sense.If u do not like forgive me.
Well it is a week end and hence I had no problem in writing long replies.
Anyway thanx for valuing my time
with love
shriya.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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HEY SAYALI ,
I must tell u what a comeback yaar. i mean your answers to miss Shriya was spot on . It is the most perfect answers to all the desperate shanak fans .I really appreciate u girl especially the " figment of imagination part " it was bang on yaar. But I dont think it would have made sense to her and others coz for them shanak comes first and then the current track. It was really nice to see some realistic comments .
But i guess fro now onwards things will change . Shanak will be friends now so they will come close for sure & seeing this tashu will understand that shaan is no more her property. So this will be great to watch coz I also want shanak track to kickstart but in a convincing way.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Hi dears

Now read this and tell who is imagining.
WHEN SHAAN'S LIFE WAS IN DANGER.,HE DID NOT THINK OF DYING FOR THE SAKE OF NATASHA'SLOVE.HE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD OF MARRYING SOME X GIRL.
BUT HE WANTED TO LIVE.
INSTEAD HE CHOSE TO MARRY AND SOMEHOW SAVE HIS LIFE.
SO ALL HIS CLAIMS OF HIM GETTING HIMSELF KILLED IF HE DID NOT GET NATASHA ARE TOTALLY FRM THE MOUTH AND NOT FROM THE HEART.
THIS INCIDENT ALONE IS ENOUGH TO SHOW THAT THEIRS IS NOT THAT MUCH DEEP LOVE.
NATASHA KA PATA NAHIN,BUT SHAAN DEFINITELY CAN LIVE WITHOUT HER.
I can give replies with a bang for all of ur replies but I do not like the way in which I am being understood.
Dear rborockss,(addressed to )sayali
I dislike all ur sarcastic remarks.I did not take any names of any members yet u have mentioned my name.,and made fun.
with love
shriya.
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Originally posted by: shriya84

Hi rborockss

In ur post to sayali had mentioned 99%of the people are blind supporters of khanak and they do not feel natasha is good.(something on those lines).
That indirectly means people including me.(and we definitely are not blind supporters)
that is Why I chose to spend my precious time.and reply.for the general hurting comment.
It looks as if there are some people who inspite of repeatedly being told that nobody hates natasha as a person rather they dislike her annoying behaviour do not seem to accept it.
I think these people should know that there exists a boundary line even in the closest of relationships.That is what makes relationships beautiful.
Nobody can co exist with anyone 24/7 and demonstrate their love.This is totally unreal.
Btw I come to the conclusion that according to these people that the best way of winning over a boyfriend (who wants to marry u after a legaldivorce) is to pack ur bags and baggage move to his house,stay and watch over him, not caring about dignity,self respect etc.,Wow.
These people think thatSelf Honour can be forsaken for love and that person should be admired because she is tsupposed to be otally devoted to her boyfriend.
By the way the boyfriend did not ask her to move in to his house and support her.Support can be given from outside also. There is no doubt that she is totally insecure.
Sorry,I cannot just digest her staying there forany reason.Leave alone the love.
Well., no two people think the same.It is upto the people to judge on their own.
Reg.Mr.Mogambo everyone knows he is bad and he is expected to torture khanak.So there is
no point in advising a negative man to turn good.That is why people are not commenting on this.
And also khanak has legal rights to stay for six months and hence people feel she should not be sent out of the house.(That people want shanak scenesalso one reason)
Next point one would not explicitly tell he/she is uncomfortable with a person but thesmall nuances and expressions on face are more than enough to show this.Actions speak louder than words.
If u watch the director showing shaan/natasha scenes of late u can surely find that shaan is not
the way he used to be.Also he had not experienced any other girl's nearness so he was unable to judge his comfort level.,before to the night he spent with khanak.
He wanted to tell natasha the truth because she loved him.,he never mentioned" I love her so much .,I must tell her the truth "etc.,This is a subtle change which he himself is unaware of.
It was clearly visible that after khanak's nearness he felt more comfortable talking to khanak than natasha..
To summarise Nobody hates natasha.People only dislike her ways of expressing love which they feel is overdone.
Again I do not know if u would take it in the real sense.If u do not like forgive me.
Well it is a week end and hence I had no problem in writing long replies.
Anyway thanx for valuing my time
with love
shriya.


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sorry, but i think i again have to reiterate what i said about the majority of your argument points being FORCED and MADE-UP. If after watching all those episodes, you feel Shantanu DOES NOT love Natasha, then im sorry, you really need to watch the same epis again....besides, where is the question of "comfort levels with another girl" coming from? First off, how can you tell that Shaan has NOT loved any girl apart from Natasha? And besides that, he LOVES her....that word is way below sharing "comfort level" or anything.


on Natasha's father:

Really? "No point in advising him to turn good", or is it that People WANT HIM to remain that way, so that Shaan and Khanak may be united at hook or crook? Ive read umpteen topics here, and most of them praise Mogambo for being a hurdle in the way of his own daughter's love. im sure if the villain had stood in the way of ShaNak instead - people would have opened a Gazillion topics to spew hate against him.😳


About the self-respect part - Read my points in Red. That should answer your queries.


In conclusion, i may say that while people tag other Television Couples as "Eternal lovers" and do everything to raise their voices if any TV couple even TRIES to get separated,, but here, people are NOT ONLY comfortable with, but also ACTIVELY ENCOURAGING the breaking-up and ending of a Love. Wow....i mean, thats REALLY WOW on their part! Really!👏 Biased much?😆

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