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Posted: 17 years ago
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Please clarify to me what exactly is the question. I am not able to understand. Once I understand the question, then may be I will be able to answer.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Now I get your question. Here is the answer: -
You are right that Sita was praying to Parvati (jaya jaya jaya girirajbarkisori). You are also right in saying that it was Sati (previous birth of Parvati), who tested Ram by assuming the form of Sita. But how is it possible? It looks like anachronism, isn't it? It looks like an error but it is not. This is because the scriptures talk about multiple universes. Ram's incarnation and many other divine leelas(plays) happen in these universes. But the same leela does not happen simultaneously in all the universes. In some universe, Ram gets born. In some other universe, he gets married to Sita. At the same time, in still some other universe, he fights with Ravan. And so on.
Moreover, even in the same universe, Ram incarnation has happened many times. All of these incarnations are very similar in some basic things but there are differences when you get into minute details. In some incarnation, Ram kills Ravan very easily. In some other incarnation, he seems to take more effort in killing Ravan. In some incarnation, he behaves very much like a human being. In some other incarnation, he shows more of his divine opulence. Likewise, there are some differences in Ram incarnations in different universes.
Therefore there are two reasons that there have been many Ram incarnations. One reason is various Ram incarnations at different times in the same universe. Another reason is many Ram incarnations at the same time in different universes.
Tulsidas did not write about a single Ram incarnation in his Ramacharitmanas. Rather, he has combined stories from different incarnations into a single story. That is why, there is confusion.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpurvi

Shruti
In BalKanda Vishwamitra narrated many stories to Ram n Laxman like birth of ganga, Churning of Aakash Ganga, birth of Kartikeya. He described UMA as daughter of Himalaya. Sati was daughter of Daksha whereas Uma is daughter of Himalaya. Kartikeya was born to Shiva-Parvati(Uma) before the start of Ramayana. The Godesses who tested Ram was Parvati not Sati


it was sati who tested ram it is clearly writtenin tulsi ramcharitmanas
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: akhl

Now I get your question. Here is the answer: -
You are right that Sita was praying to Parvati (jaya jaya jaya girirajbarkisori). You are also right in saying that it was Sati (previous birth of Parvati), who tested Ram by assuming the form of Sita. But how is it possible? It looks like anachronism, isn't it? It looks like an error but it is not. This is because the scriptures talk about multiple universes. Ram's incarnation and many other divine leelas(plays) happen in these universes. But the same leela does not happen simultaneously in all the universes. In some universe, Ram gets born. In some other universe, he gets married to Sita. At the same time, in still some other universe, he fights with Ravan. And so on.
Moreover, even in the same universe, Ram incarnation has happened many times. All of these incarnations are very similar in some basic things but there are differences when you get into minute details. In some incarnation, Ram kills Ravan very easily. In some other incarnation, he seems to take more effort in killing Ravan. In some incarnation, he behaves very much like a human being. In some other incarnation, he shows more of his divine opulence. Likewise, there are some differences in Ram incarnations in different universes.
Therefore there are two reasons that there have been many Ram incarnations. One reason is various Ram incarnations at different times in the same universe. Another reason is many Ram incarnations at the same time in different universes.
Tulsidas did not write about a single Ram incarnation in his Ramacharitmanas. Rather, he has combined stories from different incarnations into a single story. That is why, there is confusion.



thx avinash for ur answer it helps a lot in clearing my confusion ur answer is really good
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Posted: 17 years ago
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hi Shruti RamCharitmanas was written at a much latter age. Valmiki Ramayan was written by a contemporary. As Nidhi said that she read in ShivPuran that it was Parvati, n not Ma Sati who tested Ram. According to Valmiki Ramayan also Uma, daughter of Himalaya got married to Lord Shiva much before the start of Ramayana. So the goddesses who tested Ram cant be Sati. It was Parvati.

Shakti Peeths were established much before the start of Ramayana

Tulsidasji might have used Word "Sati" to refer Parvati as Parvati is none other than Sati's reincarnation.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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exactly we must not think alot abt timing. before taking incarnations, vishnujis stuti includes even kalkis name which is yet to take place. In brahmajis book each n everything abt everyone already written ...
why to worry of timing..
Daksh got sati as daughter after getting boon from Devi shakti durgaji, then sati reborn as parvati ji. They all are none but devi shakti, ARDHNAGESHWAR roop means half shivji and half shakti,all have diff names and forms for required purpose. Like pray gauriji to get marrd, then pray parvatiji to get good family life, durgaji for shakti. Its also mentioned in tulsi ramayan they prayed Ganesjhji before doing anything, like marr n dhanush bhang. But ganeshji wasnt into existence at that time. But see if Ramjis marriage can begin w/o praying Ganeshji then why not ours.... thatsy ganesh ji also involved in tulsi ramayan.
Each n every god have diff forms only but they r one and work accordingly.
In shiv puran we ll get to know, after pralay shiv ji the only god, he created shakti from his left side and then both created vishnuji who later after years of tapasya created brahmaji and whole world came out from vishnuji. Surya from his eyes, diff things from diff part.
except god no one can clear doubts like this, this all is just leela of gods.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpurvi

hi Shruti RamCharitmanas was written at a much latter age. Valmiki Ramayan was written by a contemporary. As Nidhi said that she read in ShivPuran that it was Parvati, n not Ma Sati who tested Ram. According to Valmiki Ramayan also Uma, daughter of Himalaya got married to Lord Shiva much before the start of Ramayana. So the goddesses who tested Ram cant be Sati. It was Parvati.

Shakti Peeths were established much before the start of Ramayana

Tulsidasji might have used Word "Sati" to refer Parvati as Parvati is none other than Sati's reincarnation.


even in shiv puran it is clearly written that sati tested ramji thats why shivji vow never o have relation with sati because her status changes because she take the form of sita which was like a mother to shiv ji

even this story was shown in some serials
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Gods just played their role as Ramji and devi Sati. after this satiji case, ramji again continued his part of role asking trees, birds abt sitaji.

Rishi Valmiki inspired by Naradji wrote VALMIKI RAMAYAN and taught luv-kush each n everything related to Ramjis life but skipped part where Sitaji will enter into earth. coz the kids will feel sad knowing mothers end.
Ramayan actually happened to teach us what to do. Pray ramji in difficulty, be like sitaji, obey parents n family, dont be like ravan, parshuram god but lost by ramji- a perfect man., many many to say.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: rupalip

Gods just played their role as Ramji and devi Sati. after this satiji case, ramji again continued his part of role asking trees, birds abt sitaji.

Rishi Valmiki inspired by Naradji wrote VALMIKI RAMAYAN and taught luv-kush each n everything related to Ramjis life but skipped part where Sitaji will enter into earth. coz the kids will feel sad knowing mothers end.
Ramayan actually happened to teach us what to do. Pray ramji in difficulty, be like sitaji, obey parents n family, dont be like ravan, parshuram god but lost by ramji- a perfect man., many many to say.


very well said👏
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Jai shree Ram
i read your question??? that ques. was thr. in my mind also, and i got the ans. after reading Ramcharitmanas by Tulsidas ji.(currently i'm reading it). In that whn. Parvati Mata was getting married to Shivji they first pray the lord Ganesha(who was not physically thr. as he was Shiv andParvati mata's son) but it was clearly appealed to the readers in the book that they shuld not get confused with all this as god is always thr. in NIRGUN ROOP whether he or she has taken their physical form or not. In the same way its about Parvati or Gauri Mata. whether she has taken avtaar in Parvati form or not she will be there in her Nirgun Roop. One more thing we know about God Kalki who will be the tenth avtaar of Lord Vishnu and will come on the earth at the end of Kalyug but we know about him, and its only through our scriptures so at that time also they got all these knowledge from the scriptures and from there Guru's
. Moreover, in that case Sitaji was worshiping, I mean one goddess was worshiping other goddess...
Edited by sam1903 - 17 years ago

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