Doubts and Discussions from the Ramayan II - Page 42

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

One thing I hate about this Rama-Hanuman battle story - Kashi-naresh (or even Raja Shakuntan in the original source, whatever it was) was a kshatriya, and it was always kshatriya dharma to protect others, not seek the protection of others, particularly Brahmans and women. Note that in this case, my sympathies are w/ Kashi-naresh - endangering him to save Rama from the consequences of exiling Sita was unconscionable, regardless of whether one agrees w/ Rama's decision or not. Here however, you have a kshatriya ruler behaving like a complete wuss, first approaching various rishis, and then approaching a woman, trying to get her to separate her son from his sworn loyalties. I appreciate that everyone values his own life, but given what the kshatriya code of conduct was, the way this ruler behaved was unbelievably cowardly. Granted, there could have been kshatriya cowards, but still, the degree of cowardice in this story was unbelievable.

I mentioned this in the daily update thread, but am posting a question related to the more generic part of the story here.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

In the Bajrangbali serial that they showed, he goes directly to Anjani. I dunno whether that would make him more cowardly or less. Also, this story had nothing to do w/ Sita's exile. In that serial, they show this event happening between a song K-L sing in Rama's yagna denouncing him, and them capturing the horse and being engaged in battle w/ Pushkal before Rama goes to meet them.

Originally posted by: Chandraketu

In the Bajrangbali serial that they showed, he goes directly to Anjani. I dunno whether that would make him more cowardly or less. Also, this story had nothing to do w/ Sita's exile. In that serial, they show this event happening between a song K-L sing in Rama's yagna denouncing him, and them capturing the horse and being engaged in battle w/ Pushkal before Rama goes to meet them.

Originally posted by: Khalrika

Chandra, u r funny. U have Gretlasura as part of your signature. 😆

Originally posted by: chen2chic

Gretelasura ! Chandra will also have Sunanda in his signature !! 😉 😉 😉. Also is it not Gretelasuri - I thought that was a female...

Originally posted by: chen2chic

Oh yaa, going to Anjani directlydoes not make him less cowardly. But just wanted to know it. So Rama encounters Hanuman and then K-L in a row as per that serial ? Great !

Yup, that's what happened in that serial.

For this serial, look at the poetic justice here - Rama gets defeated by Hanuman, and K-L 'avenge' pitashri's defeat by defeating Hanuman and tying him up (even though they had to wage war against pitashri's army itself to bring that about).

Would this be in order??? =>>👏

Originally posted by: Khalrika

Sorry Chen and Chandra (hey that rhymes 😆😆😆). I am liking the episodes of Ram-Hanuman yudh. I was a little upset they changed the story a little in the beginning but that irritation has passed. (If I don't mention this Chandra will pull some old post of mine from the archives. 😆😆😆)

Now, don't be mad please. I know u guys r not pleased with the episodes. Kya Karon? I have decided to enjoy the storyline without comparing it to the original.😆

How exactly does 'Chen & Chandra' rhyme - I don't get it?

I too am watching this, but now as a quasi-comedy routine - I have disabused myself of the notion that I'm watching Ramayan. But kya karon - can't help but compare it to the actual story, particularly when they show things that also appear in the original, but wrong. When they were on the swarna-kamal saga, I could enjoy it uninterruptedly w/o sparing a moment's thought re: what the original says, but it's worse when they get it even partly right, b'cos then we are forced to compare.

For this reason, I have an all-or-nothing mentality re: our epics - I'd prefer something that's either 100% right, or 100% wrong. When something is in between, I'm forced to analytically compare the 2, see how it is different, and more importantly, whether the depiction misrepresents the original message. But if it is 100% right, one can watch it very dedicatedly, and if it's 100% wrong, one can simply enjoy it as a spoof. For this reason, I think KHMK was a better deal than BRC.

Originally posted by: Khalrika

Chen, u r correct. It should be Gretalasuri! 😆

I'll correct it once I get a pic of Sunanda and have it put in by our resident siggie artist Lalitha - she can replace the chastened Shurpanakha w/ folded hands, who's completely out of place here.

Gretel-asuri?