Lord Ram is a GOD

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Frnds!!
I am writing this topic to share my feelings with you. Sorry, if u feel the topic is a bit boring. When I am seeing Ramayan on 4th Feb, my cousin came to our home at that time. He asked what is happening in serial. I told that Ravan is dead and Vibhishan is weeping. He felt pity on Ravan and suddenly started arguing with me that Lord Ram has done faith to entire world except to his wife. I was shocked 😲and felt bitter in my heart as he is showing wrong on Lord Ram. I started arguing with him that how cud u say like that. Lord Ram loves his wife somuch and still today many of our elders bless newly married couple that their pair shud be like Sita Ram.
The point which he didn't like in Lord Ram is why had he sent his pregnant wife to exile by caring the words of a butler? Is this correct?
I answered him "Ram has given an oath to his ppl. at the time of Rajyabhishek (ceremony of adoring him as a king) that he wud rule the kingdom as per the commands of people and follow the path of dharma irrespective of his senses (kama, krodha, lobha, moha, mada, matsara). The butler had commented on Ram that king (Ram) has been going according to his feelings. When Ram had come to know abt. this, he felt very sad and even requests his bros. to take up the kingdom, so that he will go to exile with sita. The 3 bros. (Bharat, Laxman, Shatrughan) requested him not to do so bcoz. only Ram can do full justice to the role. So he decided to send sita to exile. He had done it only for the sake of his people and he suffered alot in his heart by separating from sita. He took all his feelings and senses in his control and accepted the fact.
Even Sita mata also know the mind of her husband and accepted the fact and took the responsibility of taking care of her children (the successors of Ikshvakul dynasty) If he had given oath to people means the oath is also given by Sita Mata to people bcoz. Sita & Ram are not at all different. Then she wud have definitely gone for exile for the sake of her husband's word."
Even then my cousin has not yet agreed with me. When I told this to my mother, she told me that Chintu (my cousin) had talked as an arrogant fellow. She gave her reason for sita exile in this way: "Sita has went for exile to Sage Valmiki hermitage becoz. Ramayan has to be written by him. It is a destiny decided by gods. Even though, Ram Sita doesn't stay together, their hearts are always together. If Ram don't love her & trust her, why wud he built a bridge across the ocean and go to Lanka and kill Ravan? He had done everything as per the customs of that period. (Tretayugam) . Ram has not only sent Sita , but also his happiness and personnel life to exile. He had taken care of people irrespective of his personnel life"
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I am posting this to u frnds, bcoz many people among us think in this way, by sharing with u , I will be happy in my mind. Sorry, if I have hurted any one of your feelings. My intention is only to tell that Ram has faced all the sorrows and pains for the welfare of the world., not to highlight my cousin's intentions.
Jai Shree Ram! Jai Shree Ram! Jai Shree Ram!

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Posted: 16 years ago
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U'll find superb expalantion on this by members Mandodari n Vibhishna on the thread doubt and discussion on Ramayana

I think Lord Ram did this for Sita's honour n image. It was needed. He loved her more than Himself
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Posted: 16 years ago
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kiran this topic has been raised before too
and yes i even don't feel that was injustice
even though
at times it feel why they got seprated but its a lesson for us people actually
tht should be understand by us...
he did all this for human race
if he sacrificed sita mata
then he himself suffered alot..
thing is tht ur cousin is not looking in that perspective...
his querry was very much obvious why he done this..
and to agree with this point we do need to come out from emotional sides..
as emotional human beings we at times overpowered by our emotions we do not look into the thing
which it trying to teach us...
so don't dishearten ur self
if your cousin get the learning angle of the ramayan then for sure he will understand...
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Posted: 16 years ago
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hmm I agree with sam
n I said this before also
that it all happened to teach us all situations of life
SItaji is the first Single parent .
so its not necessary for a person to remarry or to die if single after marriage..
Ram-SIta both lived single for long time and took care of kids
She was maharani (Raja Rams wife) but still lived in ashram and never complained...
she dint opted living in Janaks house but lived in ashram all alone without family .........
and Ramji also dint married ....
Duties always comes first ...
there are times when we have to avoid our near n dear ones coz of duty ...
and He was Lord Ram... Maryada purushottam
how cld he disobey duties...Then again in valmiki ramayan
its written that
Sitaji wld live in exile according to her horo ..
someone predicted it before her marriage
so keeping this in mind
she always wanted to live in exile for sometime with Lord
we can say its destiny ...
no one can fight with fat e
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hey Kiran....dear like Purvi said u will find the explanations to this done very well by Vibhishna and Mandodari in the Doubts and Discussion thread!!!!! We all have put a lil bit of our input as to y we think it was necessary...and there are many POV's and many reasons that all make sense please do visit them dear..

Also Purvi created a thread on Agni Pareeksha too...which was so beautifully explained that me as the least emotional person, felt a bit teary eyed!!!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sam1903

kiran this topic has been raised before too
and yes i even don't feel that was injustice
even though
at times it feel why they got seprated but its a lesson for us people actually
tht should be understand by us...
he did all this for human race
if he sacrificed sita mata
then he himself suffered alot..
thing is tht ur cousin is not looking in that perspective...
his querry was very much obvious why he done this..
and to agree with this point we do need to come out from emotional sides..
as emotional human beings we at times overpowered by our emotions we do not look into the thing
which it trying to teach us...
so don't dishearten ur self
if your cousin get the learning angle of the ramayan then for sure he will understand...

Sam has made an excellent point here...if we think it was wrong, then we shud also know that Lord Ram is the ever knowing..y did he have to lose his beloved to Ravan for the last few months of his Vanvaas...its very crucial to our understanding...but it make sense if u learn thru wut the LORD is really trying to teach the human race!!!!
Well said Sam!!!👏👏👏
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: rupalip

hmm I agree with sam

n I said this before also
that it all happened to teach us all situations of life
SItaji is the first Single parent .
so its not necessary for a person to remarry or to die if single after marriage..
Ram-SIta both lived single for long time and took care of kids
She was maharani (Raja Rams wife) but still lived in ashram and never complained...
she dint opted living in Janaks house but lived in ashram all alone without family .........
and Ramji also dint married ....
Duties always comes first ...
there are times when we have to avoid our near n dear ones coz of duty ...
and He was Lord Ram... Maryada purushottam
how cld he disobey duties...Then again in valmiki ramayan
its written that
Sitaji wld live in exile according to her horo ..
someone predicted it before her marriage
so keeping this in mind
she always wanted to live in exile for sometime with Lord
we can say its destiny ...
no one can fight with fat e

Agreed Rupali....No1 can fight Destiny...its already preplanned for us!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thank uuuuuuuuuuuuu frnds. Thank u for ur response. As I alreay told u know, that by sharing with u, my mind will be very happy. I am very much edicted to the forum.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: kiranraghu

Frnds!!

I am writing this topic to share my feelings with you. Sorry, if u feel the topic is a bit boring. When I am seeing Ramayan on 4th Feb, my cousin came to our home at that time. He asked what is happening in serial. I told that Ravan is dead and Vibhishan is weeping. He felt pity on Ravan and suddenly started arguing with me that Lord Ram has done faith to entire world except to his wife. I was shocked 😲and felt bitter in my heart as he is showing wrong on Lord Ram. I started arguing with him that how cud u say like that. Lord Ram loves his wife somuch and still today many of our elders bless newly married couple that their pair shud be like Sita Ram.
The point which he didn't like in Lord Ram is why had he sent his pregnant wife to exile by caring the words of a butler? Is this correct?
I answered him "Ram has given an oath to his ppl. at the time of Rajyabhishek (ceremony of adoring him as a king) that he wud rule the kingdom as per the commands of people and follow the path of dharma irrespective of his senses (kama, krodha, lobha, moha, mada, matsara). The butler had commented on Ram that king (Ram) has been going according to his feelings. When Ram had come to know abt. this, he felt very sad and even requests his bros. to take up the kingdom, so that he will go to exile with sita. The 3 bros. (Bharat, Laxman, Shatrughan) requested him not to do so bcoz. only Ram can do full justice to the role. So he decided to send sita to exile. He had done it only for the sake of his people and he suffered alot in his heart by separating from sita. He took all his feelings and senses in his control and accepted the fact.
Even Sita mata also know the mind of her husband and accepted the fact and took the responsibility of taking care of her children (the successors of Ikshvakul dynasty) If he had given oath to people means the oath is also given by Sita Mata to people bcoz. Sita & Ram are not at all different. Then she wud have definitely gone for exile for the sake of her husband's word."
Even then my cousin has not yet agreed with me. When I told this to my mother, she told me that Chintu (my cousin) had talked as an arrogant fellow. She gave her reason for sita exile in this way: "Sita has went for exile to Sage Valmiki hermitage becoz. Ramayan has to be written by him. It is a destiny decided by gods. Even though, Ram Sita doesn't stay together, their hearts are always together. If Ram don't love her & trust her, why wud he built a bridge across the ocean and go to Lanka and kill Ravan? He had done everything as per the customs of that period. (Tretayugam) . Ram has not only sent Sita , but also his happiness and personnel life to exile. He had taken care of people irrespective of his personnel life"
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I am posting this to u frnds, bcoz many people among us think in this way, by sharing with u , I will be happy in my mind. Sorry, if I have hurted any one of your feelings. My intention is only to tell that Ram has faced all the sorrows and pains for the welfare of the world., not to highlight my cousin's intentions.
Jai Shree Ram! Jai Shree Ram! Jai Shree Ram!



U know wat? I always say this when people tell me that Ramji was not so great because he sent his wife away.

"Our great leaders like Gandhiji and other freedom fighters got the freedom for India at great personal cost. If you read their personal lives they had to sacrifice so much for the sake of the country and the people. Great things cannot be achieved without great sacrifices. There is no free lunch in life.
If the people in power in India had behaved like Ramji and had put India and its people above personal happiness then India would be a developed nation by now."

Say this and most people will shut up and go away. U will not hear any complaints about Ramji after this speech. 😆
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Great explanation Mandodari and everyone else.👏
Kiran, I love the explanation your mother gave.👏 It's so true. One other reason besides many that Ram and Sita got separated was the Luv Kush had to sing the Ramayan composed by their revered Guru Valmiki. Luv and Kush went far and wide and spread the great ocean of love called Ramayana, and enlightened everyone to the purity of Sita Mata and the perfection of Lord Ram. If Sita had stayed in Ayodhya and Luv Kush were given a royal upbringing, who would narrate the Ramayana to all the countries of India? It is said that Luv and Kush had the most melodious voices, and the Ramayana sung from their lips was so beautiful that it brought tears to everyone's eyes. In Luv and Kush, the people saw Ram and Sita.
I would also like to share a story with you that I heard a long time ago.
When Princess Sita was a young child, she was playing ball with her friends. During their play, the ball bounced out of the garden they were playing and went into the mandir where the Pinaka, the Dhanush of Lord Shiva, was kept. The ball went right underneath the chest on which the Pinaka was kept. Sita pushed the chest which held the bow, took the ball, and resumed her play with her friends. King Janak, who saw this, became worried that he would have a hard time finding a groom for Sita who matched her strength, so he made a vow that only one who lifted and strung the bow of Ishvara would marry Sita. But before the swayamvara, Queen Sunayana, Sita's mother, organized a puja to bring luck to the swayamvara and invited the wives of the Saptarishis to bless Sita.
After the Puja, Sita was told to put vermillion on the foreheads of the wives of the Saptarishis and beget their blessings. Sita got blessings from six of them, but before she could put vermillion on the head of the 7th one, her nail accidentally pricked the forehead of the 7th woman and a drop of blood seeped out. The wife of the Rishi got immensely angry and accused Sita of carelessness and being arrogant of her Royal Status. She cursed her that she would be separated from her husband. Queen Sunayana pleaded with the Rishi's wife to take back the curse, but since that was impossible, the rishi's wife lessened it by saying that Sita would get married to Lord Vishnu himself, and would be separated from him for only 14 years (as if that was a short time😕).
The point of this story is that many factors added to Sita being exiled, not only the washerman making allegations against Sita. So Kiran, maybe you can tell your cousin all of these stories and tell him it was was also fate that Sita got exiled. Shri Ram was not to blame.

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