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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajnish_here


shhhhhhh secret hai😃😆



mujhe jaan na hai
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Posted: 16 years ago
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yup😃
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Nice explanation Purvi.👍🏼
And I love your avatar pic. Shri Krishna is so cute!❤️🤗 Do you know the name of the actor?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: godisone

Nice explanation Purvi.👍🏼

And I love your avatar pic. Shri Krishna is so cute!❤️🤗 Do you know the name of the actor?



she is Dhriti bhatia n is only 3yrs old
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpurvi



she is Dhriti bhatia n is only 3yrs old


I love this cuteeee pieeeeeeeee krishn too❤️🤗
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpurvi



she is Dhriti bhatia n is only 3yrs old

Thanks😊.
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Posted: 16 years ago
#37
Thank you friends for patiently reading such a long reply.
Purvi ji, that was a very nice explanation (and a very cute avtar).
One major question that had been nagging me for a long time . . .
What happened to Vibhishan's family after he left Lanka and joined Ram?
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Posted: 16 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: coolpurvi

There is old saying "Ghar ka bhedi Lanka dhaaye". With due respect to the originator of this saying I want to say that I do not agree with it. Vibhishan was not against Lanka he was only aginst its unjust reign of Ravan. In earleir days there was no differnce between the King/Ruler n State/country/kingdom. But Vibhishan differntated between the two. Vibhishan was against the unjust ruler of Lanka n not Lanka. When Ravan has himself first disowned him infront of everyone explicitly the how he cud claim that Vibhishan played foul by helping Ram. Ravan was the first person who renounced this relation

I agree with this, and Vibs, Mandodari & I had a discussion on this in the vanar club a few weeks ago. Essentially, who was the one who came up with this 'proverb'? I mean, if one wants a figure out of the epics who betrayed his or her family, why not pick Kaikeyi? In her case, while she treated Kaushalya and Sumitra with the utmost disrespect throughout her marriage, Rama was always her favorite (until Manthara poisoned her mind against him), and her disdain for Kaushalya did not translate into a disdain for Rama. Which is why Dasharath thought that when he was making Rama the yuvraj, he'd have her support on that. So when she turned around and misused her boons the way she did, that was the ultimate betrayal.

Mandodari made a good point that Kaikeyi didn't join hands with a foreign enemy the way Vibhishan did. However, I'd argue that causing so much pain and suffering in the family is trecherous enough, and whether or not external factors are involved is immaterial. Here, the fact that the fates required Rama's exile is irrelevant: Kaikeyi did not exile Rama so that he could kill Ravan, she just wanted him out of the way so that Bharat could rule. So if one has to pluck somebody out of the epics to symbolize a traitor, why not Kaikeyi, who's much more deserving of this ignomy than Vibhishan?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chandraketu

I agree with this, and Vibs, Mandodari & I had a discussion on this in the vanar club a few weeks ago. Essentially, who was the one who came up with this 'proverb'? I mean, if one wants a figure out of the epics who betrayed his or her family, why not pick Kaikeyi? In her case, while she treated Kaushalya and Sumitra with the utmost disrespect throughout her marriage, Rama was always her favorite (until Manthara poisoned her mind against him), and her disdain for Kaushalya did not translate into a disdain for Rama. Which is why Dasharath thought that when he was making Rama the yuvraj, he'd have her support on that. So when she turned around and misused her boons the way she did, that was the ultimate betrayal.

Mandodari made a good point that Kaikeyi didn't join hands with a foreign enemy the way Vibhishan did. However, I'd argue that causing so much pain and suffering in the family is trecherous enough, and whether or not external factors are involved is immaterial. Here, the fact that the fates required Rama's exile is irrelevant: Kaikeyi did not exile Rama so that he could kill Ravan, she just wanted him out of the way so that Bharat could rule. So if one has to pluck somebody out of the epics to symbolize a traitor, why not Kaikeyi, who's much more deserving of this ignomy than Vibhishan?

I gree that Vibhishan was never against Lanka. And we have discussed this already in the Vanar Sena club. Its a good point that Maharani Kaikeyi did not betray her kingdom but she did something far worse. I agree with Chandra ji that betraying your family when they all trust you far worse than any sin I could think of. Maharani Kaikeyi was too proud and she was Maharaj Dashrath's favourite, so she did not think of the other two queens as a threat to her position. Most of the time she is depicted as a good wife and quite respectful towards the queens Kaushalya and Sumitra. She loved Ram so much till Manthra poisoned her mind. In a moment she turned against her own family. Again, I agree with Chandra ji that the fates and the divine will does not count here. Manthra may have poisoned her mind but how can she lose her own reasoning and do such a thing like this to a person who loved her so much as a mother? This is an example of how much a person losing her head even for a moment may cause havoc for all. But she realised her mistake (though too late) and paid dearly for what she did.
And I still couldn't find out the answer to my question . . . What happened to Vibhishan's family after he left Lanka and joined Ram?
Edited by Vibhishna - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vibhishna

I gree that Vibhishan was never against Lanka. And we have discussed this already in the Vanar Sena club. Its a good point that Maharani Kaikeyi did not betray her kingdom but she did something far worse. I agree with Chandra ji that betraying your family when they all trust you far worse than any sin I could think of. Maharani Kaikeyi was too proud and she was Maharaj Dashrath's favourite, so she did not think of the other two queens as a threat to her position. Most of the time she is depicted as a good wife and quite respectful towards the queens Kaushalya and Sumitra. She loved Ram so much till Manthra poisoned her mind. In a moment she turned against her own family. Again, I agree with Chandra ji that the fates and the divine will does not count here. Manthra may have poisoned her mind but how can she lose her own reasoning and do such a thing like this to a person who loved her so much as a mother? This is an example of how much a person losing her head even for a moment may cause havoc for all. But she realised her mistake (though too late) and paid dearly for what she did.
And I still couldn't find out the answer to my question . . . What happened to Vibhishan's family after he left Lanka and joined Ram?

I heard that Vibhishan's wife and daughter were allowed to stay in Lanka, and that the daughter was the one who gave food to Sitaji everyday. Sita Ma would not accept food from anyone else, as only Vibhishan''s family followed Dharma in Lanka.

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