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Posted: 12 years ago
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As shown in last two episodes, we can believe ram and lakshman got lot of special arms n weapons from the sages they met. For example; last episode showed rishi agastya giving them never ending quiver and the bow which vishnu ji used against the war against demons..
and ram ji repeatedly says all the sages thorugh out their 12 years have blessed them with lof of divine weapons..armor can be one of them.

moreover he is a human avtaar. so i actually loved they showed such details :)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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For all those saying that "mohini astra" is mentioned neither in Valmiki Ramayan nor in Shri Ramcharitmanas, well, it's very much there in Shri Ramcharitmanas. OK, the name "mohini astra" is not there, but what member 'jklp' mentions in the opening post, that incident is certainly there. Read the description of this battle given between dohas 19 & 20 in Aaranya Kand of Manas, you'll find the description of demons, under Lord's illusion, seeing each other as Ram, & killing each other. Further, Manas says that because of this illusion, demons died while shouting "Ram, Ram" & thus attained eternal bliss.

Mentioning this doesn't mean that I wanted this incident shown during battle, or that I've any problem if they followed valmiki Ramayan to the T. As I've already said above, the episode was good, and I am happy. But if we are going to discuss what's written or not written in a particular epic, a quick re-read of the relevant passage from the relevant epic before contributing here, is always a good idea. 😊

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ukrn

In Valmiki Ramayana it is written that Rama gets injured during the battles. This happens in battles with Khar & Dushan and also in Lanka. Actually it is written that he has his armour on when doing battles and that also gets broken And when he is injured with blood flowing he looks like a tree with covered with red flowers all over


thanks alot ukm wow so glad they look after such minute details😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Mita, I believe that the Mohini Astra version is from Adhyatma Ramayana.😊 Like other versions, Ramanand Sagar's Ramayana and Anand Sagar's Ramayana used many sources to make Ramayana. RSR and ASR showed Ram using Mohini Astra to kill Khar and Dushan, but that version is not from Valmiki Ramayana as others mentioned. It's from Adhyatma Ramayana, which is another revered source. I do not know what Ramcharitmanas says, but I remember reading very little about Ram's battle with Khar and Dushan. It doesn't mention it in great detail, neither about the Mohini astra nor any other astra.

Though this show had many blunders before, I think it's getting on track now. The death of Khar and Dushan was shown as per Valmiki Ramayana. Only thing I found weird was that Ram's face had bruises on it. I don't believe Ram was ever hurt during battle. 😕 But it's a small mistake compared to the other mistakes this show made in the past, so it's not a big deal.
This episode was the best this show has every gotten.👏 I do not like the Shani scenes, but they did not take up the majority of the episode this week so it's OK. Ram's battle with Khar-Dushan and the last scene where Lakshman and Sita serve Ram was very nicely shown.


yaa janki finally there is no andekha adhaya 😃...i love the solar eclipse and bad omen on khar and dushan.they took care of the minute details👏...i would have love to see lakshman and sita hiding in the cave as it is mentioned in other version...but nevermind this epi was much better than pervious one...

yaa i also read in ramcharitmanas lord rama creating a illusion and demon army started fighting among themselves i but...t didnt mention mohiastra..khar dushan and tirshira werent killed by tht astra ?? right .hmm so adhyatma ramayana mentions mohiniastra never knew tht thanks for sharing😳
and can u plz provide the link where lord rama (guru) fought with khar and dushan and tht mohini astra would love to see it😳
Edited by arti07 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Really? That is quite interesting to know. Thank you so much for informing.😊
Btw, just out of curiosity, do you happen to know who provides Shri Ram with armor?😲 I mean, he went to exile in valkala right? Wouldn't armor come under royal outfits, which he was not allowed to wear?


yaa exactly but if they were provided with armour i would love to see lord ram and lakshman wearing it😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I really do not understand why do we keep on comparing the ZEE TV RAMAYAN with other renditions ON TV...Like really as Gods themselves created those TV versions..CERTAINLY NOT RIGHT...those were also a bunch of creatives like any other...I am not undermining any TV version..I loved them all ..but it's totally unfair to keep on finding faults with the show even when it came up with the most interesting episode..I am not a very learned soul and do not claim to know it all and Whatever i read from my frnds etc..I do believe that the episode did pay attention to each and every detail mentioned in a revered scripture..I had said it many times that there so many versions of Ramayan which are holy and authentic too.. and differ a lot in terms of style execution tales etc...So can someone tell me how can CV show all the versions at the same time CURIOUS MUCH 😕if they stick to Valmiki Ramayan then we have a problem,if they use Ramcharitamanas then also we have a problem ,if they use some unheard tales then also we have a problem..I am really surprised and confused as to what exactly we want ? For me if the episode follows any scripture with authenticity and pays attention to details ..M happy with it...Arti thanks for all that information and I really love all TV versions of Ramayan ...though never watched NDTV one in a go but whatever episodes i did were good too...So instead of comparing the show with other TV versions i loved how must of you co-related and estanlished the validity of facts with the scriptures
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Mita, I believe that the Mohini Astra version is from Adhyatma Ramayana.😊 Like other versions, Ramanand Sagar's Ramayana and Anand Sagar's Ramayana used many sources to make Ramayana. RSR and ASR showed Ram using Mohini Astra to kill Khar and Dushan, but that version is not from Valmiki Ramayana as others mentioned. It's from Adhyatma Ramayana, which is another revered source. I do not know what Ramcharitmanas says, but I remember reading very little about Ram's battle with Khar and Dushan. It doesn't mention it in great detail, neither about the Mohini astra nor any other astra.

Though this show had many blunders before, I think it's getting on track now. The death of Khar and Dushan was shown as per Valmiki Ramayana. Only thing I found weird was that Ram's face had bruises on it. I don't believe Ram was ever hurt during battle. 😕 But it's a small mistake compared to the other mistakes this show made in the past, so it's not a big deal.
This episode was the best this show has every gotten.👏 I do not like the Shani scenes, but they did not take up the majority of the episode this week so it's OK. Ram's battle with Khar-Dushan and the last scene where Lakshman and Sita serve Ram was very nicely shown.



Thank you a lot dear janu for clearing my doubt that its from Shri Adhyatma Ramayana. Yesdear, Shri Ramacharit manas mentions of illusion in which all the demons fought among themselves, but does not clearly specify the name Mohini Astra.
Edited by jklp - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

I really do not understand why do we keep on comparing the ZEE TV RAMAYAN with other renditions ON TV...Like really as Gods themselves created those TV versions..CERTAINLY NOT RIGHT...those were also a bunch of creatives like any other...I am not undermining any TV version..I loved them all ..but it's totally unfair to keep on finding faults with the show even when it came up with the most interesting episode..I am not a very learned soul and do not claim to know it all and Whatever i read from my frnds etc..I do believe that the episode did pay attention to each and every detail mentioned in a revered scripture..I had said it many times that there so many versions of Ramayan which are holy and authentic too.. and differ a lot in terms of style execution tales etc...So can someone tell me how can CV show all the versions at the same time CURIOUS MUCH 😕if they stick to Valmiki Ramayan then we have a problem,if they use Ramcharitamanas then also we have a problem ,if they use some unheard tales then also we have a problem..I am really surprised and confused as to what exactly we want ? For me if the episode follows any scripture with authenticity and pays attention to details ..M happy with it...Arti thanks for all that information and I really love all TV versions of Ramayan ...though never watched NDTV one in a go but whatever episodes i did were good too...So instead of comparing the show with other TV versions i loved how must of you co-related and estanlished the validity of facts with the scriptures


yaa ...i think this show is mainly based on valmiki ramayana i m not saying tht ramcharitmanas is different or things like tht... but the way it is presented it looks like valmiki version's ramayana ...for example in the last epi the jatayu convo with ram and lakshman was in accordance with valmiki version...watever i love this show😳
Edited by arti07 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

I really do not understand why do we keep on comparing the ZEE TV RAMAYAN with other renditions ON TV...Like really as Gods themselves created those TV versions..CERTAINLY NOT RIGHT...those were also a bunch of creatives like any other...I am not undermining any TV version..I loved them all ..but it's totally unfair to keep on finding faults with the show even when it came up with the most interesting episode..I am not a very learned soul and do not claim to know it all and Whatever i read from my frnds etc..I do believe that the episode did pay attention to each and every detail mentioned in a revered scripture..I had said it many times that there so many versions of Ramayan which are holy and authentic too.. and differ a lot in terms of style execution tales etc...So can someone tell me how can CV show all the versions at the same time CURIOUS MUCH 😕if they stick to Valmiki Ramayan then we have a problem,if they use Ramcharitamanas then also we have a problem ,if they use some unheard tales then also we have a problem..I am really surprised and confused as to what exactly we want ? For me if the episode follows any scripture with authenticity and pays attention to details ..M happy with it...Arti thanks for all that information and I really love all TV versions of Ramayan ...though never watched NDTV one in a go but whatever episodes i did were good too...So instead of comparing the show with other TV versions i loved how must of you co-related and estanlished the validity of facts with the scriptures


You sound annoyed! I wonder why.

If members wish to compare a TV show with other TV shows on the same story, what's the problem? Let them do it. 😎 😎 And you got to admit, whenever a particular story, in any media, has multiple versions, we'll, consciously or unconsciously, compare them & end up with a favourite. For example, after reading every conceivable version of Ramayan available, I find Shri Ramcharitmanas to be the best, in fact, in a league of it's own. It's so subtle, so well-written, & so crammed with Vedanta, I now refuse to compare it with any other version!! Same's the case in every media, I believe. Anybody who has watched all three 'Devdas' movies, will have a fav among those three (mine is Dilip Kumar's version, btw, though K L Sehgal's was good, too, never watched Shahrukh's version completely), and not only that, we'll have people adamant that the novel should never have been adapted for the screen!

You probably noticed that I too have written two posts in this thread and in both of them, I've mentioned that I am happy with the episode & what's shown by way of battle, and with the show as well. However, if there are members who believe that a particular incident, howsoever minor, was portrayed better in some other TV show, I think expressing their opinion on a discussion forum, is not only right, but rather desirable for the general 'interest-worthiness' of the forum concerned. Doesn't mean that we all have to agree with each other's opinions, of course, or even take any interest in it, but why not express it, decently & properly? 😊

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: arti07


yaa janki finally there is no andekha adhaya 😃...i love the solar eclipse and bad omen on khar and dushan.they took care of the minute details👏...i would have love to see lakshman and sita hiding in the cave as it is mentioned in other version...but nevermind this epi was much better than pervious one...

yaa i also read in ramcharitmanas lord rama creating a illusion and demon army started fighting among themselves i but...t didnt mention mohiastra..khar dushan and tirshira werent killed by tht astra ?? right .hmm so adhyatma ramayana mentions mohiniastra never knew tht thanks for sharing😳
and can u plz provide the link where lord rama (guru) fought with khar and dushan and tht mohini astra would love to see it😳

Yes, the technology used for the solar eclipse was really nice! I am glad SP is making use of current technology which was not that common even in 2008! The effects are similar to Dkdm and I really it.
Yeah I also remember reading that Lakshman took Sita to hide in a cave, but whatever, it's not an important detail.😆
Yes, Adhyatma Ramayan mentions mohini astra, and like other members said, I guess Ramcharitmanas does too (it was heavily influenced by Adhyatma). I just read a short translation of Ramcharitmanas so I never knew mohini astra was shown in it also.
The mohini astra gives Ramayan a more humorous touch. Guru was hilarious in the episode.🤣 He also mentioned that this scene was the most fun to film because he got to do action.😆
Here is the episode:
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVRyQdLK0jA[/YOUTUBE]
Edited by JanakiRaghunath - 12 years ago

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