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Please do not look for any pt in just puranas.

Followers of those sects are taught detailed worship, which many times is not open to all.

Stotra, mantras, ritualistic worship, explains more details.

Hence please do not discard anything, which is not known to one.

Indra of vedas is personifcation of rains and then vishnu worship became popular, vishnu who was the youngest son of Kashyap rishi became upendra and Indra became a title held by his elder brother Sakra. Then stories came about of previous Indras.

Shri which meant prosperity was Indra's wife. And As Vishnu rose to prominence shri was first made to desert Indra and then title handed over to Vishnu's wife Lakshmi.

And other mythical magical stories came about just to explain the transition of title.

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Draupadi in Mahabharat is also called as Shri, Not just that Arjun is addressed as incarnation of Nara who was himself incarnation of Vishnu.

So many divergent views exist as to whether Draupadi Shri is lakshmi because Arjun is Nara/Vishnu or She is Sachi wife of Indra because the five Pandavas were five Indra.

Draupadi was Shree of Pandavas.

CE calls Draupadi Lakshmi as well as Shri

Vol 1, Section 189

Thus itwas that the former Indras were born as the Pandavas, and the celestial Lakshmi, earlierordained to be their wife, was born as the divinely beautiful Droupadi.

Vol 3, Section 39, 523 (226)

he blazing Lakshmi used to serve the Pandavasearlier. O king! But with your brothers, you have now won her.

Vol 10, 1963 (32)

She is middle-aged and is like one from heaven. Hercomplexion is like that of a blue lotus. This is Krishna, like Lakshmi personified, like the deity of acity.

Vol 1, 61

O king! I have already told you about the class of apsaras. As instructed by Vasava, theirparts were also born on earth. O lord of men! Sixteen thousand parts of these goddesses wereborn in this world as the wives of Narayana. A part of Shri74 herself was born on earth out oflove. She was born as a faultless daughter in the house of Drupada, from the middle of asacrificial altar. She was neither tall nor short, and had the fragrance of a blue lotus. Her eyeswere long, like lotus leaves. Her hips were well formed. Her hair was long and black. She hadall the auspicious marks on her body and she had the shine of lapis lazuli.75 She charmed theminds of five men who were like Indras.

Vol 1, Section 13, 189

He ordained that the woman, the most beautifulin the worlds, who was none other than Shri44 herself, would be their wife in the world ofmen. Thereafter, accompanied by them,45 he46 went to the god Narayana, who is beyondmeasure. He47 approved of everything and thus it was that they were born on earth.

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The whole "celestial Shri" concept as separate from Lakshmi was likely put in there for peeps to reconcile the discomfort of Shri being Narayana's consort, yet with Pandavas.

Shri herself answers this conundrum. She is the same as lakshmi.

Bheeshma explains this to Yudhishtira 😆. I someday wish to analyze that long convo about Shri and why she was abandoning certain people.

Volume 9, Chapter 1546(218)

Bhishma said, “Shatakratu then saw the blazing Shri,186 in her own form, emerge from the bodyof the great-souled Bali. The illustrious chastiser of Paka187 saw her resplendent power.Vasava’s eyes dilated with wonder and he asked Bali. ‘Who is this one who is emerging, blazing inher own energy? Her bracelets and diadem are beautiful.’‘“Bali replied, ‘I do not know whether she is an asura maiden, a goddess or a human. O Vasava! Doas you wish and ask her yourself.’‘“Shakra asked, ‘O one with the beautiful smiles! O one with the diadem! O radiant one who isemerging from Bali! Who are you? I do not know you. Tell me your name. You are stationed herelike Maya,188 resplendent in your own energy. Who are you? O one with the beautiful eyebrows! Youhave abandoned the lord of the daityas. Tell me your true nature.’‘“Shri replied, ‘Virochana did not know me. Virochana’s son, Bali, does not know me. I am knownas Duhsaha and the learned know me as Vidhitsa.189 O Vasava! I am also known by the names Bhuti,Lakshmi and Shri.190 O Shakra! You do not know me. All the gods don’t know me.’‘“Shakra asked, ‘O Duhsaha! You have dwelt with Bali for a long time. Why are you abandoninghim now? Is it because of his acts or because of mine?’‘“Shri replied, ‘Dhata and Vidhata191 cannot control me. O Shakra! Time determines myprogressive movement. O Shakra! Do not show disrespect.’192‘“Shakra asked, ‘O one with the diadem! Why have you abandoned Bali? Why are you approachingme? O one with the sweet smiles! Tell me this.’‘“Shri replied, ‘I am established in truth, donations, vows, austerities, valour and dharma. Bali hasdeviated from these. He was devoted to brahmanas. He was truthful and in control of his senses. Buthe began to hate brahmanas and touched clarified butter with soiled hands.193 Earlier, he was devotedto the performance of sacrifices. However, he was afflicted by destiny and became foolish. He beganto boast to people that he was capable of performing sacrifices to me.194 O Shakra! O Vasava! I willtherefore abandon him and dwell with you. Bear me up without distraction and through austerities andvalour.’‘“Shakra said, ‘O one whose abode is a lotus! There is no single man amongst gods, humans oramongst all beings, who is capable of bearing you for ever.’‘“Shri replied, ‘O Purandara! Indeed, there is no single one amongst gods, gandharvas, asuras orrakshasas who is capable of bearing me for ever.’

Vol 9, Chapter 1549

O king! The lord of the gods spoke these words to Shri. ‘O one with thebeautiful smile! Who are you? For what purpose have you come here? O one with the excellentbrows! O fortunate one! From where have you come and where are you going?’‘“Shri said, ‘In the three worlds, all the mobile and immobile objects, those with supreme soulsdesire to be united with me and make efforts. I have been born from a lotus and awake at the rays ofthe sun. I bring prosperity to all beings. I am Padma Shri and I wear a garland of lotuses. O slayer ofBala! I am Lakshmi. I am Bhuti.211 I am Shri. I am Shraddha and Medha.212 I am Sannati, Vijiti andSthiti.213 I am Dhriti.214 I am Siddhi.215 I am Tvidbhuti.216 I am Svaha and Svadha. I am Samstuti,Niyati and Kriti.217 I station myself on the standards and at the forefront of the soldiers of victoriouskings.

To add to this discussion I would like to add a certain points which all Indologists n Historians agree upon

1) Vedas are undoubtedly the earliest of Texts, these were probably Either composed or were based on the memories of times when the entire Proto Indo European group stayed together (wherever they stayed not getting into AIT discussion)

2) Although the most widely accepted date for composition is 1500-1200BCE but this has been repeatedly challenged by multiple scholars both Indian n Western and even today most Greek Indologists states that at least the starting of Vedic compositions happened a thousand year earlier

3) The most important Gods of today like Brahma Vishnu Mahesh were minor deities to the Vedic Gods like Indra Agni Varuna, Vishnu was Upendra (or the Vice Indra) Shiv was Rudra with nearly no relation to anger and Brahma isn't even mentioned properly. Brahman of Vedas is supreme God n is different from Brahma.

4) Forget Krishna, the Vedic Samhitas (not the Aryanyakas) don't mention any of the Avtars of Vishnu excluding Baman Avtar. It might be interesting to know that Mahabharata mentions that Matasya Avtar was Brahma (and not Vishnu despite the book being a Vaishnavite book)

5) It is beyond doubt that by 1200 BCE Vedas reached an Apaurasheya (not humanly possible status) and no one dared to tamper it, hence post this time there has been no Interpolation in Vedas, not just the words but even the way of chanting remained same since then. It is still in Pre Panini Sansksrit and had absolutely no influence of the Bhasha by Panini (when all other books including even Upanishads n Brahmanas couldn't sustain that influx)

6) The high status of Vedas also meant that Vedic gurus started thinking that writing down the Vedas would mean an insult to Vedas so it was only orally transmitted. As per most Indologists they did start writing Vedas around 600BCE because henceforth we find a new term "Likhitpathaka" which means one who reads Vedic verses and those people were looked down not respected at all, however none of these Vedic books are available the earliest existing copy of RigVeda present today is of 15th century CE and is there in the BORI library

7) In the nutshell Vedas predate the era of a current belief system, humans which escalated to God's Avatars' status wasn't even born then. Their mention/absence in Vedas don't prove their existence/non existence

8) When the Vedic Gods started taking a back seat, their good n extraordinarines qualities was slowly transferred to these new chief Gods, the Trikaldarshiness of Varun went to Shiva while Varun had to manage with water portfolio, The Vice Indra (Upendra) Vishnu became the cause of victory of Indra everywhere even in his famous battle with Vritasur (the difference in death of Vritasur in Vedas n Vishnu Puran is the proof) similarly the Sri nature of Indra's wife went to Vishnu's wife. Saraswati river deity which sustained the mankind got reduced to least important of the Tridevis (probably also to do with drying of the Saraswati River)

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We must understand that Hinduism is a constantly evolving religion and that's the best part of it. We don't keep holding to a book for our knowledge n morality but are always open to new ideas.

Radha n Krishna love is one such evolution. The understanding of love beyond boundaries and acceptance in the society to teach everyone the greatness of loving beyond expectations.

Whether or Radha existed, her importance in Hinduism can't be ignored. At a time when Invaders were trying to make us hate our culture, our Gods who can't protect us, her story soothented them by the belief that God can be loved only when there isn't any expectations.

The belief is very personal thing n academic discussions are completely different and public

Suta this is another one for you

Radha chalisa and it's so soothing to hear it and we conduct bhajans on every Friday chanting this in home which gives positive vibration and Lakshmi nivas karte hain..

https://youtu.be/wvtoPqyYURs

With Corona , negativity we seen in 2020 and 2021 to be more positive.Sharing daily session conducted by speaking tree which is iscon foundation conducted

Question: In this complex world, is it possible to keep oneself away from negative influences? If yes, what is the minimum one can do to reduce the impact of negativity?

The human body and mind is continuously under the influence of its surroundings. The identity given to this body cannot survive without the outer influence. It is in the nature of the ‘human form’ to ‘sense’ the world around and form its own independent perception of it.

Remember, the famous festival of colours, Holi where happiness and joy in all the cities and villages is shared by throwing various colours on friends and family? If you go out of the house wearing clean, new white clothes, imagine what follows thereafter. You do not know which colour would be directed at you. Nor can you guess which friend is carrying which colour. Out there in the middle of the road surrounded by your friends, you can’t remain the same nor come away clean.

Their love and happiness will be amply demonstrated on your besmeared face and your colour stained clothes.

Hence, it is inevitable that being human and working in the world actively, one is bound to be impacted by one’s surroundings. There is no place or situation in life at any given moment in time that does not leave a positive or negative impression on you. So know here, all that surrounds you, influences your world within, thus imprinting an understanding; hence forming a judgment.

Good or bad, positive or negative impressions in your memory, express themselves as happy or sad states of your mind. Here, I want to emphasize that you are always surrounded by all the colours of life – good as well as bad. Both will influence your mind equally and on your ‘being’. It is you who has to make the choices. Please know that you will always find two kinds of friends in your life. One encouraging and guiding you; while the other discouraging and misguiding you.

One wants you to grow, to be true, and to be strong and has the freedom to criticize you alone to your face if required.

This will be your true positive friend! This friend will standby you in your difficult times - with no personal aims nor agenda. A true friend will never express his own unhappiness to you by distracting your mind. A true friend is one who is truly connected to you through the heart and will be ever ready to sacrifice for you. A true friend will never look for any appreciation from you and instead will be there just to guide you- with complete transparency within and without.

The other friend is an opportunistic, selfish and fake friend. This false friend is looking for some rewards through you. This false friend is intolerant to any disrespect shown to him by you. The false friend will appreciate you, hide your weakness from you. He will criticize you amongst others - but not to your face. They are associated with you, because of your status or aim at winning some favours from you.

Your thought gets influenced negatively thus harming yourself as well as others. You develop a dislike for the good. You feel yourself slipping away from your internal growth. They keep feeding your mind about someone else’s negative aspects; how bad that person is etc., thus mobilizing you to his own side; whereas a true friend provides a true understanding of that person or situation - in the most positive and healthy way - even it means criticizing his own self.

Your growth and well-being depends much on the people you spend your time with.

It is highly essential that you select the right people in your life. A true friend can make and form a great person out of you, whereas a false friend can break and destroy your very being. So, remember association matters immensely in your growth. Be wise and make your choices. Having no true friend in life is acceptable but having one false friend can be worrisome indeed.

Follow your heart, speak to your purest ‘Divine Friend’ within. Guidance will be delivered - above and beyond the positive-negative duality.

Open your arms, welcome and embrace the ‘Divine’!

Ps: this article is taken from Anahita Magazine,

By the way coming back to the show what's happening here now

Upcoming Siva thandav.

Leaving all logic , illogic ..Radha is on process of getting her memory back and hence Lord krishna is witnessing all memories from childhood , teenage abd highlight us 7 days Radha ll get memory back.

Not sure but may be show ll enter in mausala parva

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Originally posted by: mnx12

Both of them inspire jeevas. Without their grace, moksha is rarely possible.

6 lettered Radha devi's mantra is considered a chintamani (wish full filling) mantra.

In Goloka, among Rasa mandala, Krishna received this mantra first, followed by Vishnu, Brhma, Dharma...

Vaishnvas needs to worship Radha first, then Krishna. Since Radha is adhisthatri of Krishna's prana Krishna is always with Her.

Shri Narayan is rishi of mantras given in skandha 9 (except Durga devi), devata is Radha, Gayatri is chanda, Om is beeja, Bhuvaneshwari is shakti.

Then Narayan explains dhyana of Devi Radha.

The process to be followed is mentioned in Samaveda i e- 6 aavritis of mula mantra followed by shadanga nyasas.

Procedure of worship with Rajopachara is explained after this description. Followed by stotra of Radha devi.

Interested people can read this chapter from Shri Devi Bhagavat.

That clears the confusion then.

Very interesting discussion here transformed as a knowledge-based authentic clarification from our Channel Moderator and highly Knowledgeable Minakshi's intervention clears all mists and myths ultimately.

The main point in this entire discussion is, it shows the revered members' scholarly inquisitiveness to know what exactly the Radha story is... about her existence and the referring points.

Thank you, Mina and Flaunt.......for clearing the many doubts and helped us to safeguard the peace. 🤗🤗

Mina after a long time, today I got an opportunity to witness your immense knowledge through your erudite posts, on Mythological aspects. ❤️⭐️