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Originally posted by: ReadLo

You're right, except the Americans are logical in what they do!

And then Supernatural in each convention questions about respect for God are often asked.

The director explains what he thinks and apologizes (this is where he keeps the peace!)

For Lucifer, nothing mean to want to make the devil a good devil, after all he was an angel, so the same when it remains logical we accept!

While here nothing makes sense....

Director should have appeared daily n apologised publicly after every show ... why he fictionalised the sacred eternal love ... 😡🤔

Originally posted by: Sutapasima

Director should have appeared daily n apologised publicly after every show ... why he fictionalised the sacred eternal love ... 😡🤔

They put disclaimer in beginning na.... bus unka kaam khatam ..there work is done... now they can do anything as its their show.. sometimes its hard to believe its the same swastik that made MAHABHARAT😔

Originally posted by: Sutapasima

I thought we do have this documented in our Epics how Devi Sati created murti of Shivling n performed prayers ..then followed by Devi Parvati who created Shiv ling initially n prayed before serving lord Mahadev himself at Kailash ....

Also Lord Rama created Shiv ling with stone n sand n worshipped him and also later he created Murti of Goddess Durga Devi and prayed to her for seeking blessings n power before yudh with Ravan .

Only references of Lord Shiva n Goddess Durga find mention in the epics ... since The epics are about the Vishnu avatar himself ...

Lord Brahma ...very few worshipped him in Murti form ...

Please do correct me n my baby knowledge

I am not sure what era they are showing because they act like it's a costume play set in 2019. Historically, the problems with Puranas were, those were written as if forecasting the future and also were not written in correct order. So everything lies under the assumptions and research works by Historians. Like between the epics, Mahabharata was written before Ramayana although the time period portrayed in Ramayana was earlier between the two (Treta before Dwapar). [ Mahabharata was written in 3 steps in the timeline of 10th cen BC. to 4th cen AD. & Ramayana during 5th cent BC to 12th cent AD. according to research works and proofs presented by historians. ]

The character of Krishna was first mentioned in Mahabharata though the character of Radha is nowhere found in that epic. Krishna set out for Mathura to kill Kans in the age of 10. In Bhagbata Purana someone called pradhana gopi was mentioned but not the name Radha. The love story of Radha Krishna first widely came into light through Jaydeva's Geetgovind which was written in the 12th century (much much later than Mahabharata was written). There are many different versions in the folklores as well which were the reflectors of those contemporary societies. In shree krishna kirtan by badu chandidas, Krishna practically raped Radha when she was 11 and married. That's how their love story started in that saga. That was the society back then. And even in these days, we watch shows where the hero grabs the heroine by arms and manhandles her and people drool over it finding it romantic. In some lores, Radha was not married and Radha and Krishna were childhood friends and no mention of Ayan. In some stories Radha's husband was called Abhimanyu. Many eras, many states, numerous versions.

So we can't be sure about the exact era they are depicting. The cultural and traditional practice kept changing as per the location and time period in those days. Vedic period was different than the Indus valley civilization. As well the religious practice during Maurya dynasty and Gupta dynasty were different.

Considering the stone, many Brahmins to this day worship a stone named Shalgram Shila (Even my family does. I have seen it since childhood.) as lord Vishnu/Satyanarayan. But those stones are way smaller in size than the one they use in the show though the shape is similar. I have never heard about people worshiping rocks of that size. May be there were actually customs like that but I don't know because of my very limited knowledge. But yah what girlygeek said about the bedroom-temple confusion is spot on and really funny.

Krishna was born towards end of Dwapar yuga. All God's idols were available by that time. Except his own, all Divine form's were known including Vishnu's major incarnations- ansh avatar, aavesh avatar. All Mahavidyas, Sidhhavidyas idols were available. Durga ma's Katyayani form was worshiped by gopis.

Mahadev in his formless & idol form existed since Sat yuga.

Originally posted by: mnx12

Krishna was born towards end of Dwapar yuga. All God's idols were available by that time. Except his own, all Divine form's were known including Vishnu's major incarnations- ansh avatar, aavesh avatar. All Mahavidyas, Sidhhavidyas idols were available. Durga ma's Katyayani form was worshiped by gopis.

Mahadev in his formless & idol form existed since Sat yuga.

Dwapar yuga was the term during which years ? Just out of curiosity.

Mahadeva in his Pashupati form existed since the indus valley civilization. So I am assuming that was Satya Yuga i.e. about 2500 BC. ?

@stormborn, at Badrinath, Lord Vishnu's idol is made from Shaligram, which is almost 1 meter(3.3 ft) tall.

Originally posted by: stormborn

Dwapar yuga was the term during which years ? Just out of curiosity.

Mahadeva in his Pashupati form existed since the indus valley civilization. So I am assuming that was Satya Yuga i.e. about 2500 BC. ?

Dwapar yuga ended almost 5000 years back & Kali yuga started.

Please check all posts here.

/forum/devon-ke-dev-mahadev/2816918/the-time-yuga-calculation

Originally posted by: mnx12

Dwapar yuga ended almost 5000 years back & Kali yuga started.

Please check all posts here.

/forum/devon-ke-dev-mahadev/2816918/the-time-yuga-calculation

Ok. So Krishna was born in about 3000 BC in the Neolithic age (new stone age) even though he was first mentioned in the Mahabharata written after 1000 BC ? Even much before the Vedas came into light (1500 to 500 BC) ? Are we talking in story terms or as actual occurrences (because no evidence of horses in India has been found from before 1600 BC. ) ?

I am taking it as a fictional world mentioned in the stories and that sounds interesting. I will read more about it in time.

Anyway if it was meant as a real-time incident, I should stop here because I was speaking taking historical facts into consideration and not devotional belief. And most of the Neolithic evidences are still buried. So I would give it the benefit of doubt and stop. Let's just agree to disagree. 😊

Can anyone comment on today Ayan touching Radha n Krishn is oblivious of everything... i skip kans portion.. but he was suggesting ayan to get physical with radha .. is what i get🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

In reality Ayan cannot even touch RADHAs shadow and he was a good man.... but this version is asur.. he touched narayani with his filthy hands...making her all uncomfortable and krishn was sitting there peacefully...as he knew nothing ...his only goal is to make radha confess that she still loves him.. iske alawa krishn ko koi lena dena nahi... again that shit started.. i will come only when u will ask for me .. taking my name...🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ in precap.. he will confront him .. why u took my name not ur ashtra shatra husband... 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Good morning friends. Thanks a lot for the info you all shared here regarding the ancient time's Idol worship,[ idolatrism] and the importance given to images of God at that time. Grateful to my friends who shared their knowledge and views here with all of us.❤️🤗

There are many references regarding the idol worship in Puranas, Upanishads and Ithihasas, Smritis and Samhitas.

But Vedas preaches differently regarding this idol worship [ sharing the info here from Vedas] ---

"There is no image of Him. He is unborn and He should be worshipped" (Yajurveda, Chapter 32, Verse 3)

"God is bodyless and pure" (Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 8)

I think nature worship was started by the ancient man [ God] because of the stunning power of the Sun, Milk Ocean[ Antarctica??? ], and volcanic eruptions etc , they thought that nature is all powerful and even Gods asked the Rishis to worship the Ashta Digpalaks first before starting penance or Yaga or Yajna!

But Vedas taught us differently--

Monotheism in Rigveda

"Say this, all one God in many names" (Rigveda, Book 1, Hymn 164, Verse 46)

"Do not worship anyone besides him alone, praise him alone" (Rigveda, Book 8, Hymn 1, Verse 1)

"Praise him would matchless and alone" (Rigveda, Book 6, Hymn 45, Verse 16)

From Bhagavad Gita

"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship demigods" (Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 7, Verse 20)

But as far as we know, Idol worship is a part of Hinduism, to be precise, a part of many religions, A star, and the moon crescent, in the form of nature they worship him, in the form of Cross, they worship Him and his sacrifice, in the form of Book, the Guru Granth they worship, and in many of our houses we keep Bhagavad Gita in the place of worship .

Idol worship was always a part of Indian culture. In our ancient Indus Valley, civilization (3500-1500 BC) people were believed to worship the early form of Shiva-- a stone.

Will be back and share more info with you .

Today my husband invited a bunch of bachelors for watching the match and dinner . So I am a bit busy, will be back to read and write .

At last, we have here many learned friends, I am very happy to be here.