Nov. 1st: The House of Lies Crumbles - Page 3

Originally posted by: J2lover

Damn, you don't just watch the show, as for mere recreation, do you? Because, the underlying meaning you derive from each episode, is very deep and intriguing!👏

Love love love, what you said, about the castle of lies first of all! Though honestly, 10 mins, after the episode ended, out of my sheer love for krishna, balram and the troop, i was disappointed and amused, that how can LORD'S PLAN EVER FALTER! But then, after gaining a perspective, i feel, that's the message they want to give! I mean, the blame game they played today, was somewhere off the limits, especially, putting all the accusations on ayan! Couldn't they have simply manipulated the groom into saying something else? They anyways, made him say, what they wanted him to say! So, yes, the 'balram and friends' drama wasn't really needed, according to me!

@bold: Haha I suspect that is the problem for many folks...because he is the Lord himself, it is difficult to watch him losing or faltering...ppl expect him to be omniscient and above everything but the show has taken a unique tack in showing God in a different way...a God who tries to teach through example by showing himself faltering as well so that humans can step up to the plate and make choices for themselves.

Though, i THROUGHLY enjoyed the NAUTANKI to the fullest!😆😆 That hug, balram gave to krishna and then the 'DAU, ADHIK HO RHA HAI' bit, simply cracked me up!😆 Such a perfect duo they are!❤️

LOL oh yes, these scenes were damn hilarious and the brothers ki nautanki chemistry was totally shining through even as they were going overboard with the drama😆...Krishna being all, "thoda zyada ho gaya, Dau" was the funniest bit. 😆

Coming to radha, till yesterday's episode, i always saw radha as the STUDENT of KRISHNA! STUDENT in the SENSE, krishna creates such situations every time, that there is a HIDDEN MESSAGE every time at the very END! Right from POT BREAKING in their very first meeting, to the 'room giving' scenario, even, her 'faking friendship' scenario, krishna is doing nothing but, PREACHING HER SOMETHING SUBTLY! Even in yesterday's episode, he made it look like SHE IS THE CULPRIT,So that the drama coils up to, sudevi confessing into her LOVE, which would eventually happen sooner or later!

But, my only problem with radha is, she isn't open to different opinions! According to her,whatever krishna does, HE'S BLATANTLY WRONG! If not being approving, atleast she should mellow down a bit! why she has to be 'jhansi ki rani' every time!😆 The precap, irked me because, the underlying MOCKING she had in her tone, just got me! Poor lord was already teary-eyed, and here she comes to 'RUB SALT ON HIS WOUNDS'!😭

LOL again, this is the attachment to Lord Krishna that is making you extra sensitive to these things I feel😆...I don't think she was mocking him...she was hurt and upset and Krishna DID keep smirking and mocking HER in the entire charade yesterday...bhool gayi? 😆...how do we get so blind in our love for Krishna that we can't call him out for when he does some extra mocking too? 😆...let's all also recall his teaching about being too attached to something, no?

Ofcourse it pinches when Radha misunderstands him but at the same time the fact remains that he goes out of his way to keep fueling her mistrust too...we have to keep the larger purpose in the back of our minds to be able to view this in the overall sense.

Radha is closed to Krishna's perspective because of the WAY he presents it...and the fact that he mostly lies in front of her blatantly...when you mistrust someone, you do become close minded to their perspective...it's human nature...until you begin to trust someone, know someone, you don't open up your mind. Everyone has their own time for how long it takes to trust someone.

How do we forget that she DOES mellow the instant she feels that he is in pain or in trouble? Tears flow spontaneously from her eyes in such moments...like when he was faking his fainting drama, she was actually upset for him and he was enjoying it😆, then later on, her relief at him being safe from Kansa's army...so can we really say this Radha is always close minded?

She is more defensive than anything else when it comes to Krishna...she is soft-hearted otherwise but gets defensive whenever he tries to preach to her or give her gyaan on love...lol because she feels he's a trickster who traps her in his tricks and nobody likes losing control...so many times she's been lost in his eyes like most recently during the dance...she doesn't understand where that emotion is coming from so she is defensive and irritable about it.

I know, its just the beginning though, THE WHOLE CRUX OF THE STORY, IS THE CLASH BETWEEN THESE TWO CHARACTERS! So, to keep the drama intact, this would go on!

I agree about the 'KRISHNA PLAYING DUAL ROLE' part! He's the ULTIMATE PUPPETEER after all! That's what makes KRISHNA a very very INTERESTING DIVINE BEING! In spite of being the ALMIGHTY, he doesn't fit in or behave like one! Especially THIS KRISHNA! HE LIES, HE PRETENDS, HE STEALS, HE MANIPULATES, HE CHEATS AND STILL AT THE END 'HE WINS'!😎 He's like a perfect POLITICIAN of today's times!😆 Minus, he isn't SELFISH,😆 and does all this out of sheer love for MANKIND!

I loved the metaphor you stated about 'All characters RUN to Kanha for help'! That's something, the universe is born with, no? THE WEAK ONE ALWAYS LOOKS UP TO THE SUPERIOR ONE,FOR HELP! Yet, here we are talking about THE SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD! I like, how krishna pretends to be all helpless and weak in front of others, but amongst his friends, HE'S THEIR SAVIOUR! That's the SAKHA krishna for you!😳 THE 'ORIGINAL' KRISHNA IS NOTHING BUT A 'FRIEND' before being ANYONE!😳

The most interesting thing about Krishna will always be his multi-faceted personality...he can take on so many faces, can manipulate, lie, cheat, yet still command so much respect and regard...precisely because at the end of the day he does it for the love of mankind. There is too much within him for us mere humans to understand so easily...so bechaari Radha can be cut some slack especially when she doesn't know she's dealing with the Lord himself😆

Originally posted by: musicalstorm

I say Krishna is the soul rest everything is useless. Sudevi has to speak up. God help those who help themselves. Why everytime we have to hear the society. They are not living our life.

Radha is anti love because of the society. The society will talk about everything but not love. Krishna talks nothing except love. There starts the problem. Krishna says love is the weapon to conquer me and we don't love him. We pray give offerings, but for Krishna love is the biggest offering.

I want to say a lot but it will get out of the topic

Originally posted by: sargam.

Yes,i absoultely agree.I would have felt or behaved the same way as Radha is doing,its just may be a devotee's heart who asks,how can someone be so angry on Krishna :D

Your thoughts and posts are as beautiful as the show,they're very deep and really nice to read...:-)

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Originally posted by: Lodestar

Loved reading the povs on this thread. For me it was a very interesting episode.

What I had guessed regarding Krishn's goal after previous epi is what is happening.

Though Krishn & Balram tried to wiggle out of all the blame their deception still got revealed.

Kudos to Radha for actually using the emotional blackmail technique of swearing on Mom to get the truth out from Balram. Though it was blackmail but both bros had left no option with her.

She would not have stuck so adamantly at proving herself right if Krishn Balram had just tried to escape their role in the groom swap drama. But the way they went an extra mile to put all the blame on Ayan was what broke her patience.

I don't understand how anybody can still point fingers at Radha for what she did. Yes she is close minded about love & wants to lead life by society's rules. She believes she is helping her friend by doing all this. So I find her right in her stance.

Also her negative opinion of Krishn is based on real instances where he always tricks her & dupes her.

So it's natural that she would scold him for his misdeeds. But she does that also with so much haq. Though she is not shown as divine as Krishn himself right now but even she is trying to teach him, scold him & to learn from his mistakes. Isn't that what a person who cares about us does? Try to show us when they feel we are wrong & help us correct our mistakes. Tough love is sometimes required to shape a person.

The true test in this entire drama is of Bhairav & Sudevi's love. Is their love strong enough to withstand against society? Krishn had initially asked them to talk with their parents & solve the issue. But they didn't due to societal pressure. His friend asked him for his help so he did. But ultimately if they both don't fight for their love together what can the Lord do? They have to help themselves & that is how God will help them.

The current forum opinion against 'anti- love' Radha is so interesting. I have no idea about the scriptures & how RadhaKrishn are portrayed as lovers in them. I just know them as the famous eternal lovers. The show is portraying both of them in layered ways. Krishn though is in human form but he knows himself to be divine. He knows he is the Lord almighty. He knows Radha as his lover. We as audience also know it. Hence it is easier for us to ignore his misdeeds because we know that ultimately he is the Lord & is doing all the lying, cheating for higher purpose.

Radha is the one who has forgotten her divine existence as well as her love & lover Krishn. She is a naive sheltered girl who is the daughter of village head who has been taught to have high moral expectations of herself. She knows love but only as a daughter, family & friend. She believes she will find love with her husband after marriage. She doesn't understand love as a lover. She has not experienced that yet. So she doesn't understand it's power & it's depth.

At this stage in the story Radha has only seen negative side of Krishn. So why would she support or trust him blindly. Also she gets extra stubborn against Krishn because she feels an elemental connection with him which she doesn't understand. So she becomes extra defensive against him & goes on offence. Once she begins understanding Krishn & starts trusting him then only she can open her heart & mind towards Krishn & love. This is the central core against which plots are woven. Their journey has just started yet people expect seeing what would be the ultimate result of the story I.e. a loving RadhaKrishn jodi at the start itself. If that happens then what story will be left? Until the creators don't lose the grip on the story & continue to provide interesting episodes, I don't think any change in characterizations is required yet.

Also as most people see Krishn as God & are his devotees it does sting them if someone criticizes them which is what Radha is currently doing. So they are feeling unsatisfied as the Radha shown is not how she has been depicted in scriptures. Their stance interestingly reminds me of the first episode & Krishn's devotee Shreedhama. How he could not take that Krishn gives so much importance to Radha even above himself. Hope that audience will give time for the story & characters to develop rather than closing their minds to the creators version of the story. Otherwise they are coming across as the very same "close minded Radha" that they claim they are disappointed with in the show.

Originally posted by: J2lover

Well, i always had this doubt, whether, radha being a goddess, also would be having divine powers?🤔, which she would be realising after she remembers everything?!😕 I am sorry, but i am not much of a mytho reader!