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chicksoup

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Posted: 10 years ago

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Originally posted by: simran_singh_24

Soup, why should Jannat try to remember?As KK said somewhere, she's trying to fix her relationship with her husband.I agree she has no feelings for Shaad as a person, he's usurping her feelings for her real husband.I think, it's the only trait of Sanam that Jinnat has, being loyal & committed to her husband.
She has no reason to doubt just bcoz a stranger with a bad reputation with women, who tries to get closer to someone's wife asks her uncomfortable questions.That's what Ahil is for her rational mind.
A sane woman could see his questionings as his attempt to get fresh with her.That's what Jinnat does.Ahil deserves all the rudeness he gets from her and after her recovery i want Snaam to slap him hard multiple times in public.😡
I won't blame Jinnat for not being honest with her feelings or listening to her heart etc.Weighed against her marriage to a loving husband,that's what Shaad faked,her fatal attraction to another man is insignificant.
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Then she should stop thinking of those Qs. Who am I? What were my parents like? It is not about just her husband. She must have had a world beyond 'him' and the bed she has to share with him.😉😆

Jannat knows she is into this as much as Ahil is. She has feelings she cannot deny. he acted upon those feelings and wished it was Ahil she had married. She was disappointed to find Shaad there.If she still thinks it is only Ahil who is at fault here...she is lying again. Plus she is ignoring those clues- how does she know this guy's favorite dish? Where the salt is kept in the house? Agreed- Mahaan character also ignored those clues- but he is not the one who is a soulmate.😆

She wouldn't even look at the photo...or listen to him...

I don't think Ahil will be available for Sanam to slap when her memory returns.😆 God! I really hope he forgets her. And she will remember all the times she taunted him-...Ah! If only! 😆

And if only they didn't drag it like they did this track and the Sanam Return track.🥱

My interest is steadily waning...Sahil, I still look forward to- Everything else irks me...including the relocated AsYa Kabrs.

Well, whatever. There is no way THEY ARE NOT DRAGGING this further...🥱

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chicksoup

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Posted: 10 years ago

#22

IMO, the colour black signifies mourning.

And also, welcoming back some dark traits probably.😉

Whatever! 🥱

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JShukla

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Posted: 10 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: simran_singh_24

Soup, why should Jannat try to remember?As KK said somewhere, she's trying to fix her relationship with her husband.I agree she has no feelings for Shaad as a person, he's usurping her feelings for her real husband.I think, it's the only trait of Sanam that Jinnat has, being loyal & committed to her husband.

She has no reason to doubt just bcoz a stranger with a bad reputation with women, who tries to get closer to someone's wife asks her uncomfortable questions.That's what Ahil is for her rational mind.

A sane woman could see his questionings as his attempt to get fresh with her.That's what Jinnat does.Ahil deserves all the rudeness he gets from her and after her recovery i want Snaam to slap him hard multiple times in public.😡

I won't blame Jinnat for not being honest with her feelings or listening to her heart etc.Weighed against her marriage to a loving husband,that's what Shaad faked,her fatal attraction to another man is insignificant.

exactly Sim, Jannat can hardly be blamed for anything. I guess a couple of us earlier too have said- she is like a drunk wife at a pub who is creating a racket and her husband is letting her. Shad is a stranger, a nobody. So naturally he will look out for 'his' interests. And no his claims that he only wants Jannat's Khushi does not count coz he does not act according to his words(why administer sleeping pills to a mentally unsound woman- he could have just run away and claimed he was in pursuit of SK. he didn't coz he still wants to not become the bad guy/husband for Jannat. Again all about him) But Aahil has been shown to be extremely caring for his family. As Sim says he wouldn't dump Sanam if she catches common cold, so why should he dump her now? BTW is he planning to dump her? (Coz I haven't caught with episodes for 2 weeks so don't know, just segments are enough to repel me). Shad may or may not tell her the truth. but why should Aahil not tell her. HE is her husband, not Shad.

And both men have acted very irresponsibly. Shad , I don't care. But Aahil- the husband who claims he loves her to bits?? letting a woman make a spectacle of herself, just coz she is not in her senses. Don't we cover up for our loved ones even when they are hell bent to make a fool of themselves??

the last bold part of your post- exactly my feeling and I think this is what the makers are trying to show in all of Jannat's monologues.

Dil-E-Pagalpan - Nice post and thank for the PM.

Soup- So I understand Shad cried and you melted😲🤢

Are you telling me he cries better than Aahil😲

Edited by JShukla - 10 years ago

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simran_singh_24

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Posted: 10 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: JShukla
exactly Sim, Jannat can hardly be blamed for anything. I guess a couple of us earlier too have said- she is like a drunk wife at a pub who is creating a racket and her husband is letting her. Shad is a stranger, a nobody. So naturally he will look out for 'his' interests. And no his claims that he only wants Jannat's Khushi does not count coz he does not act according to his words(why administer sleeping pills to a mentally unsound woman- he could have just run away and claimed he was in pursuit of SK. he didn't coz he still wants to not become the bad guy/husband for Jannat. Again all about him) But Aahil has been shown to be extremely caring for his family. As Sim says he wouldn't dump Sanam if she catches common cold, so why should he dump her now? BTW is he planning to dump her? (Coz I haven't caught with episodes for 2 weeks so don't know, just segments are enough to repel me). Shad may or may not tell her the truth. but why should Aahil not tell her. HE is her husband, not Shad.

And both men have acted very irresponsibly. Shad , I don't care. But Aahil- the husband who claims he loves her to bits?? letting a woman make a spectacle of herself, just coz she is not in her senses. Don't we cover up for our loved ones even when they are hell bent to make a fool of themselves??

the last bold part of your post- exactly my feeling and I think this is what the makers are trying to show in all of Jannat's monologues.

Dil-E-Pagalpan - Nice post and thank for the PM.

Soup- So I understand Shad cried and you melted😲🤢😡

Are you telling me he cries better than Aahil😲

Juhi- I don't know what the makers want to show other than some sleaze.If i see Jaant's rudeness to Ahil as her defence against a much married man, trying to rock her marriage and her entire value system, it's perfectly fine. i say more power to Jinnat!

If we look at her defensive actions as her lack of love or respect for Ahil's feelings we could get offended,But if you see it as someone's struggle for her values,marriage,commitment etc , it's not wrong at all.i empathise with her rudeness, probably it's the only way she could think of to keep Ahil away & be true to her deep rooted values. what will the poor woman do?Her fake husband is BFF with the stranger.

Her belittling Ahil's love for Sanam is also cool with me.Most men attempt EMA by trying to some sympathy from women, either by bitching about their wives or moaning about the great love they lost. Jinnat could view Ahil's Sanma chant in this light .

Does Ahil really know his wife No1?

She didn't give up on him,when he was at his worst, post Aher and how can he expect her to give up on her current husband? i didn't connect with Sanam's pain then.She chose to suffer in silence instead of outing her con-sister and fixing her marriage. ahil is doing the same,with similar lame excuses.That's why don't care for his feelings.

Sanam is let down by her husband badly.

What will he do if she never regains her memory?

This whole track is absurd.

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simran_singh_24

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Posted: 10 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

But just coz one is wearing black doesn't associate with negativity or villain. When it is done in contrast or obvious context yes, but whenever a guy or girl wears black it is villain or negative? How many men where black bandhgala or black pathani suits regularly? That is everyday life.Just because one wears them doesn't mean it proves anything about villainy. That is simply a regular outfit.

Then all the white pathanis Aahil wears as night wears on the show means he's good and angelic then.

Anytime heroes are dressed up in bandhdala or black pathanis or sherwanis or black outfits, that is also meant to convey...what?

SK is wearing simple white saree with colored borders telling audience of her plan to get rid of Shaad in today's 7:30 slot announcement.. She is good and not evil.

Everyone who wears black is not a villain, but villains are most likely to wear black. In this show

they've used colours symbolically to hint at the characters' traits. Ofc, they trash the symbolism few months down the line.It's true for few episodes.If you recall,during Rehan-Tanveer reveal he was wearing grey in the graveyard and he was a suspicions character for a while.

SK wearing white, i'll interpret her as an evil ghost and not an angel. I'm conditioned to see white ghosts not orange ones.😆 may be they want people to see SK as Tanveer's ghost? a blast from from past?

SK in her intro as Mizba wore black & red, meaning blood & mystery/evil, IMO.

I see ahil in white also as a ghost, a ghost of his former self, who roams around his wretched house co-habitating with a witch.

Black- also signifies power & mystery.And in QH only the villains have power. jannt wore black too😆

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Mandy

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Posted: 10 years ago

#26

@Simran:

Totally agree! The track is absurd! It's just like towards the end of Season2, we wondered about why exactly, Sanam, Rehan and Seher were not confiding in Aahil about what they know about Tanveer? Why are they not bringing proof of her misdeeds? They were stretching it like a piece of string and it started to become illogical. We started to see less and less logic and reasoning behind the hiding of the truth about Tanveer, and also Seher's existence! There Sanam chose to hide the truth from Aahil even when it was beyond logical reasoning, and we started to say that even Sanam2's foot-hold is partly due to her inaction, and started to feel less sympathy for her plight and diss her inaction! She started to look like the lost and wronged wife fighting a lone battle. Same thing happening to Aahil now. At least Sanam had Seher and Rehan. Aahil has no one, only his Major friend! :)

Again...the same thing is happening. Aahil is also choosing to hide the truth from Sanam due to her mental state etc etc, and now BFF with her fake husband! On top of that, Sanam / Jannat is daily messing her head and life up more and more. They just want to keep stretching this track to show some sleaze, more negativity, more killings, conspiracies, Sanam2 cheapness and black magic. That is all it's in aid of. Story wise it make NO sense whatsoever, and that is why I am over this nonsense and find it hard to sympathize with any of these characters now! Logic be damned, the whole thing makes no sense at all.

I read somewhere that 28 days have gone in the story? So where was Jannat sleeping all these days and how many more times did she attempt SR with Shaad and not succeed? I guess they conveniently swept that one under their massive rug? LOL.

Dil-E-Pagalpan - Thanks for the PM. Great topic.

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JShukla

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Posted: 10 years ago

#27

^^ Yes Sim... I do not find her rudeness to Aahil misplaced.

what are her options considering that she feels she is a woman married to a great loving guy , but feels an uncontrollable pull to another guy.

1. So she does not feel as hot and bothered around her good guy as she feels around this stranger Aahil. Off course she would want to douse this feeling. Do we expect her to act on these feelings? Go all out and have fun with this supposedly stranger who is too hot to resist? Why should she feel that the pull she feels towards Aahil is because she has a past connection to him and not because she feels turned on by his obviously hot personality.(fan- girling..again.. Juhi... sigh)

2. tell her much loving husband that she feels a pull towards Aahil..gasp.. and jeopardize her marriage some more which she feels she already has by keeping away physical intimacy and forgetting the efforts Shad must have made for her before her memory loss?

3. Suddenly realize that this is infact her home, Not knowing Shad's size(did the men tell her that is Aahil's size? as far as I know she attributed that to unskilled tailor), knowing Aahil's allergies, place of salt at IM do not add up when none of the residents of IM, people of Bhopal etc. have shown any indications of knowing her. So she dismisses them while being confused about them.

It is upto Aahil to get his mentally unsound wife treated. Get a detailed CT Scan and other tests done. Show her proofs of their marriage. bring her in proximity to people who knew her before marriage. Thank Shad for saving her life and show him the door.😆

Mandy, I could partially understand why SaSehan did not confide about Tanveer's evilness to Aahil earlier. It made for a dramatic confrontation, but Sanam not confiding about Seher's existence was stupid. And similarly stupid is Aahil not getting his sick wife treated.

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boss

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Posted: 10 years ago

#28

More than Jannat and shaad i am angry at AHIL because of his stupidity and lack of actions...

but the harsh truth is ...Aahil will only act/do something whenever C.V's wants him to act...

during revenge track...aahil's character was butchered pathetically and he had nothing to do except crying...because c.v's wanted their fav seher to do all the work and become the hero...

same during billo's death ...aahil had nothing to do except crying because c.v's wanted their twin and zoya's ghost to kill billo...

same thing is happening now...aahil now has nothing to do except crying and repeating his..."YAHH MAULA" jaap ...coz c.v's wants shaad to do all the work and become the unofficial hero...because C.v's are in mission "developing Triangle" and "white washing shaad"...

so we can't give all the blames to aahil...because from day 1 he was the fav pawn of cv's...😆

the only time aahil behaved like a hero was during the dharamsala track ...when c.v's badly needed some good numbers in terms of TRP's...😆

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darkice7_12

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Posted: 10 years ago

#29

Thanks for the PM.

In this track, I think both Aahil and Jannat/Sanam are positive in their own ways, but I have more sympathy for Aahil.

Despite of what I personally think of that lame as* explanation of hiding the truth from an amnesiac patient for their own good, that is what the CVs have decided as the "rule". Despite how much this is hurting Aahil, he believes that he will hurt Sanam by telling her the truth. He would rather he hurt himself, over and over again, rather than endanger her health. What has he done in order to ensure her safety once he found her? He brought her back to Bhopal, he's brought her into his home and "befriended" the man who she trusts, and has made that man come over to his side. Not the best choices, but the only choices he could make in this scenario with these unbreakable rules that the CVs have written.

As for Jannat, it hurts to see the Sanam we know belittle and hurt Aahil, but she doesn't know him as hers. She is desperately trying to hold onto the only truth she has been told, and is acting in such a way to keep herself (mind and body) safe. Her behavior is designed to make Aahil hate her so that she can't be tempted by him coming too close to her. As others have pointed out, she got a traumatic brain injury, yet never once have we seen her go to a hospital. Who knows? Continuing fallout from that injury could explain her changing behavior or we can blame the CVs. If I found myself feeling what I thought went against my ethics, I would tend to lash out, as well. What I can blame her for is not being honest with herself and I can blame her for not forgetting this jhanjat with the two men in her life and how no one has told her the truth (boo hoo), and actually getting off her butt and going out into the world to find her own truths. Stop depending on others, woman!

The only one I do blame for this situation is Shaad. He created the lie. He perpetuated it. He then freely told Jannat the truth in a letter when he fell in love, but won't do anything now. He is the one who needs to speak up or create the distance needed between him and Jannat, so that she would find it easy to trust him less.

Edited by darkice7_12 - 10 years ago

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Aahana.

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Posted: 10 years ago

#30

All I hav to say is jannat is not a mad women...she is a sick women..there is difference between mad women and sick women..so people get tht right first...

within jannat ther is sanam hidden who is loyal for her husband...this trait is sanam's so jannat is loyal to her husband...stress on husband

and jannat is lied by this major in Pakistan ..tht he is her husband...

yesterday's episode we see jannat saying it loud to herself why am I having feelings for aahil.. I am doing wrong..and I am being unfaithful to my husband

some peple here are saying she is mad ..becoz she feels for 2 prople..

I say no..

she doen't feel for shad...she only knows that he is her husband and she stongly feels for aahil..so she is trying her best to be close to shad to seduce shad and wht not..but still her heart beats for aahil..it was clearly shown in yeaterday's episode

and she also says again she cant control her feelings she has to decide somethg so she brings those pak tickets..and trys her best to not deceit her husband again stress on husband ..tht is sanam who is struggling within her ..

basically its chemical locha of this women..😆 and the two mem simply playing with her lik a toy..

gul always disrespects women in her show..shows women a pathetic way..and men as idiots thts all..

Edited by surbhiholic-1 - 10 years ago