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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: simran_singh_24

^^ What doesn't make sense to me is,why would Tanveer willingly spend so many years in jail for a murder she didn't commit?


When she had everything under her control,including the heir, why would she live away from her " jigar ka thukuda"?

Abt Nawab, there's a conspiracy theory of him becoming the next Siddqui, of Siddiqui-Tanveer jodi.😆


LOL, when, where and how did the Nawab manage to get Tanveer's daughter stolen? 😆

12 saal became 20 saal. Okay. Okay, so either Nawab escaped or could contact people to know about her pregnancy and delivery and to get the child taken away from her. Or, this was during another jail stint of hers... In which case, LMAO...what was he doing bringing her home, marrying her, and then 'being forced by her to abuse his son.'


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: simran_singh_24

^^ What doesn't make sense to me is,why would Tanveer willingly spend so many years in jail for a murder she didn't commit?


When she had everything under her control,including the heir, why would she live away from her " jigar ka thukuda"?

Abt Nawab, there's a conspiracy theory of him becoming the next Siddqui, of Siddiqui-Tanveer jodi.😆


The Nawab had to be done away with...once he knew her truth.
Someone had to take the blame for murdering him...
She did..because it was also a way to enslave Aahil for the rest of his life.
She had a good time in the Prison, save the time her daughter was taken away from her...Otherwise she was allowed those special calls at 4 PM etc.
Anyhow, it never made sense that she spent all those years in the prison even if the Nawab had been really dead, because she could have easily framed someone...the only motive was to make Aahil indebted to her.

The Q is, For how long was she married to the Nawab until he found out about her.
Billi Jr- Is that the Nawab's kid?
If so, why isn't he getting that daughter back?
And how did he come to snatch away the daughter if he had been kidnaped right from the time Tanveer was jailed!!!

Or was this another jail term? Was the kid born before he married her?
Doesn't make sense!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

Soup. I said from the time Nawab came back, that all they had to do was say he introspected and repented during his time in captivity. Instead, they had to go make a sob story.

Anyway Aahil should be his own man. So far, he doesn't let his father push him around or take the decisions. When Nawab tried to take up for Sanam2, Aahil didn't have any of it. He repeated his decision and went futher, and that was it.

Keep Aahil his own man.



We seem to be thinking alike quite a lot.😆
Aahil will be his own man.
The Nawab is there just to make sure Sanam 2 is around since she is feigning pregnancy...and he is suddenly saintly white and benevolent.🥱

Aahil will be his own man...the holy thread will see to that. Sanam just got it in time for him to be saved from the evil eye...when she is not around.😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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CS- Ahil was already under her control, thr' kheer. He was too young and easy to mould in to a devoted son, w.o her going to prison.
KK- IMO, Baby Billi is Rehan's twin. and Nawab found about the kids around the same time and Rehan ran away to play while they managed to capture little Misbha.😆


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: simran_singh_24

CS- Ahil was already under her control, thr' kheer. He was too young and easy to mould in to a devoted son, w.o her going to prison.

KK- IMO, Baby Billi is Rehan's twin. and Nawab found about the kids around the same time and Rehan ran away to play while they managed to capture little Misbha.😆



😲 Rehaan's twin?

😆 Interesting theory.
But they showed Tanveer going into labour and that baby being handed over to a man...

I think Rehaan would be only 2 or 3 years younger to Aahil. This girl Misbah must be younger to the zias

Aahil was devoted...but he was not indebted. She was a good mother..not on a pedestal. Owning up to his crime and going to jail elevated her to saint status.🤢
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Simran, I agree with you that Aahil would've still handed everything to her if she had pinned the murder on someone else and raised Aahil as a mother.

But she had other plans. 1) She's always been the one to bring about her own downfall. So, she had to take this longer, complicated route just like she had let her own personality and irrationality (once Sanam was revealed as Zoya's daughter) come forth and ruin her plans,

She wanted to make sure he would forever be indebted to her. Not only that, she had done it in a way to mould Aahil in the way she wanted (or so she thought). As she said to Rehan, a heart barren like a desert. If she had just played the good mother, she would not have been able to do that with him. It was grounded in his guilt and debt, which she used to mould and train in him in the way she wanted.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

Simran, I agree with you that Aahil would've handed everything to her if she had pinned the murder on someone else, and raised him as a mother.

But she had other plans. 1) She's always been the one to bring about her own downfall. So, she had to take this longer, complicated route just like she had let her own personality and irrationality (once Sanam was revealed as Zoya's daughter)come forth and ruin her plans,

She wanted to make sure he would forever be indebted to her. Not only that, she had done it in a way to mould Aahil in the way she wanted (or so she thought). As she said to Rehan a heart barren like a desert. If she had just played the good mother, she would not have been able to do that with him, it was grounded in his guilt and debt, which she used to mould and train in him in the way she wanted.


@ Blue: 👏 U put it so well.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Nice post CS!

I really enjoyed the discussion between: KK - SS and CS. 👍🏼
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chicksoup


(This one is about Tanveer and Aahil...been stalling it for some time. This is for U, vm17🤗)

Tanver Beig- A woman who hunted for a man to give her respectability- something she could never earn on her own. Lies, Deception, Cold blooded murder- There was no end to the devices she chose as she furiously pursued that evasive dream.

Four Men:

Imran Qureshi- Who had flown like a fly into her trap, but had escaped only because her attention had shifted on to greener pasture- The Lucky Guy.

Asad Ahmed Khan- The man who paid with his life and that of his family as he emphatically rejected her over and over again.

Gafur Ahmed Siddiqui- A repentant father who made a mockery of his whole life when he gave up his honour in exchange of the child he had abandoned once...

Nawab Raza Ibrahim: The moth to the flame- the man banished into a life of non existence as he succumbed to the charms of a wolf in sheep's clothing- swallowing her lies...acting on her advice..until one day he stumbled on her truth...and that cost him a large part of his life.

(Many a times I have wondered aloud here why the Nawab never featured in Tanveer's list of murders as she recapped all those horrible deaths she brought about...and now I have my answer! Resurrecting him was probably just a matter of convenience...but in retrospect, there never was a scene beyond Tanveer pointing the gun at him. So he was the last resort she had kept hidden...one cannot help but wonder why she did not put a gun to his head to get everything she wanted...or even use Aahil as a ransom...I suppose it can be explained away as her need for respectability...a position in the society.. . She did not want to be known as a plunderer...wanted to be the rightful owner of the wealth with all the respect that came as the black widow who took her husband's life to save her stepson from torture...and how proud she was when Aahil named that Street after her...she was on top of the world right then. For her, that one award was worth all the trouble she went through, I suppose)

Aahil has now closed a chapter in his life. Interestingly, he has not torn it off. He will not deny that it existed, nor will he ignore it. It is VERY MUCH A PART OF HIS LIFE...will always be. She is the mother he remembers...she might have devastated him, but he cannot forsake the memories of a mother who had been kind to an orphaned boy. How right was Sanam to try and break it to him as gently as possible...And Haya to have prayed for the strength for him to bear with the ugliest truth in his life.

Tanveer cleverly manipulated Aahil all his life to the extent of destroying him. She tried to corrupt his soul, pushing him towards all the vices..under the pretext of giving him freedom and liberating him. In effect, she was entangling him in a web...Never did she anticipate that love would make him break free.

Tanveer looked for love and admiration from different corners all her life. How ironical that the only person who cared for her ever was Aahil. Rehaan, her own blood was nauseated at her ugliness...he wanted to run away from her stench. Aahil, on the other hand, faced the worst ever fate at her hands..that of having been bitten deep , back stabbed at...and having to survive the biggest deception of all.

The trust was shaken, the illusion shattered. Yet he couldn't bear to see her die. The idol he had worshipped over years..the devotion that had piled up...He still couldn't hate her because of what she had meant to him once.

She had been selfish...conniving...evil...but she couldn't taint the image of motherhood even as she vowed to mutilate it and bury it. A strange tribute to motherhood, indeed...the one Aahil wanted to preserve, perhaps because she had built up on the foundations of his feelings for his birth mother. And so,we have Tanveer ranting madly, asking him to get lost...and the child she cast out holds on to her in her death...even as she spits at him. How small is Tanveer in front of that boy who cannot hold a grudge against her, even in the depths of sadness and dejection.

Did Aahil hold Tanveer above everything else? No.

He was devastated...resigned to his fate...the will to fight having gone at the sudden exposure...but concern for Sanam woke him up. He laid aside his pain and disappointments and ran to her rescue...and went on to prove that love could keep him going even when he was at his lowest... It was love triumphing over evil.

'Maa kabhi galat nahi ho sakti hai na?'...an innocent question another hero of Gul's asked when the woman he looked up to as his mother betrayed him. He did not retaliate...he was ever willing to forgive all her trespasses...only after he made sure he stayed out of her sight...the trust was not broken..it was just moving away to give space, so there'd be no further betrayals...with all respect.

Aahil went one step further. His trust was broken beyond repair...He knew he had lost a mother. Yet he forgave, and gave back...Goodness in return for the evil...THE BATTLE THAT TANVEER LOST!👏

Both these heroes- the other one being Sahir from Humsfaras and this particular dialogue being one of my favourite from the show- remind me of shades of Ram who left Ayodhya for his step mother...He loved her and respected her enough to move out of her son's way as soon as he realised he was the bone of contention. I actually liked Tanveer's end. I used to think Sanam 2'd bring about her end, but I feel it is good that she died in Aahil's arms. His forgiveness is a gift she does not deserve and can never pay back.👏

thanks Soup for making this post for me.👏❤️I was so disturbed all these days right from the time of Rehan's death and i ranted.After reading your post i feel good.you always put things in the correct perspective and i get my answers.
Yes Tanveer wanted respectability.Once in SM somebody asked about Tanveer (played by nisha nagpal)and Razia said that girls like her do not become any family's bahu since they are public property or words to that effect.that stung Tanveer and she vowed to get married to Asad to get money and respectability.Tanveer's victims were always rich.
Imran escaped because of Asad who did'nt succumb to tanu's blackmailing and instead convinced imran to accept the truth.
Asad paid with his life cause he told Tanveer on her face that he hated her.
Tanveer married gaffur so she could remain close to Asad and carry out her plans.she never forgot Razia's insults and wanted to get even with her.
One thing i did'nt understand.in Ahil's fb's when the nawab was flogging him Tanveer came and saved him.Why did the Nawab listen to Tanveer and beat his own son/?was he powerless infront of a blind woman?I did'nt Tanveer did'nt kill him because of the will.the will also changed so many times it said that Sanam should;nt be harmed for an year.and Tanveer tied her in the warehouse.
Ahil remained indebted to his ammi till the end.Now he does'nt want to see Sanam 2 bcoz he reminds him of ammi.
Tanveer manipulated everyone including Rehan till she told him she was his mom and she was tired of playacting the good mother with Ahil.Rehan was shocked and he hated her.She could'nt manipulate him.she tried to many times but he was steadfast in his devotion towrds Ahil and Sanam.He tried to make Tanveer see reason but did'nt succeed.Tanveer wanted that Rehan should enjoy the riches but he died and she could never see her daughter.
Who is the father of the daughter?Nawab or somebody else?the Nawab was kept captive by Tanveer in gudia factory.how did he go to jameela to get hold of the daughter?he could have escaped then.because the daughter was born in jail.
The bhopal police never asks to see the dead bodies.Tanveer had shot the Nawab and badi begum was in the house.what about the last rites for the nawab.tanveer must have got a lookalike body😉.So many loopholes.Ahil's after growing cried in his dreams.because of the way nawaba bused him.Nawab could have acted,after all Tanveer could'nt see.😊
Tanvver had immense physical and mental strength.that's why she coul tie up Sanam.Seher,And Ahil who are younger and stronger than her
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: vm17

thanks Soup for making this post for me.👏❤️I was so disturbed all these days right from the time of Rehan's death and i ranted.After reading your post i feel good.you always put things in the correct perspective and i get my answers.

Yes Tanveer wanted respectability.Once in SM somebody asked about Tanveer (played by nisha nagpal)and Razia said that girls like her do not become any family's bahu since they are public property or words to that effect.that stung Tanveer and she vowed to get married to Asad to get money and respectability.Tanveer's victims were always rich.
Imran escaped because of Asad who did'nt succumb to tanu's blackmailing and instead convinced imran to accept the truth.
Asad paid with his life cause he told Tanveer on her face that he hated her.
Tanveer married gaffur so she could remain close to Asad and carry out her plans.she never forgot Razia's insults and wanted to get even with her.
One thing i did'nt understand.in Ahil's fb's when the nawab was flogging him Tanveer came and saved him.Why did the Nawab listen to Tanveer and beat his own son/?was he powerless infront of a blind woman?I did'nt Tanveer did'nt kill him because of the will.the will also changed so many times it said that Sanam should;nt be harmed for an year.and Tanveer tied her in the warehouse.
Ahil remained indebted to his ammi till the end.Now he does'nt want to see Sanam 2 bcoz he reminds him of ammi.
Tanveer manipulated everyone including Rehan till she told him she was his mom and she was tired of playacting the good mother with Ahil.Rehan was shocked and he hated her.She could'nt manipulate him.she tried to many times but he was steadfast in his devotion towrds Ahil and Sanam.He tried to make Tanveer see reason but did'nt succeed.Tanveer wanted that Rehan should enjoy the riches but he died and she could never see her daughter.
Who is the father of the daughter?Nawab or somebody else?the Nawab was kept captive by Tanveer in gudia factory.how did he go to jameela to get hold of the daughter?he could have escaped then.because the daughter was born in jail.
The bhopal police never asks to see the dead bodies.Tanveer had shot the Nawab and badi begum was in the house.what about the last rites for the nawab.tanveer must have got a lookalike body😉.So many loopholes.Ahil's after growing cried in his dreams.because of the way nawaba bused him.Nawab could have acted,after all Tanveer could'nt see.😊
Tanvver had immense physical and mental strength.that's why she coul tie up Sanam.Seher,And Ahil who are younger and stronger than her


🤗 Thanx, V. Always a pleasure to discuss with U.

Indeed, Tanveer always wanted that respectability...wanted to be more than a bazaaron ki Zeenat- Riches , she could have got easily...I don't think she would have ever acknowledged Rehaan publicly..Would have paraded him as the adopted child she bestowed all her riches on...She couldn't sacrifice her position in society for anything...

I don't think Tanver told the Nawab to beat up Aahil. She just instigated him in a mild manner and played the godmother, fooling both son and father. The fact that she supported the son whenever the father went into an alcoholic bout must have raised their opinion of her. She just played them well.

Aahil cannot see Sanam 2 because she reminds him of his follies. He will not hate Tanveer...because she was a good mother even if it was all an act..made him feel belonged..but Sanam 2 reminds him of the crime he did to Sanam when he blindly obeyed his Ammi..He will not tolerate that. He had vowed to right every wrong he had done to Sanam...as he explained to his father at the breakfast table.

After Rehaan died, Tanveer was consumed by a madness..hunger for revenge..it mattered not who lived or died...money was of no use to her now. She had lost the purpose in her life...Rather her only purpose was revenge now.

Nawab and the daughter...It is a mystery...will remain so, I guess... But the fact is..Tanveer in that jail scene looked helpless...as if the Nawab picked her up from there in the first place...meaning..he fell in love with her looks...allowed the child to be born...told her a lie and married her not knowing about Rehaan...Explains why he has no feelings for Misbah..It is not his daughter.

Tanveer's strength...😆. Did she have Sanam 2 helping her with Sanam and Seher? Aahilll😆...No, she had struck him down unconscious and then tied him up...I guess...She did strike him down actually.

Nawab nightmares...Tanveer basically brought out the devil in the Nawab...he was an alcoholic too...Explains why Aahil shuddered at the guy whipping himself in the first few epis...The Nawab had been very unkind...and the blame is not entirely on Tanveer even if he says she manipulated him.

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