Faiz, Haya and the sorry state of affairs.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#11

Originally posted by: udenigamage
Nice post. I was also wondering what happened in a short period. If CV decided bring RaHa together at the end they may have shown Faiz love interest towards Haya then MU between brothers and at the end RaHa will be together and Faiz step out without a marriage.
How come a marriage be broken in such a easy and hectic way.Marriage has its own rules and respect in every culture. I never liked shows took marriage as a joke or use as a formula to increase TRP.Here FaHa marriage was a unnecessary thing. They still can show brothers clash without marriage also.

Same here. Utterly distasteful business all this was.

Why build up Faiz to a pedestal only to turn him into a third rate jerk ...

And why get them MARRIED in the first place if Rahat was the end game. Love triangle kisi aur tareekay se bhi toh dikhaya jaa sakta tha ! 😡😡

Originally posted by: ShyeraStratus
I was a RaHa fan but I was willing to give Faiz a chance but I just hated all his dialogues in the mahaepi... they were really hurtful. I sympathise with Haya completely. While Faiz understands Haya's sign language... he doesn't understand her heart like Rahat does. When his guests were being totally insensitive to Haya, I though he was feeling angry but now I realise he was feeling embarrassed. I mean I know that he is angry but he didn't hear one word from Haya and decided divorce was the answer? Only yesterday he was telling Phoopi that Haya is good and now he went straight to divorce and even signed the papers without looking at Haya. I am so disappointed. Complete character butchering this was... CVs got too impatient and ruined it. I don't think Haya should be with Faiz now... since his character is shown to be childish.. thats what the CVs want I think. For us to root for Rahat again.

While I don't support Faiz OR Haya 100% ... they both have their shortcomings, I used to like Faiz a little more than Haya. To me Haya was kinda mentally cheating on her husband ... so that didn't sit too well with me ... but after the maha epi ..I too am REALLY disappointed in Faiz. Anger is one thing ... but dissoving your marriage cuz u had to spend a few minutes more in the sauna ?! ARE YOU SERIOUS ?! -_-

Originally posted by: harshana1
I like rahat and Hayaa but I was willing to see how faiz and Hayaa would play out. I don't understand why faiz didn't suspect his poophi lying. Like who just has divorce papers made that morning when she was the one who convinced him to go in there in the first place. Like couldn't he put two and two together. I mean Hayaa is at fault to idk why she was begging so hard when she was not giving faiz a chance anyway. I'm happy it's over though rahat is willing to go against family when they are wrong.

I haven't watched the Rahat bits ... so no clue ... but I was really waiting to see how Haya and Faiz would go ... and this ... what happened today ... I mean to bring back Rahat is one thing but to character asassinate Faiz to facilitate Rahat's return is entirely another. SO dissapointed -_-

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Posted: 11 years ago

#12

RaHa love was showed first then FaHa marriage happened because Gul wanted to show the Halala marriage track. Which she wanted to show in QH1 but did not get to show then so is fulfilling it now with side characters.

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346815

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Posted: 11 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: zam123
RaHa love was showed first then FaHa marriage happened because Gul wanted to show the Halala marriage track. Which she wanted to show in QH1 but did not get to show then so is fulfilling it now with side characters.

You mean like Haya will have to marry someone else to get back with Faiz ?

UGH .

I am Muslim too , but that's one of the worst aspects of a Muslim re-marriage. Almost as if God's punishing you for being so hasty about your divorce (which would serve Faiz right ) .

So WHY on earth would Gul even WANT to show something like that. UGH.

But then again ... that's typical TRP generating masala ... wouldn't put it past the makers 🤬

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Posted: 11 years ago

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To be honest, I find the Haya and Faiz story a lot more interesting than the Haya and Rahat story. I blame Rahat for this mess, coz if he had been upfront with his brother and told him he had feelings for Haya, I am sure Faiz would have backed off! But NO! He had to "sacrifice" for his brother. He didnt even bother to ask Haya if SHE felt the same way about him, when it was clear she had a partiality towards him!

Now he is coming back, and I hope he reunites Haya and Faiz. Because despite how the marriage started, I think there is something there, that can actually work. Faiz really did have strong feelings for her. But in the wake of her continued rejection of him, without seemingly any real explanation, plus all the drama created by Phoophi and the misunderstandings, have pushed him over the edge! I am not defending him. But that is I think the fact!

As for Haya.. Yes she needs to decide what she wants! She was struggling to accept this marriage and was still crying over Rahat. She even called him the other day. Now Faiz wants to divorce her, and she dosent want that? I undertsand that divorce is not a joke, but if this marriage is not what she wants and she and Rahat love each other, then why not divorce Faiz and go to Rahat? I am sure he will accept her? After all, HIS brother divorced her?? I dont know. She needs to decide what she wants, coz until she does, she cant have a relationship with either of the brothers that will go far!

Edited by MrDarcyfan - 11 years ago

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Fatima

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Posted: 11 years ago

#15

Excellent post.

I too was one of the viewers who started watching QH2 more for Haya and Rahat. There was a subtle undeniable charm to them. And after Rahat left...Haya and Faiz. Actually I just liked Haya's character so I don't really care who was attached to her. 😆

I was really upset when Rahat left her after her nikkah, that too in a bad predicament. She was unwilling to accept the marriage but he just abandoned her for the sake of his brother's happiness. 😡 That was a minus 1 for Rahat from me.

Then we had Faiz...who seemed immature at first...and I was like...how did he fall in love with Haya so soon. I mean she is handicapped and no matter how beautiful a girl may be a guy would think twice. At first I thought maybe he's in with Munisa and wanting to do some harm to Haya...but no it turned out he was genuinely in love with the girl! 😲

I actually began to appreciate that he defended her, gave her space...plenty of it...and like you said...not every guy does that. And he even repeatedly asked her to tell him what the problem so that he could make it right.

I'm sure if Haya had told him about the misunderstanding that led to their marriage, he would have been hurt but taken steps to remedy the situation. After all he loves Haya...and he loves his brother too.

But she never gave him this option. This is her fault. You can't not tell him what's wrong and then not expect him to expect you to behave like a wife to him. Like you said...she should have made a decision as to what she wanted rather than to keep Faiz in limbo.

Now if he declares a divorce...pent up frustration...bad judgement...haste makes waste...whatever you want to call it...I didn't want this to happen. I was hoping Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam type thing would happen here too...but I guess Rahat return's means Haya will be tossed around between 2 brothers like a tennis ball.

I really hate that. She should dump them both, remind Sanam that she needs to get her operation done to get her handicap repaired and then go find herself a guy who won't abandon her, nor jump to rash conclusions.

Edited by ummesulaiman - 11 years ago

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Fatima

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Posted: 11 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: zam123
RaHa love was showed first then FaHa marriage happened because Gul wanted to show the Halala marriage track. Which she wanted to show in QH1 but did not get to show then so is fulfilling it now with side characters.

You know this whole Halala matter is a very tricky and complicated issue...and it's not something that is so easy for everyone to understand. I don't know why Gul always wants to show it. 🤢

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ARWA

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Posted: 11 years ago

#17

Agree with you 👏

Edited by jojo1986 - 11 years ago

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346815

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Posted: 11 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan
To be honest, I find the Haya and Faiz story a lot more interesting than the Haya and Rahat story. I blame Rahat for this mess, coz if he had been upfront with his brother and told him he had feelings for Haya, I am sure Faiz would have backed off! But NO! He had to "sacrifice" for his brother. He didnt even bother to ask Haya if SHE felt the same way about him, when it was clear she had a partiality towards him!

Now he is coming back, and I hope he reunites Haya and Faiz. Because despite how the marriage started, I think there is something there, that can actually work. Faiz really did have strong feelings for her. But in the wake of her continued rejection of him, without seemingly any real explanation, plus all the drama created by Phoophi and the misunderstandings, have pushed him over the edge! I am not defending him. But that is I think the fact!

As for Haya.. Yes she needs to decide what she wants! She was struggling to accept this marriage and was still crying over Rahat. She even called him the other day. Now Faiz wants to divorce her, and she dosent want that? I undertsand that divorce is not a joke, but if this marriage is not what she wants and she and Rahat love each other, then why not divorce Faiz and go to Rahat? I am sure he will accept her? After all, HIS brother divorced her?? I dont know. She needs to decide what she wants, cox until she does, she cant have a relationship with either of the brothers that will go far!

There. You said it.

I too like the Faiz - Haya pairing more because it seems more realistic to me. At least the tone of the post marriage track (minus the all-too-soon divorce) does. Faiz reacts like any normal guy would. His wanting to consummate the marriage has been criticized in many a posts on the forum, but I think its what gives a realistic touch to the story. Guys are generally impatient when it comes to taking the relationship to the next (physical) level and all the more so when they are married and have a "licence", so to speak. The gentlemanly grace period that ppl here were expecting for him to give her ... aisa real life mein nahin hota. And the whole apna pyaar kisi aur ke liye sacrifice .. aisa KAUN karta hai !?

I am hating the fact that they had to get divorced so abruptly ... but maybe it'll give Haya the much needed push to sort things out on her own. Will she pine after the man to gave her away to another without even asking for her opinion , like she's some piece of furniture he owned , or will she finally see the good sense in valuing the man who respected and gave her space so she could take it upon herself to accept him wholeheartedly as her husband. Unlike the TV-romantics, there's no credit in "sacrificing" your love. If you truly love someone, then you hold on to them selfishly like your life depend on it. Like Faiz tried to. He probably didn't have the maturity to see it through, but that's what he'd set out to do when he'd knowingly married a deaf and mute girl.

Originally posted by: ummesulaiman

I actually began to appreciate that he defended her, gave her space...plenty of it...and like you said...not every guy does that. And he even repeatedly asked her to tell him what the problem so that he could make it right.

I'm sure if Haya had told him about the misunderstanding that led to their marriage, he would have been hurt but taken steps to remedy the situation. After all he loves Haya...and he loves his brother too.

But she never gave him this option. This is her fault. You can't not tell him what's wrong and then not expect him to expect you to behave like a wife to him. Like you said...she should have made a decision as to what she wanted rather than to keep Faiz in limbo.

Now if he declares a divorce...pent up frustration...bad judgement...haste makes waste...whatever you want to call it...I didn't want this to happen. I was hoping Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam type thing would happen here too...but I guess Rahat return's means Haya will be tossed around between 2 brothers like a tennis ball.

Haya was so blinded by her ishq sufiyana that she couldn't see how cruel it was all to Faiz.

He'd done nothing but try and make the marriage work. He definitely had the right to know ... and when he was made to suffer withoout been given any explanations, he burst out.

Lack of communication, lack of patience ... nothing destroys a marriage faster.

I just wish somehow Faiz and Haya get a second shot at their relationship ... and this time around with HAYA being more invested. Faiz's loves her, that we have seen, but about time she earned it.

And if the track is going the love-triangle way .. with Rahat as the endgame ... then I am clocking out faster than Alice did outta Wonderland. Yessir !

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amare_ashy

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Posted: 11 years ago

#19

Res! I'm rushing out and I saw your post and had to comment!

There were times I felt for Faiz because he actually thought Haya fully agreed to the marriage before he went ahead with it. And now, he doesn't understand why she's behaving this way because Haya hadn't uttered a word that he wasn't the one she intended to marry. So, he's actually kept in the dark abt all this.

While watching the scene in ME, a part of me felt he was willingly letting Haya go because he's seen her being upset in the marriage... I dont think it's the Pulphi factor but probably it's only a minimal effect the Pulphi has on this whole thing. The fact that he's hurt and he probably think he would not be the best for her..

And I didn't understand Haya's reaction.. probably it's the initial shock that he divorced her per say. But just the day before, she was calling Rahat too.. So, she should be happy that she's finally free from this marriage and is going to go back to Rahat. I don't think she wanted to work on this marriage. Faiz did give her a whole lot of space in the marriage...

Their whole story is a pity and I hope nothing like that ever happens to anybody.. Yes! An absolute sorry state of affairs..

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KhatamKahani

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Posted: 11 years ago

#20

Marriage isn't a joke, yes.

But marriage wasn't just treated as a joke in a sudden divorce--the marriage was treated as a joke from before the marriage itself. The whole matter is treated as joke from the start and so I don't really care. I just want Haya to be happy however it is.

Just...it goes both ways. Shows shouldn't treat it so lightly, yes. But her Nikkah too was a joke and ridiculous. And she was put in a position where she seemed to have no one to turn to. If she were shown as someone who was capable of taking care of herself and she wasn't in a situation where she seemed alone--and we see decide to give the marriage a chance, maybe I would be more open. But Rahat left her and she doesn't want to impose on Sanam.

And just like she had little say over her marriage, now she has little say over her divorce. It's sad really.

And if they screwed Faiz (though he was immature in wanting a Nikkah just like that) for Rahat-Haya, they screwed Rahat too, to make Faiz-Haya viable. But I don't really think Faiz came off looking so bad...He just kind of had it. His only mistake is letting phoophie get to him. Even then, he didn't believe phoophie that Haya deliberately was trying to kill him or anything.

I would have had no issues with Faiz-Haya if they gave Haya some agency over the matter. But they never did, even now with the divorce, she has little agency. (And here, Haya should've been somewhat relieved. But then again, she feels like she was stuck with this marriage and now it's come to divorce, rather than invalidating it from the start. But the real reason Haya protesting the divorce is because of the writers' need to have her as the victim--once away taking away her agency. God Forbid she actually be relieved and glad...that would be 'unbecoming' to show of her.)

Oh, and if Rahat marries her because Faiz wants to re-marry her, then there too Haya doesn't have agency. And Rahat would be a grade A ass, as would Faiz, but Rahat even more so because he loves her and he knows Haya loves him, and he is the reason for the ridiculous the invalid Nikkah in the first place. Haya should get far away from both of them in that case.

Edited by KhatamKahani - 11 years ago

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