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RAJ

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Posted: 11 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: osiristhoth

What is "wrong" about wanting/having sex with women who agree to it? Forcing and intimidating anyone is wrong as it's a violation of free consent.

hey buddy just read the cmnt properly. Me and uma di r discussing that a girl will never fall for a guy who openly doing sex with other women and by witnessing herself. So read it properly. We dont say that sex of ahil or whatever girl is wrong. Do u fall for a guy if u c that he doing openly sex with random womens?

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RAJ

@RAJLUVRIYA

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Posted: 11 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: Az07

Just read the post properly dear
I mentioned about the way aahil throwers away food. It's a family show & they shouldn't promote this things. I mean food is so precious & its considered as god, if he didn't like that he could have kept it aside or pushed it away the way he throwred that poori was so wrong
No one said about him & simran having sex is wrong
Me & raj just discussed that in reality no girl will fall for a man like ahil after seeing him with another girl that too in a public place
First read the post correctly

well said di

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osiristhoth

@osiristhoth

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Posted: 11 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: RAJLUVASYA

well said di

I have read the post correctly and I highlighted the parts where you have mentioned Ahil is "wrong".

Bold Part 1: Sanam is traditional and moral as opposed to Aahil not being moral as per your standards?

Part 2: What is wrong with consensual sex?

Part 3: 'that too' implies the sex was bad enough and over and above it it was done in public

Perhaps your grasp over language is lacking?

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Az07

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Posted: 11 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: osiristhoth

I have read the post correctly and I highlighted the parts where you have mentioned Ahil is "wrong".
Bold Part 1: Sanam is traditional and moral as opposed to Aahil not being moral as per your standards?
Part 2: What is wrong with consensual sex?
Part 3: 'that too' implies the sex was bad enough and over and above it it was done in public
Perhaps your grasp over language is lacking?

So let me ask you will you marry a man like ahil who is a play boy? In reality no girl prefers a man like that. And one more thing are you trying to say that we are illiterates? We don't know to use language?

I am extremely sorry we are not that open minded like you to fall for a man like ahil who is a play boy.

So you agree that a man having sex in a public place is right? You encourage that amoung your surroundings?

No one said consensual sex is wrong but definetly not in a public place. If you know it's against law in India. Truth is that if I see a man making out with another women & he changing girls daily, I won't agree to marry him even if he is the last man on the earth. What we tried to say is that only in shows these happens & in reality it's not like that

Edited by Az07 - 11 years ago

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Az07

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Posted: 11 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: osiristhoth

I have read the post correctly and I highlighted the parts where you have mentioned Ahil is "wrong".
Bold Part 1: Sanam is traditional and moral as opposed to Aahil not being moral as per your standards?
Part 2: What is wrong with consensual sex?
Part 3: 'that too' implies the sex was bad enough and over and above it it was done in public
Perhaps your grasp over language is lacking?

Let me ask you will you marry a man like ahil? Who is a play boy & changes girls like cloths?

I am so sorry we are not broad minded like you.

If you don't know let me tell you having sex in a public place is against law in India. Also in India sex is allowed only between a married couple. If it's not then it's called immoral trafficking.

Are you trying to say that we are illiterates & we don't know to use language?

So you are saying ahil has morals? Did you see the way he tried to kiss sanam forcefully? If it was you in that condition what you will do? You will kiss that man back? No right.

So if a man forces to kiss a women has morals according to you?

My post is only about the way he throwed the food & his dominance being a man to kiss sanam.

Me & raj just discussed that only in show these kind of love story happens in reality it's not like that.

So you encourage consensual sex & sex in public place in your family & surroundings?

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osiristhoth

@osiristhoth

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Posted: 11 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: Az07

So let me ask you will you marry a man like ahil who is a play boy? In reality no girl prefers a man like that. And one more thing are you trying to say that we are illiterates? We don't know to use language?
I am extremely sorry we are not that open minded like you to fall for a man like ahil who is a play boy.
So you agree that a man having sex in a public place is right? You encourage that amoung your surroundings?

No one said consensual sex is wrong but definetly not in a public place. If you know it's against law in India. Truth is that if I see a man making out with another women & he changing girls daily, I won't agree to marry him even if he is the last man on the earth. What we tried to say is that only in shows these happens & in reality it's not like that

You started it first by saying I did not read your comment. You doubted my ability to comprehend. I replied accordingly.

I know PDA is illegal in India. But what you consider PDA might not be a universal concept, degrees differ. But it does make the public uncomfortable. Also not all illegal things are wrong: S.377 of IPC dealing w/ homosexuality.

It is YOUR decision not to marry a guy who does not have sexual history. But do not judge those who do not consider it a relationship-breaker or want to have casual sex. Which you did by writing "that also" "character is wrong, who just wants sex with women and then change them" The girls know he wants sex and know they won't last long. They have the capacity to make a decision and act. It is their free will.

There are many people who have open/casual relationships. Just because you and I do not subscribe to it does not mean they are wrong and immoral. Both are fluid concept.

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Az07

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Posted: 11 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: osiristhoth

You started it first by saying I did not read your comment. You doubted my ability to comprehend. I replied accordingly.
I know PDA is illegal in India. But what you consider PDA might not be a universal concept, degrees differ. But it does make the public uncomfortable. Also not all illegal things are wrong: S.377 of IPC dealing w/ homosexuality.
It is YOUR decision not to marry a guy who does not have sexual history. But do not judge those who do not consider it a relationship-breaker or want to have casual sex. Which you did by writing "that also" "character is wrong, who just wants sex with women and then change them" The girls know he wants sex and know they won't last long. They have the capacity to make a decision and act. It is their free will.
There are many people who have open/casual relationships. Just because you and I do not subscribe to it does not mean they are wrong and immoral. Both are fluid concept.

If you see like that there were many posts before in season 1 were people bashed zoya when she wore a mini skirt. People judged her & bashed her as wrong.

It's there freedom to express it. So me & raj also did the same in between the chats. Let me make it clear to you that my post is about the way ahil throwed food & he man handled sanam.

It's you who poked your nose in between my chats with raj.

Obviously you have the freedom to express what you feel so do us. For you ahil may a good guy with morals but we didn't find him like that that v shared in between our chats not in the post.

You should have clearly mentioned in your first comment that it's not about the post but it's in between the chatting you are mentioning. So you started it. Not me.

And one more thing if illegal things are not wrong then why it's calked illegal. It's only because it's considered as wrong. So you think a guy or a girl who have casual sex are right?

I agree it's there wish & freedom but that doesn't makes that they are doing right.

Edited by Az07 - 11 years ago

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osiristhoth

@osiristhoth

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Posted: 11 years ago

#28

I am going to stop quoting, it is getting too long.

I asked what's wrong w/ Aahil's action. You said read correctly. I said you have lang gap. You said i called you illiterate. I said I retaliated. So I still maintain you started it by mocking me instead of replying to me.

I didn't watch Season 1 of QH. Nor I am intending too. But if Zoya wore mini-skirt, I would be "big deal, so what" type and I would have replied to anyone who bashed over her dressing style!

In medieval Europe, it was scandalous for ankles to be seen. Now do we think the same?

Indian Penal Code was made in 1860. Law gets modifies, repealed and inserted. Like euthanasia, earlier courts were against it, then they have allowed passive euthanasia.

In many countries it was illegal for homosexuals to marry, but now courts are de-criminalizing it, because it was an unjust law. Laws are made by man and man has to change them to suit the society. There was a time where widows were not allowed to marry. Do you thinks widow's remarrying should be illegal now? We had Sati system, do you consider it wrong that it was abolished? Divorce was not allowed, and women were not given maintenance if divorced. Should it be bought back?

Why do you consider casual sex to be wrong? Is it because it is immoral? But who decided what is moral and what is immoral? Should not drinking, smoking be included too? Why is that not illegal? Like I said morality is a fluid concept. You might say it is wrong now but after 100 yrs your opinion will change