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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

thanks for replaying di. Zoya's two dialogue realy scared me
1) main apni nikha taumar nibhayungi
2) mujhe itna v dur na bhejiye ki wapas na aa saku
any symbolism of these dialouge please if porsible explain di. I mean what u think
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Posted: 11 years ago
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BINGO! 👏

Sangeeta, I was pleasantly surprised to read your analysis today. I do appreciate your general positivity but am also glad that we are on the same page. This is how I felt on Friday but you have put it out much more eloquently!

I still find the twist illogical and trying hard to get over it. To me Asad's behavior is out of character, so I just can't get angry with him. The CVs are to blame!! 😆 Yes, he loves his siblings. But right from the start, that love was more partial to Ayaan and not the half sisters. There was hardly any interaction there. Let's keep that aside as my selfish perception. The problem I have is:
  • He is agreeing to blackmail. The same person who recently told HB that he will not be blackmailed. The same person who did not listen even to his mother when he filed a lawsuit against RAK.
  • Based on the repeated reminder of his love and "aapko mujpe bharosa...", it appears to me that he was planning a charade and not planning on permanently sacrificing his love. What happened to the principled man who hates lies?
  • Why oh why doesn't anyone realize that if Nikhat is so fragile and broken, then marrying her off to HB's son is asking for disaster. She needs reassurance, love and support from her family. I want to see her move to KV for a few days!!
  • I really cannot see him sacrificing his life to support an incorrect cause. Razia was right! Nikhat does NOT love Farhan. To save one life, 4 (and their loved ones) are being sacrificed. Yeh kaahaan ka insaaf hain?! 😒 What is the guarantee that she will be happy?
  • He didn't deem it necessary to even discuss it with Dilshad, the mother he loves a lot? Who incidentally was appointed as Zoya's guardian (in India) as per Zeenat. Sorry, baat hazam nahi hui!
  • He is forcing Zoya to accept this for Nikhat's sake. Huh?! No pleading, no requesting, just ordering? Still no open communication?
The only silver lining was his reassurance yet again today. So what exactly is he planning to do? Or leave it to Muqadar?! Just like Zoya did after Ajmer/pregnancy track. Argh! 😡Communication, communication , communication! Can someone please drill that in BOTH Zoya and Asad's heads!!

Zoya pleaded and begged today. Yes, she was the bechaari. Nope, she did not deserve this Neanderthal treatment at the hands of the man she loves the most. Does he drag her in tomorrow? Or does she walk in on her own after listening to his "bharosa" spiel?! Either way, she was the sacrificial lamb. This reminded me of the story Dilshad told Zoya and Najma about the prophet sacrificing his son but Allah gave him back. (I am non-Muslim, so apologies if I'm misstating). With Eid approaching, is that the message that the CVs want to get through?

One incorrect message that is definitely coming across is that women are weak and attempting suicide is fine and gets you what you want. They have shown Humeira (wrist slashing, medicine skipping, Chilli eating), Shireen (can't even remember what she tried to do), Tanveer and her fake assault ministrations! And now Nikhat! You say keep the knife away. I say send all these women into an asylum! A bit too much?? 😆 Seriously, it's ridiculous. Almost every woman in that house is either suicidal or murderous! Instead of the Zingo Hotties, they need to open a Zombie Bloodies group!

I ask (the writers) again: if this is a temporary marriage to be dissolved in 2 to 3 weeks, then what happens to Nikhat then? No badnami? What if Farhan gives talak to Nikhat? What is worse? Be unmarried or be a divorcee?

Ghafoor: I still have some hopes. He definitely loves his prestige, hence had given up on Zainab and Zoya. However, he does love Humeira. Razia has put the talaknama idea in his head. He will implement it!

Shireen: yes, very selfish and dumb woman. I liked her pleading to Asad as it shows she is human and is a Mom begging for her daughter's life. Now, important point to note is that no one at SM except now Razia, know about Ayaan and Humeira's patch up. Would Shireen have reacted differently if she knew that her own son was also sacrificing his love? Maybe not. Parents always are partial to the less fortunate child. (Didn't you explain a medical theory when explaining Humeira's condition?) Misguided? Absolutely but plausible unlike the self-sacrificing brothers. Having said that, I blame her the most for Nikhat's predicament! As a mother she failed when she instilled such low worth in her child. 😭

Badi Bi: Now shouldn't this woman know the Islam marriage laws?! Why was she conveniently quiet?

Rashid: as usual unable to speak up for any of his children.😭

Ayaan: bechaara but willing to sacrifice for his depressed sister.

Humeira: the most unfortunate one. Why is she happy in the promo? This is bothering me still! Is she going to lala land soon?

Tanveer: where is Ms. Muqadar now? Is she going to blackmail AAK? I can see him succumbing to save tamatar's Nikaah?

Agreed, the star of the day, to the sound of drumroll: Razia! That will be the day, when the villain is the star! I need to see her in action soon!

Will Dilshad be the star tomorrow? Or will Asad not let her go to the SM? If she does decide to go, a residual question from Ranveer days, who will drive her?! It's night and the Khans don't seem to have a driver! Will AAK take her??!! Yeah, and pigs will fly!! 😆

Until tomorrow, adios my friend. Hang in there, a smart, positive woman told me: it will get better! Aisi Badi Badi serial mein, aisi choti choti baatein hoti hain!! 😉

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AAK0007


thanks for replaying di. Zoya's two dialogue realy scared me
1) main apni nikha taumar nibhayungi
2) mujhe itna v dur na bhejiye ki wapas na aa saku
any symbolism of these dialouge please if porsible explain di. I mean what u think


I feel the symbolisms point to her taking this nikaah as the real deal till Ayaan annuls it one fine day. Ayaan is so impulsive that he can do anything...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: bheegi


I think Dilshaad will try to get Zoya back but it might be too late...as the SM people would say she is our bahu. I hope zoya will a piece of her mind to everyone in SM...just hope her spirit is not crushed after this esp around people like Ghafoor. Good to see you back. And yes, KSG does a great job in the emotional scenes...

😆 Thanks...only for awhile because the story isn't really great. Just that this twist is so wrong on so many levels, I mean as a drama series...it's so 😕 accidental nikah, talaq, stupid...but since that has passed and if we overlook it...It's not time for giving people any sermons or a piece of mind...I think they have so much to pay for is only when they pay for their actions (I mean this in a good way...because kerne ko to Asad ne bhi bahot kuch kaha...but karne ki baaree aayee to nibhaa na sakaa, whatever the reason may be..however big; people have to experience it is when they understand, so no amount of Zoya asking them questions or presenting the world outside the frog well will help). If I were the writer I'd definitely show her as a feisty, spirited gal who will make her way. But she's already lost her innocence...sadly life can do that to you.



Edited by qhid - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65
After zoyan if they introduce janu i m not wonder if they force to shut down the show.
One question is badi bi realy take zoya in ayan's room?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66
Agree but bheegs
Asad probably wouldn't have fallen for shireens bs if he hadn't seen it for himself.

Ghafoor is a man of principle first so I didn't se anything incorrect

Shireens is desperate to seek help from dilshaads kid at is point she's a mother first so expected it.

Btw why does asad keep saying trust me? And maulvi came before raazia got a chance to switch papers. Or add talaknama so who did?


I'm guessing asad unless somehow raazia gets it done.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Excellent post Sangeeta and very much to the point . You said it all and everything is correct.
Honestly among all these morons and cowards I was disgusted over Asad the most. Even if he loves his half sister very much he had no right to put Zoya in such a situation where she has to live with another man as her wife ( pretense or not) . I felt Zoya was traded today and no matter how annoying she gets at times she didn't deserve this. She was first coerced, then manipulated and finally emotionally blackmailed by the very person who can give her life for to the extent.
I am disgusted with Asad today. I think he committed a sin today by leaving his love vulnerable and broken for his half sisters well bring and that's disturbing.
This is unbearable and except for Razia in the episode and Dilshad in the precap everything and everyone was ridiculous and disgusting in the show.

Yeah on top of that I feel Billi Asad Drama with Imrans illegitimate kid us upcoming very soon.
Overall this track killed by buzz for QH completely. I was ok with. Zoyaan if shown logically but QH promotes too much negetivity and disgrace women too much and I am unable to take any more.
Edited by trina2010 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: webuser7

BINGO! 👏

Sangeeta, I was pleasantly surprised to read your analysis today. I do appreciate your general positivity but am also glad that we are on the same page. This is how I felt on Friday but you have put it out much more eloquently!

As I told Anushree today, I have my thinking cap back on again😆 The Friday epi made me very emotional esp the hand holding significance...it was more the brilliance of that scene and acting that got me rather than the plot😆. Waise, I am still positive about the future story line of this show as it has a lot of potential. This is just today's epi analysis

I still find the twist illogical and trying hard to get over it. To me Asad's behavior is out of character, so I just can't get angry with him. The CVs are to blame!! 😆 Yes, he loves his siblings. But right from the start, that love was more partial to Ayaan and not the half sisters. There was hardly any interaction there. Let's keep that aside as my selfish perception. The problem I have is:

yes, I said that last week too. Asad leaving Zoya at SM in rage because he is angry about the nikaah would be so much in character for him. It seems he is okay with the nikaah deal and not mad at Zoya...he is just being an emotional fool right now.
  • He is agreeing to blackmail. The same person who recently told HB that he will not be blackmailed. The same person who did not listen even to his mother when he filed a lawsuit against RAK. Exactly! Go talk to Nikhat man. Nikhat respects Asad a lot. Maybe he can instill some sense into her
  • Based on the repeated reminder of his love and "aapko mujpe bharosa...", it appears to me that he was planning a charade and not planning on permanently sacrificing his love. What happened to the principled man who hates lies? Yeah...and he knows zoya's views on nikaah
  • Why oh why doesn't anyone realize that if Nikhat is so fragile and broken, then marrying her off to HB's son is asking for disaster. She needs reassurance, love and support from her family. I want to see her move to KV for a few days!!
  • I really cannot see him sacrificing his life to support an incorrect cause. Razia was right! Nikhat does NOT love Farhan. To save one life, 4 (and their loved ones) are being sacrificed. Yeh kaahaan ka insaaf hain?! 😒 What is the guarantee that she will be happy? exactly! Someone needs to tell Nikhat what's happening behind her back. She will feel so guilty about her suicide attempt and come to senses
  • He didn't deem it necessary to even discuss it with Dilshad, the mother he loves a lot? Who incidentally was appointed as Zoya's guardian (in India) as per Zeenat. Sorry, baat hazam nahi hui! Asad is an emotional fool...
  • He is forcing Zoya to accept this for Nikhat's sake. Huh?! No pleading, no requesting, just ordering? Still no open communication? To me this is out of character. Getting angry at Zoya would have been more in tune with his character
The only silver lining was his reassurance yet again today. So what exactly is he planning to do? Or leave it to Muqadar?! Just like Zoya did after Ajmer/pregnancy track. Argh! 😡Communication, communication , communication! Can someone please drill that in BOTH Zoya and Asad's heads!!

writers don't want them to communicate..poori kahani bigad jaayegi na phir😆

Zoya pleaded and begged today. Yes, she was the bechaari. Nope, she did not deserve this Neanderthal treatment at the hands of the man she loves the most. Does he drag her in tomorrow? Or does she walk in on her own after listening to his "bharosa" spiel?! Either way, she was the sacrificial lamb. This reminded me of the story Dilshad told Zoya and Najma about the prophet sacrificing his son but Allah gave him back. (I am non-Muslim, so apologies if I'm misstating). With Eid approaching, is that the message that the CVs want to get through?

yes, if you read MKI's blog, that's exactly what she has said about the whole Zoyaan track...Gul is actually following that story. Good pick up RK👏

One incorrect message that is definitely coming across is that women are weak and attempting suicide is fine and gets you what you want. They have shown Humeira (wrist slashing, medicine skipping, Chilli eating), Shireen (can't even remember what she tried to do), Tanveer and her fake assault ministrations! And now Nikhat! You say keep the knife away. I say send all these women into an asylum! A bit too much?? 😆 Seriously, it's ridiculous. Almost every woman in that house is either suicidal or murderous! Instead of the Zingo Hotties, they need to open a Zombie Bloodies group! Kahin Zoya ko bhi yeh bimaari na ho jaaye SM main😆😆

I ask (the writers) again: if this is a temporary marriage to be dissolved in 2 to 3 weeks, then what happens to Nikhat then? No badnami? What if Farhan gives talak to Nikhat? What is worse? Be unmarried or be a divorcee? If u read the f32 article, both Qureshi brothers will give their wives a hard time

Ghafoor: I still have some hopes. He definitely loves his prestige, hence had given up on Zainab and Zoya. However, he does love Humeira. Razia has put the talaknama idea in his head. He will implement it!

Shireen: yes, very selfish and dumb woman. I liked her pleading to Asad as it shows she is human and is a Mom begging for her daughter's life. Now, important point to note is that no one at SM except now Razia, know about Ayaan and Humeira's patch up. Would Shireen have reacted differently if she knew that her own son was also sacrificing his love? Maybe not. Parents always are partial to the less fortunate child. (Didn't you explain a medical theory when explaining Humeira's condition?) Misguided? Absolutely but plausible unlike the self-sacrificing brothers. Having said that, I blame her the most for Nikhat's predicament! As a mother she failed when she instilled such low worth in her child. 😭

parents need to make their kids resilient, not weak...that's my mantra in life

Badi Bi: Now shouldn't this woman know the Islam marriage laws?! Why was she conveniently quiet? She lost brain cells in the stroke😆

Rashid: as usual unable to speak up for any of his children.😭

Ayaan: bechaara but willing to sacrifice for his depressed sister.

Humeira: the most unfortunate one. Why is she happy in the promo? This is bothering me still! Is she going to lala land soon? She should become rajni....or does ayaan convince her that this is temporary

Tanveer: where is Ms. Muqadar now? Is she going to blackmail AAK? I can see him succumbing to save tamatar's Nikaah? I have a feeling yes

Agreed, the star of the day, to the sound of drumroll: Razia! That will be the day, when the villain is the star! I need to see her in action soon!

Will Dilshad be the star tomorrow? Or will Asad not let her go to the SM? If she does decide to go, a residual question from Ranveer days, who will drive her?! It's night and the Khans don't seem to have a driver! Will AAK take her??!! Yeah, and pigs will fly!! 😆

yes...good question. What if asad convinces her that Zoya married ayaan and we should not interfere in her life anymore😕 or if dilshaad goes to SM, shireen etc insult her and throw her out

Until tomorrow, adios my friend. Hang in there, a smart, positive woman told me: it will get better! Aisi Badi Badi serial mein, aisi choti choti baatein hoti hain!! 😉

😆....yes, i will keep waiting for that positivity to percolate one day. Thanks RK. Good to see you back...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: qhid

😆 Thanks...only for awhile because the story isn't really great. Just that this twist is so wrong on so many levels, I mean as a drama series...it's so 😕 accidental nikah, talaq, stupid...but since that has passed and if we overlook it...It's not time for giving people any sermons or a piece of mind...I think they have so much to pay for is only when they pay for their actions (I mean this in a good way...because kerne ko to Asad ne bhi bahot kuch kaha...but karne ki baaree aayee to nibhaa na sakaa, whatever the reason may be..however big; people have to experience it is when they understand, so no amount of Zoya asking them questions or presenting the world outside the frog well will help). If I were the writer I'd definitely show her as a feisty, spirited gal who will make her way. But she's already lost her innocence...sadly life can do that to you.




Frankly, there are three tracks that i am looking forward to...will tolerate this Zoyaan track just for these

1. Ghafoor-Zoya

2. Post Zoyaan, an independent Zoya

3. Finally Asya milan after all the tamasha
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AAK0007

After zoyan if they introduce janu i m not wonder if they force to shut down the show.
One question is badi bi realy take zoya in ayan's room?


I don't think Asad will marry Tanveer...so no jaanu. 😃

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