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Posted: 11 years ago
#11
@niki-zoe will be going SM for sure..
i have too many doubts regarding asad insisting zoe to sign nikaahnaama...
its either his plan or simple stupidity and male chauvinism old school thought on his part 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: niki_12

Great post! I really feel Gaffur will side with Humera. He is going to HATE Zoya and we have Raziya to add fuel to the fire who will also give the worst to Zoya. Ayaan is irresponsible and selfish so i doubt he will own up to his responsibility either. IMO he will also reject Zoya. I don't see Zoya moving to SM before the nikahnamma is signed. Now whether it is signed or not is a question. What leads up to the signature is important as well but I feel it is just Asad telling Zoyaan to take responsibilities of their action and marriage is very important and possible to save face in society. Just like when he thought he was Billi's kid's father he took responsibility. IMO since Zoya's name was wrong the nikah namma will have the wrong name too and so Zoya won't have to sign it. While many feel this is Zoya's path to SM and it is probably at the same time I feel Gaffur/Raziya will be HUGE hurdles. Humera has been Gaffur's ladli all her life and he is not going to see pain in her eyes. I feel this way because the minute Humera recovered we stopped seeing Gaffur sad about Zoya. He is a hypocrite!

I think the purpose of this track will be for Zoya to hate Gaffur and for Gaffur to hate Zoya. Ultimately, Ayaan's lack of compassion in the matter may also intensify the bro clash. I doubt Gaffur reveal is happening so soon. I have always thought that when Gaffur finds out Zoya is his daughter Zoya has to be her happy/chirpy self. If she is going to be in SM forced in a loveless marriage where AyRa love eachother and she is longing for Asad-Gaffur reveal won't have the same impact. So i don't see the point of her moving to SM. But i may be wrong. If she does not move the SM this track has other purposes as well:
1. AyRa will get stronger because Ayaan will become Humera's protector and Humera will trust Ayaan
2. Zoya will become much more mature
3. Up till now, post BIlli Asad lived under MAJOR guilt and hence he was scared of getting too close to Zoya. We all saw that. Plus, Zoya's constant "I am right" had to stop. Now they will be leveled because Zoya will also be guilty
4. Zoya will see Gaffur's worst through this in addition to Raziya's.
5. Zoya will be emotionally tormented. Everyone points fingers at the girl 🤢 And when you have creeps like Haseena then rest assured it will happen
6. Asad will prove to be "watching over Zoya" and be her protector and fight for her
7. Asad will in front of society claim Zoya as his and that she is not alone
8. Zoya will realize that her destiny lies with Asad and she has to fight for it and not just leave it

When this is all cleared up and the nikah is shown to be invalid there will be a lot of bitterness between Zoya and Gaffur and Asad and Gaffur. Plus the bro's may be at loggerheads as well. The wrong name of the father on the nikah namma may kick start the father search again. There is bound to be questions of who is Zoya's father if it is not the dude whose name is on the papers. AsYa will unite IMO and Gaffur search will start and possible once AsYa are married BOOM gaffur reveal happens and at this point both families already hate eachother and Gaffur despises Zoya.

On a side note-even during SR fiasco separation after a few episodes AsYa were shown in the same frame. Gul realizes that without AsYa she is not going to get her trp's. Now if Zoya moves to SM on Asad's insistence I don't even know what they will show in KV besides maybe an episode or two of Asad/Dilshad crying. But if this whole Zoya is married and plays out and Zoya is still in KV the angst will be much more greater!



With the amount of focus on the ZoYaan marriage I do see Zoya shifting there temporarily. Ayaan will be a sympathetic figure here along with Humeira. I expect Ayaan to try and tell the truth but he will get shut down by tehzeeb and izzadar dialogues from Gaffur. Humeira, though, who knows the situation may believe him. Now, Gaffur to save face will instigate the second wedding for ZoYaan, to legalize it. The marriage will still be invalid, however, ZoYaaan may not be able to convince anyone of that and Zoe will be forced to live in SM. Here, Gaffur will make her life hell along with Razia while she and Ayaan will work very hard to prove their innocence.

In KV, we will see Asad realize that the nikaah was never valid and will now make an attempt to fight for Zoya and of course protect her. Depending on the ratings they will be reunited only to have the father secret bomb.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sujataraje

@niki-zoe will be going SM for sure..

i have too many doubts regarding asad insisting zoe to sign nikaahnaama...
its either his plan or simple stupidity and male chauvinism old school thought on his part 😆


I know thats the majority opinion and makes sense too! I mean its most likely it will happen. But how? Will Ayaan accept her as his wife and forget all the promises he made to Humera? Unless its a Asad-Ayaan plan somehow I don't see Ayaan being so selfless.

Also, we all are thinking the obvious...this will take Zoya to SM...but wouldn't the angst be 100X if a Zoya who is married to Ayaan is still living in the same house as Asad?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: delena90



With the amount of focus on the ZoYaan marriage I do see Zoya shifting there temporarily. Ayaan will be a sympathetic figure here along with Humeira. I expect Ayaan to try and tell the truth but he will get shut down by tehzeeb and izzadar dialogues from Gaffur. Humeira, though, who knows the situation may believe him. Now, Gaffur to save face will instigate the second wedding for ZoYaan, to legalize it. The marriage will still be invalid, however, ZoYaaan may not be able to convince anyone of that and Zoe will be forced to live in SM. Here, Gaffur will make her life hell along with Razia while she and Ayaan will work very hard to prove their innocence.

In KV, we will see Asad realize that the nikaah was never valid and will now make an attempt to fight for Zoya and of course protect her. Depending on the ratings they will be reunited only to have the father secret bomb.


Makes sense! But Gaffur will get Zoyaan married in front of Humera? And Raziya will allow it?

I see how Asad part fits in. I guess this is when he will step foot in that house to protect Zoya!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: beekay1


I agree with you. It is too early for the Gaffur track.

The result of the stay at SM this time would be any of the below situations.

[1] Gaffur to like Zoya without knowing that Zoya is his daughter but for Zoya to dislike Gaffur and all that he stands... this way there is more angst when she realises that Gaffur is her father, for Zoya a disgust that Gaffur is her father and for Gaffur the heartbreak.

[2] Gaffur to dislike Zoya even more for everything that she stands for but for Zoya to have a longing for a father like Gaffur...

The music box represents Gaffur.
Asad mending the music box is that he would try to mend his relationship with Gaffur for Zoya's sake. It maybe a temporary mend, that's why, the music box was mended with band-aid which is temporary and not welded which is permanent.
Gaffur leaving the music box behind is that he would probably transfer (MAYBE) his love to Zoya out of quilt or maybe just accept Zoya as his daughter.

Thanks for the different perspective...different people different strokes...

I like your take on outcomes of the SM stay. A lot will depend on how Gaffur and Zoya end up liking each other when the truth of all truth, Zainab's murder will come out.

But I would really like to see AsYa reunite for good after this track. Aur kitne seperations aayenge?

Haan...interesting take on the music box symbolism too. I was just being literal with the current scenario and Asad forcing Zoe to SM prediction. Because, Zoe currently has what belongs to Humy (invalid nikaah but still, this is going to be questioned during these next few months by the characters, we as audience are all knowing😆)

Let's see where Gul mata and Mr. Muqaddar take us...
Rivs
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: niki_12


I know thats the majority opinion and makes sense too! I mean its most likely it will happen. But how? Will Ayaan accept her as his wife and forget all the promises he made to Humera? Unless its a Asad-Ayaan plan somehow I don't see Ayaan being so selfless.

Also, we all are thinking the obvious...this will take Zoya to SM...but wouldn't the angst be 100X if a Zoya who is married to Ayaan is still living in the same house as Asad?

yaar logically it does not make sense because even if asad ask her to get lost she shold go back to NY as nikaah itself is not valid and she consider it as mistake😃
but cast confirmed it many times first shalini then karan and now surbhi too😆

i have stopped looking for bit of logic in show ...because they do not serve even a pinch of logic..so for me in logic department QH is in last row of shows😆

so without using logic and going by zoyaan it might go the way-zoya agrees to sign nikaahnama...
ayaan agrees to accept him to being home on insistence of gafoor who has been pressurised by society and his maulvi friends😆

the are thousands of questions in my mind-
regarding nikaah only😆baaki to chhod hi de😆
1-why maulavi did not read the groom's name on board???
2-when maulvi recognised ayaan why didnt he ask for his family once???
3-why he didnt ask for bride's family???
4-why he cold not see that bride and groom are talking on phone???
4-why there was system of saying haan haan and that too once???
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sujataraje


i am sure about two things

1-for gafoor his image in society and humeria are the most important things in his life...
Agreed. Did he not once say image in society is bigger than Daughter's happinees? I think this was when Nikhat broke her engagement and Ghaffur and Rashid had the argument. This is why I feel he will break Humy's heart (literally) with his decision. Maybe eventually he will repent, and try to correct the wrong done to Humy.

2-he loves zoya even pines for him as being first daughter and leaving her in childhood but again he accepting her at the cost of humeira and life is last thing he would do😆 This I am with you on...which is why I feel there with be Humy/Zoe conflict, most likelyone sided similar to Shireen/Dilshaad, fueld by the maa of all maas', Razia.


now i am sure gafoor truth will not come anytime soon atelast until zoe is in. SM..because then there would be no story and conflict left..😆 Kyon? Asad/Zoe ka seperation ek baar mein khatam hone do...Later when she finds out, again she will try to walk out on him, again Asad ka sad rota chehra, again milna accepting the past...too many seperations left still😕😆

max rashid truth might come ...i am not hopeful for that but yes it might come..otherwise what gul gonna show these atleast 2-3 months??? zoya trying to be good bahu?? ayaan falling for her?? asad crying buckets????
But then Rashid truth will make the ridge between AsYa and Rashid/AAK bigger, no? ya phir Zoya will find it in herself to forgive Rashid his mistake? But if Asad is away from her, how will she convince him to forgive Rashid?

there would be difference of opinion between gaoor and zoya about everything...razia will not let gafoor and shireen to like or treat zoya well..
I am including Humy in the list of people under Razia's influence.😆

i am still confused about nikaah naama...
and yesterdays episode was full of loopholes and illogical thinking Sau takke sahi baat...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sujataraje

yaar logically it does not make sense because even if asad ask her to get lost she shold go back to NY as nikaah itself is not valid and she consider it as mistake😃
but cast confirmed it many times first shalini then karan and now surbhi too😆

i have stopped looking for bit of logic in show ...because they do not serve even a pinch of logic..so for me in logic department QH is in last row of shows😆

so without using logic and going by zoyaan it might go the way-zoya agrees to sign nikaahnama...
ayaan agrees to accept him to being home on insistence of gafoor who has been pressurised by society and his maulvi friends😆

the are thousands of questions in my mind-
regarding nikaah only😆baaki to chhod hi de😆
1-why maulavi did not read the groom's name on board???
2-when maulvi recognised ayaan why didnt he ask for his family once???
3-why he didnt ask for bride's family???
4-why he cold not see that bride and groom are talking on phone???
4-why there was system of saying haan haan and that too once???


You are right! I am being too logical! 😆

But nikah namma is still invalid...i really hope she reads her name on it...warna toh really all logic is gone! 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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One more point...this muqaddar promo was from 11-16 so that period is over. I originally felt the blind fold was a secret AsYa nikah but the chances of that seem very slim at this point. So the blindfold was Zoya blind in Asad's love and thinking that he will come get her out of any trouble if she lands into it. Because of billi she goes off route and ends up into Ayaan's arms even though IMO she expected Asad. That's it I think promo is done. The blindfolding part is over. I may be wrong again. And now the montage is Asad, Ayaan, Zoya with Ayaan and Zoya at loggerheads away from eachother and Asad glaring angrily from the back IMO at Ayaan.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: niki_12

Great post! I really feel Gaffur will side with Humera. He is going to HATE Zoya and we have Raziya to add fuel to the fire who will also give the worst to Zoya. Ayaan is irresponsible and selfish so i doubt he will own up to his responsibility either. IMO he will also reject Zoya. I don't see Zoya moving to SM before the nikahnamma is signed. Now whether it is signed or not is a question. What leads up to the signature is important as well but I feel it is just Asad telling Zoyaan to take responsibilities of their action and marriage is very important and possible to save face in society. Just like when he thought he was Billi's kid's father he took responsibility. IMO since Zoya's name was wrong the nikah namma will have the wrong name too and so Zoya won't have to sign it. While many feel this is Zoya's path to SM and it is probably at the same time I feel Gaffur/Raziya will be HUGE hurdles. Humera has been Gaffur's ladli all her life and he is not going to see pain in her eyes. I feel this way because the minute Humera recovered we stopped seeing Gaffur sad about Zoya. He is a hypocrite!

I think the purpose of this track will be for Zoya to hate Gaffur and for Gaffur to hate Zoya. Ultimately, Ayaan's lack of compassion in the matter may also intensify the bro clash. I doubt Gaffur reveal is happening so soon. I have always thought that when Gaffur finds out Zoya is his daughter Zoya has to be her happy/chirpy self. If she is going to be in SM forced in a loveless marriage where AyRa love eachother and she is longing for Asad-Gaffur reveal won't have the same impact. So i don't see the point of her moving to SM. But i may be wrong. If she does not move the SM this track has other purposes as well:
1. AyRa will get stronger because Ayaan will become Humera's protector and Humera will trust Ayaan
2. Zoya will become much more mature
3. Up till now, post BIlli Asad lived under MAJOR guilt and hence he was scared of getting too close to Zoya. We all saw that. Plus, Zoya's constant "I am right" had to stop. Now they will be leveled because Zoya will also be guilty
4. Zoya will see Gaffur's worst through this in addition to Raziya's.
5. Zoya will be emotionally tormented. Everyone points fingers at the girl 🤢 And when you have creeps like Haseena then rest assured it will happen
6. Asad will prove to be "watching over Zoya" and be her protector and fight for her
7. Asad will in front of society claim Zoya as his and that she is not alone
8. Zoya will realize that her destiny lies with Asad and she has to fight for it and not just leave it

When this is all cleared up and the nikah is shown to be invalid there will be a lot of bitterness between Zoya and Gaffur and Asad and Gaffur. Plus the bro's may be at loggerheads as well. The wrong name of the father on the nikah namma may kick start the father search again. There is bound to be questions of who is Zoya's father if it is not the dude whose name is on the papers. AsYa will unite IMO and Gaffur search will start and possible once AsYa are married BOOM gaffur reveal happens and at this point both families already hate eachother and Gaffur despises Zoya.

On a side note-even during SR fiasco separation after a few episodes AsYa were shown in the same frame. Gul realizes that without AsYa she is not going to get her trp's. Now if Zoya moves to SM on Asad's insistence I don't even know what they will show in KV besides maybe an episode or two of Asad/Dilshad crying. But if this whole Zoya is married and plays out and Zoya is still in KV the angst will be much more greater!


Hey Niki,

Thanks for the response.
I too was initially thinking that Gaffur will reject Zoya. But with the turn of events, where society came to give badhai to SM folks, I started wondering if he will accept Zoya just to save face.

Nikahnama is a big question...I too am doubting it...but we can all speculate a little... I am also hinging my doubts on the wrong name/no nikkah/ no sign theory.

haha...well he did get a little emotional about Zoya during the humy/ghaffur hug scene...

Nikki can I give u a big jaadu ki jhappi. I too am not seeing much logic with what is happening currently and what is being predicted. However, I am going to give everyone a chance and just try to open up the floor for discussions of what ifs? SM at this point, is kinda pointless, unless she goes to find clues about her abbu,IMHO but I can be wrong. I don't have as much Gul or even QH experience.

I agree with a lot of the points you mentioned...
I love the intelligent discussion on this thread because of all you guys...
Rivs

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