Why can't they fall in love and consummate?? - Page 5

Originally posted by: delena90

WORD!

Though I dislike the idea of Zoya being objectified. This whole as long as they don't consummate thing is hypocritical - what do they expect Ayaan and Zoya to do - be miserable for the rest of their lives?

I'm in two minds about this.
I agree with you, but.. I'm having a hard time digesting this supposed marriage, not because of ASYA OTP FOREVA, but how it happened. As the story stands right now, Ayaan and Zoya would most definitely be miserable in the marriage than out of it. So, why wouldn't they opt for an immediate annulment?
That's the thing, even if Zoya sticks to this, this would be total character assasination btw, why would Ayaan? And why would he agree to stick to this? Putting a lid on all that, I do agree that if Gul wants to put them together and keep them together, the most logical way to go about it would be to make them start working on it. And yes, it definitely shouldn't be a problem that, in the end, if Zoya indeed goes back to Asad, she shouldn't be judged for trying to make it work with Ayaan. And consummation is part of it.

Amazing and much needed post!
Why are we so obsessed with consummation? I mean I understand that it seems to be the pinnacle of romance in the serial world but who are we to lay out rules for love and relationships?
If Ayaan and Zoya do get married, there is nothing wrong in consummating their relationship if they are in love or if they want to. I know its weird to think that Zoya might later go on to marry Asad but to cry foul over a Zoyaan consummation is silly. If you take Asad out of the equation, would there be anything wrong with Zoya divorcing Ayaan and marrying someone else? No right? So like the TM says if we are still willing to dream of Asya as endgame even after a Zoyaan marriage, we should be willing to accept whatever happens.
And I don't understand this progressive stuff. If we are progressive because we find it ok for a woman to consummate her relationship with her husband and later for whatever reason, divorce him and marry someone else, then good that we are.
Love is not called pure in the physical sense. It is a pure feeling that goes above and beyond obstacles. If two people are in love then they belong together irrespective of their past and that is all that matters.

Originally posted by: Rorschach

The moment Zoya marries Ayaan and vows to stick with marriage, AsYa is over. Its as simple as that. There is no confusion about that.😊

Originally posted by: A.Hajnal

And you think Gul to stick to that plan...?? NO way...because I, we KNOW, IF Zoyaan happened, even then Gul will want Asya to happen in the end...This is how she is thinking to sell her story...Asya are what we all want, and she wants to eat the whole cake and save it for later at the same time...THAT is what I hate the most...IF Zoyaan happened then they fall in love and consummate or don't fall in love and consummate, fall in love and don't consummate...I won't care about about them at all...Damn, they can do what the hell they want...But Gul and PH should KNOW that THERE is NO WAY they can have Zoyaan and Asya one after an other...NO WAY...

Originally posted by: A.Hajnal

And you think Gul to stick to that plan...?? NO way...because I, we KNOW, IF Zoyaan happened, even then Gul will want Asya to happen in the end...This is how she is thinking to sell her story...Asya are what we all want, and she wants to eat the whole cake and save it for later at the same time...THAT is what I hate the most...IF Zoyaan happened then they fall in love and consummate or don't fall in love and consummate, fall in love and don't consummate...I won't care about about them at all...Damn, they can do what the hell they want...But Gul and PH should KNOW that THERE is NO WAY they can have Zoyaan and Asya one after an other...NO WAY...

I agree. Kudos for voicing this about our hypocricy. Teleserials have made fun of marriage, and more importantly a sensitive issue like divorce in a country that still needs to learn how to rsepect and not objectify women.

Originally posted by: Rorschach

Lately there are so many posts stating that this is mere a track, this was bound to happen, Zoya and Ayaan will never consummate, AsYa are end game.

Now i dont understand our fixation with word 'Consummate'. If they are getting married (forced or unforced) and some how make promises to stick to the marriage then why can't they fall in love and later consummate.

Why this moral policing and kolaveri di about 'marriage is ok but how dare they consummate'.

If i remember, in india most of the marriages are arranged where girl and boy are mostly stranger to each other and few of them have a past too. They may or may not fall in love like star crossed lovers but i am sure all of them do consummate. So why this laxman rekha between zoya and ayaan.

Now coming to Asya being endgame. logic is, Zoya will divorce Ayaan and then Asad will accept her because he is truly and madly in love with her.

Now if zoya would have already consummated with Ayaan, should this prevent Asad from accepting her??

People marry, get divorced and remarry why then this fuss about consummate or not to consummate.

If we are ready to accept a girl marrying two brothers then i don't think we have any moral ground to dictate whether they should consummate or not.

Originally posted by: Saathfan

I don't know what kind of trp Gul is hoping for but if zoyaan get married with validity. It is end of Asya for me. If there is no Asya then there is no QH for me. I have not watched since Tuesday and frankly I am delighted to have stopped watching then watch this immoral, atheistic soap. Gul revs up allahs name so fervently but does the incesting thing in presence of Quasi a holy man because she is in love with tannu.

Originally posted by: monaco

I agree. Kudos for voicing this about our hypocricy. Teleserials have made fun of marriage, and more importantly a sensitive issue like divorce in a country that still needs to learn how to rsepect and not objectify women.

Originally posted by: srashti_kul

right way of thinking...

Well i don't know what to say exactly since i don't think i understood you post well. So i will just say my POV

1)Marriage is no joke a girl marrying two brother's is also wrong for me but since we have no control over this we cant do much and accept that zoya will marry two brother's

2)But yes atleast if they don't consummate it will save Asya and Ayra. Because if they do fall in love and consummate its end of Asya and Ayra. I am sorry but i am not that advanced to accept a girl sleeping with two living brothers. I guess what i am trying to say is zoya marrying two brother's is still acceptable to me but her sleeping with both the brother's is wrong and sick in my mind. And i don't think i am a hypocrite for thinking that. Because in my mind zoya and ayaan's accidental marriage will never be true marriage until they fall for each OTHER. Just because you have exchanged vows doesn't make marriage valid. Marriage becomes valid when you truly accept each other with your whole heart if not marriage is not valid in my eyes

SO zoyaan marriage is invalid till they don't full accept each other so if before that they get divorced and marry asad and humeria respectively will be ok. But once they fully accept each other and consumate their marriage their marriage becomes valid in my mind. Just saying the vows doesn't make a marriage valid but fully accepting them and loving them makes them valid. After that if ayaan and zoya get divorced and go back to the other brother and sister i am sorry its sick in my mind

To summarize if ayan and zoya do fall in love Asya and ayra are over they should never show asya and ayra marrigae. But if they don't fall in love and consummate asya and ayra can still happen because zoyaan marriage will not be valid atleast in my eyes

And it may be or not be 17th century but consummation is a big deal. Being a feminist doesn't mean that you say consummation is not a big deal. Because when we say consummation it doesn't mean just having sex it means making love which is a completely different thing I dont mean that I am against having multiple partners or consummating before marriage. I am against being said that consummation is not a big deal it is a big deal and should happen with some one you truly love or else it not consummation but just sex