Originally posted by: Closed...
AGREED and awesome post
I was so pissed off after what they showed because 2 years back, my friend and I went to watch the late night movie premier of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows... By the time when we were getting back home it was really late and we were in trouble.. And I mean trouble... Now I don't have a cell phone and so doesn't she... We had to go to a coffee store nearby to call my parents...And I live in Canada which is considered a very peaceful and safe country... And oh boy, my parents and brothers were mad as hell at me... I wasn't allowed to go anywhere for months without my parents...
And my mom wasn't like "Bechari" or some crap to me... She slapped me right across my face and yelled at me for days... But you know what, when you are caught in a serious situation like that, you don't blabber and talk some noble preachy speech like Zoya... You run and scream for your damn life... And no way in the hell would my parents or relatives butter me up with some "Bechari" card...
And what crap were they going on about with the jeans???? I don't live in India but I'm pretty sure half of the girls in India wear jeans and t-shirts nowadays ... IT'S NORMAL... I HATE HOW GUL TREATS LIKE WEARING JEANS IS ALIENATED IN INDIA and ZOYA is the only girl in the world who wears them... .. IT IS NOT... And I am Muslim and we wear jeans too.. Not those ugly flare ones like Zoya but we wear nicely fitted skinny jeans every single day as liberal Muslims(Not all)... Zoya isn't the only one wearing jeans in the world... I hate how JEAN'S is brought into everything... In fact, as far as I know, wearing jeans is the norm for today's generation...
As far as Zoya's " message"... I was like "shut up"... She didn't realize her mistake at all... In fact, they went further to make Asad accept that she can do everything on her own and take care of herself and what not... Huh?? She was the careless one... You can't justify her carelessness... She isnt a nieve kid... She is "from" New York which by now doesn't even seem close to it... We are very well educated about these issues and matters in school at very very young ages in North America... It is even part of the educational curriculum to be taught and learn about health, public issues, etc... And obviously you have said it all... For me, it wasn't even a half-baked message... It was a wrong message because at the end of the day, we have to take the extra step to take responsibility fr our own well-being and Zoya just pointed out Rajbeer's fault and the fault of rapist losers in India(which are not only in India but everywhere as you mentioned ) .. But she didn't acknowledge her own fault... Wrong message overall... What about the precautions she should have taken or we should all take...??? Better safe than sorry... UNREALISTIC, wrong, and stupid in my eyes.
Thank you! And everything you just said..thank you! Absolutely agree with it all. Even my brother who is very liberal and open minded always tells me to watch out for myself. I was in the library till 3am once and I texted my brother telling him. He told me to call campus security and have them drive me back to my apartment (I was living on my own). Even my American friends never let me leave their place alone if it was super late or walk late. We always went places in groups. So people need to get over this 'freedom' and 'sexist' stuff.
My parents are the exact same way and if I were in Zoya's place, the situation would have been ten times worse for me when I got home.
Don't even get me started on the jeans. I've been born and raised in the U.S and I'm Muslim as well, and me as well as plenty of others are fashion conscious and wear skinnies and what not. I'm not from India, but I know even in Pakistan many girls wear jeans unless you're in the really really traditional villages (but from what I know even those places are slowly changing). I can get the whole judging thing with clothes, but to constantly bring it up is annoying. I myself have been judged by conservative Muslim guys, and in the beginning appreciated what Gul was doing, but she has brought it up in every single matter to the point where she is even connecting it to an issue like rape. Instead she could have shown a traditional girl like Najma or Nikhat being stalked and targeted. It would have at least shown that this can happen to ANY ONE and no matter who you are you need to be safe and protect yourself. Also being liberal shouldn't just be shown through this dress thing. It should be shown through thought as well and education. Gul gives us this crap about Muslims moving forward but makes it seem like we can only progress if we wear jeans. What happened to getting higher education and a job? What happened to doing something with our lives? She obviously has no idea what liberalism is.
The whole time Zoya was talking, I was just going in my head, does she even hear herself? I hated Asad's reaction as well. He should've beaten the crap outta the guy (and no not just cause I wanted to see him fight lol). I've been stalked before by a guy in college, and when he didn't get the message, I had to tell my brother because I was worried. My brother was ready to intervene right then and there. It's not about her being able to handle it herself and independent, but about looking after yourself and if you feel something is not right let someone else know because anything can happen. They haven't made it seem to be Zoya is from New York and independent. Just because you stay out after dark and go to a few places by yourself does not make you independent. As far as I know, she's lived with her Api and Jeeju and we don't know her living situation there. Zoya knew the guy was not good from the beginning yet she still went out to see him when he came to her home in the middle of the night (obviously he would get the wrong message). Even at that moment she admitted he didn't seem right yet didn't tell anyone.
Even in the most developed of countries, we are careful and always reminded of safety precautions. When something like this happens in the area or neighborhood, rape, murder, kidnapping and etc, the media tells us to take care of ourselves and what we should do in such situations. We teach our kids from a young age to never talk to strangers and not go anywhere alone. There's a reason for all that.
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