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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: CanadianChik

Hello girls - me back 😳


The surgery did not happen - fever is back It will hopefully happen next week now 🤢

Thank u for the entertainment at the hospital - I am so glad u girls were chatty yesterday as the nurse put the IV in my left hand and since i am a lefty it would have been hard to navigate the IF through my phone but since i have this thread bookmarked (thank u Honey for the idea) i had no problem entertaining myself😉

So here are my thoughts

I personally did not see anything wrong with what Zoya said for yesterday back at KV for she was Najma's voice as Najma was too timid to speak up.

Hassina bi issue from Zoya POV
Lets not forget Zoya is from US where joint families are not a norm nor is the MIL given so much importance as it is in India. Zoya has been fortunate that her future MIL is more of a mother to her than a MIL to her so she does not realise the significance of a bitchy MIL - and even if the MIL is a witch it does not matter for in her opinion Imran will take a stand as he proved himself. After all wasn't even Nikhat ready to put up with her?

For all those saying her comment of Nikhat will move on was not okay and comparing zoya during the ASYA separation phase IMO there is a huge difference -
After the SR incident Zoya ended up at the Madrasa because it was not love but it was her trust that was broken - Zoya is someone who has always trusted and followed her instincts - never in her wildest dreams did she think Asad would be a cheater and when that happened she had lost faith in her own capability to trust humans therefore had isolated herself. At that time she had thought he loved her but SR had proved her instinct to be incorrect - she knew she loved him - not that he loved her so when he found her at the madrasa she distant her and left for Ajmer without informing him - she moved on!!!

Before the baby issue had come out but Asad had said no to second Nikka she had stayed back at KV and tried to fight for Asad as he had confessed he loved her - but Nikhats case is not the same for the love is not reciprocated Therefore from Zoya's POV Nikhat who was strong and level headed at Hassina bi's place would have an even bigger reason to move - that being that Imran declared in front of everyone that he did not love her and was always in love Najma!

However when the baby issue came she decided to move on again and was going to move out of KV and then go away knowing fully well that they both loved each other. Therefore Zoya saying Nikhat is yes upset so Ayaan is legit in is outburst but eventually she will move on as Nikhat herself said - u cant forcefully marry someone!!!

Zoya disregarding Nikhat feeling and being insensitive
Najma is Zoya's bbf and some who she has always protected whether it was from bullies at collage and therefore getting arrested and getting scolded by Asad or if it was protecting Najma from her own brother cause she had cut her hair. Now Najma is even more dear to her than those initial days for she is a sister to Zoya - remember her line to Tanveer- she only took Najma's name - so she wants her happiness and what is best for her. She understands the other 2 sisters are also important to Asad but she has never had any contact with them - not on SR night nor at the Eid function.

Additionally Nikhat herself pretended to be okay so well that her own family was shocked and she herself gave Najma's hand in Imrans. So from Zoya's POV they have Nikhats blessing to go ahead with the rishta which had been the one condition Asad had put.

Zoya rushing the Nikka at dinner scene
Am i the only one who see the relation between her Ta Umr line and why she is rushing for Najma's nikka? For Zoya being in a committed relationship has no meaning - her parents were in a committed relation but still her father left abandoning her and her mom. So in her opinion until one is not married the relationship is not permanent - For most of us (including Nikhat) being engaged is practically that u are married - at least mentally but that is no so for Zoya - and that is also the reason she is so insecure with Asad and request him to marry her fast.

For all those still upset with Zoya - have u seen the new spoilers?😉


CC! Feel better yaar! Hopefully the surgery will happen soon.

I agree with every single word you said!! Especially how it is wrong to compare Nikhat and Najma. In Zoya's mind, Imran is amazing. He confessed his love for Najma in front of everyone. Even Asad has not done that. Zoya believes what she sees and hears and she saw love and support from Imran towards Najma. Today even Asad said it. Mohabbat helps a person stand up for what they believe in.

I agree with you completely! I don't think we should blame Zoya.

And now I am sure she will find out about Imran's truth!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: CanadianChik


Hey Deepa

Glad to hear from u - have tons of fun at the wedding - especially since the CVs seem to have forgotten ASYA ka wedding 😆 just kidding

we miss u a lot on the thread but have fun and enjoy ur self

Take Care
CC/Cara😉


Hi deepa!! Miss you here!! Have fun at the wedding and congratulations!! 😃
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: AsadkiDeewani


That is true. Actually, even when I writing my post, I thought that too. I've seen him actually get actually angry at Ayaan basically twice - when he burned Imran's car n then when he called Asad sautela n Asad didn't simply forgive n forget. I mean, yea, for the holi thing, he did but at least, he held his ground for a bit. But I completely agree, Ayaan was totally being spoilt n actually arrogant. I mean, he did not even feel bad. At least, during the Haseena Bi's house time, we cud've have said it was said impulsively n cz he's hot headed but in today's epi, he was clearly saying it n not just out of impulse or anger or whatever. I really hated seeing Asad being so, I don't know, whether weak is the word but sort of broken up n trying to manofy Ayaan so much. I also didn't like that. But maybe, here's where the sautelapan (hate using that word) sort of creeps up even without him knowing. Its like since they don't live together or are not exactly saga, a big fight cud easily destroy the relationship. I think that's wt worries him n that's why he often tries to compensate.


Somewhere deep Asad is feeling Guilty for the current situation. He may be blaming himself for whatever happend at Haseena's house. From the day he got to know about Nazma-Immi, his concern is that he should not hurt Nikhat nor Nazma. He feels responsibile for both. That is why he still did not give green signal for the Nazma-Immi marriage. He talked to Nikhat and he incurred that she is ok with the break up and moving on. Still he was not 100% sure. I think he feels, he did not put enough effort to know Nikhat's true feeling He did not at any cost want to build one sisters happiness at the cost of other. But things got out of control.. Thanks to Haseena. Ayaan accused him of not caring for Nikhat and for not seeing her pain. For Asad, it is very imp that Ayaan realises and believe that , he cares for all his siblings equally.
Asad's actions are always driven by his beliefs and his truth. For some reason, right now he feels he is the reason for the pain his sister and bother are going thru. Hence the effort , the apology etc.

Asad is ok with Nazma- Immi marriage now , bcze Immi clearly voiced his love for Nazma and his "not in Love" for Nikhat. Immi voicing his love for Nazma and knowing from Ayaan that he never stood up for Nikhat, has convinced Asad that Immi is indeed in love with Nazma. Like he said today, Love gives strength to one to voice his/her feelings.
Asad who loves Nikhat and only wants her happiness knows that she will not be happy with a man who is not in love with her.

Asad know that Ayaan is still not agreeable to Nazma-Immi marraige. He is ok with this . .As he know he is not wrong here. Hence it soes not bother him anymore (atleast I think so)

In Rashid's case, he at no point felt guilty for whatever he was doing. He went against Ayaan's wishes and his Ammi's ..

That is our Asad. A man with principle and to most part unbiased and not driven by emotions.
What drives him is conciousness

Said all that, Why did Asad tell Ayaan, one word from him and he will put a stop to Nazma-Immi Rishta? And if Ayaan were to say "Yes" , what would Asad do? Didn't Asad promise Nazma, that he will never come in between her happiness? Didn't he also say to Nazma that if it is meant to be , nobody can stop her marriage to Immi? Noteven himself. Didn't he say that whom Nazma marries is her decision and he will not force it on her ?

So, I would say the dialogue was there just to add the drama element. 😉. So was the dialogue, that all the miseries heading Nihkat's way has to first bypass him (lol).. Really how can he make sure of this? Esp, when he does not have that much visibility to what is happening to Nikhat on a day to day basis ? Drama full on.. 😃. No practicality..
But I thoroughly enjoyed watching it ..



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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: niki_12

Okay so i will go back and respond to the posts from the last few pages but here are my thoughts for today's episode!


Ayaan is a selfish jerk!

Asad is still feeling guilty

Raziya is going to take revenge from Rashid

Zoya-Najma-Asad scene was super cute!!

My theories going forward in a red lamba wala post in a few mins 😳


Waiting 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
Chota sa addition:

The brothers have not resolved their issues. Ayaan just gave up because of Nikhat's kasam. That does not mean he has understood Asad and somewhere he probably still thinks wrong about him. Plus, he almost warned Asad today and emotionally blackmailed him for which Asad said he will always be with him. But the opposite is going to happen.

The next situation (Zoya's mother) is going to force Asad to side with Zoya and punish Rashid. Ayaan will expect Asad to be on his side and will even pull the whole you-promised-you-would-never-leave-me and now zoya is more important to you than your brother card. But that time I am sure Asad is not going to come and appease Ayaan like that. Zoya/Humera will work to patch the brothers up like Zoya did on Holi. BUT this will leave Ayaan bitter and when Gaffur truth comes out he will support Humera because Humera was his biggest support in the previous situation.

I can't wait. We are going to love the AsYa vs. AyRa!
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Posted: 12 years ago

Post kar diya...1 on page 16 and the other on page 17 😃
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Radaz


Somewhere deep Asad is feeling Guilty for the current situation. He may be blaming himself for whatever happend at Haseena's house. From the day he got to know about Nazma-Immi, his concern is that he should not hurt Nikhat nor Nazma. He feels responsibile for both. That is why he still did not give green signal for the Nazma-Immi marriage. He talked to Nikhat and he incurred that she is ok with the break up and moving on. Still he was not 100% sure. I think he feels, he did not put enough effort to know Nikhat's true feeling He did not at any cost want to build one sisters happiness at the cost of other. But things got out of control.. Thanks to Haseena. Ayaan accused him of not caring for Nikhat and for not seeing her pain. For Asad, it is very imp that Ayaan realises and believe that , he cares for all his siblings equally.
Asad's actions are always driven by his beliefs and his truth. For some reason, right now he feels he is the reason for the pain his sister and bother are going thru. Hence the effort , the apology etc.

Asad is ok with Nazma- Immi marriage now , bcze Immi clearly voiced his love for Nazma and his "not in Love" for Nikhat. Immi voicing his love for Nazma and knowing from Ayaan that he never stood up for Nikhat, has convinced Asad that Immi is indeed in love with Nazma. Like he said today, Love gives strength to one to voice his/her feelings.
Asad who loves Nikhat and only wants her happiness knows that she will not be happy with a man who is not in love with her.

Asad know that Ayaan is still not agreeable to Nazma-Immi marraige. He is ok with this . .As he know he is not wrong here. Hence it soes not bother him anymore (atleast I think so)

In Rashid's case, he at no point felt guilty for whatever he was doing. He went against Ayaan's wishes and his Ammi's ..

That is our Asad. A man with principle and to most part unbiased and not driven by emotions.
What drives him is conciousness

Said all that, Why did Asad tell Ayaan, one word from him and he will put a stop to Nazma-Immi Rishta? And if Ayaan were to say "Yes" , what would Asad do? Didn't Asad promise Nazma, that he will never come in between her happiness? Didn't he also say to Nazma that if it is meant to be , nobody can stop her marriage to Immi? Noteven himself. Didn't he say that whom Nazma marries is her decision and he will not force it on her ?

So, I would say the dialogue was there just to add the drama element. 😉. So was the dialogue, that all the miseries heading Nihkat's way has to first bypass him (lol).. Really how can he make sure of this? Esp, when he does not have that much visibility to what is happening to Nikhat on a day to day basis ? Drama full on.. 😃. No practicality..
But I thoroughly enjoyed watching it ..




Same to same views!! i said the same thing in my red wala post 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: niki_12

Okay so not a bad episode today but I am really having AsYa withdrawal big time. Ek AsYa scene dene mein kya jaata? Why did we need so much pagal khana?


Anyways so here is my take:

Pagal Khana Scene-Raziya is not going to let this go. She will definitely take revenge from Rashid. She may be guilty but she is the queen of evil and she will definitely get back at Rashid. It was nice to see Ayaan caring for Humera. He put Humera before his ego, his hatred for Raziya, and his father's wishes. Humera holds a new place now. For Humera-woh apno ke khilaf bhi jayega!!

Asad-Ayaan scene- Asad loves Ayaan a lot and any problems between them hurts him tremendously. While I did not appreciate him leaving Najma's life in Ayaan's hands I did understand him and he was justified. He feels guilty. Why didn't he give into Ayaan's wishes during the Gudiya Factory/Rashid fiasco? Because that time he knew he was right and Ayaan was wrong and he was not going to support the wrong even if Ayaan was against him. Yes it ripped him apart but that was the right thing to do. But today he felt guilty and he was right in saying that they don't want Najma's house to be settled over Nikhat's sadness-and that is why he came to meet Ayaan. He blamed himself-for not being a good brother, for not understanding Nikhat's situation, for allowing Ayaan to have the misconception that he puts Najma over Nikhat. But just suppose had this been something to do with Rashid or just something which was wrong and Ayaan was supporting, I know for sure Asad would never support Ayaan then. NEVER! So if Ayaan is wrong he is wrong and Asad will not give into his wishes. The actual clash will happen then. Ayaan is an idiot. Too bad he does not understand the deepness of Asad's love and Asad's situation. The biggest selfish hypocrite EVER! He says he know his brother the best but that is all b.s. He kept harping about Nikhat and not once thought about Najma. But Asad thought about both. Had Nikhat not given Ayaan her kasam i am sure he would have told Asad to break the relationship. He is a selfish jerk and he will only understand Asad's value when he loses Asad. That will happen because when Ayaan is wrong in the future, Asad is not going to stand by him and then he will realize. I am sure the next clash will be because of Rashid burning Zoya's mother and then Asad is not going to stand by Ayaan. He will stand by Zoya! There will be more clashes as well all know between them and like I said Asad felt guilty this time so he made up for it but in the future when Asad is right, Ayaan is not going to feel guilty and then there will be differences.

Zoya-Najma-Asad Scene- I am sure Zoya-Najma fight is coming. IMO AsYa will get married and then Zoya will find out about Imran and try to break Najma-Imran's marriage. Najma will be furious that just because she got married now she does not care about her and she is trying to take away her happiness. Asad will stand by Zoya IMO.

Last point- Ayaan is still bitter and when Rashid issue comes up the fight between the brothers is going to be MUCH MUCH worse!

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When the time comes Ayaan is going to put Humera above everyone else and Asad is going to put Zoya above everyone else. For Humera's happiness he will even fight Asad and for Zoya's happiness, Asad will even go against Ayaan. The difference will be that AsYa will be fighting for what is right. They have always been the "right" couple (no hugging during Ramzan) and AyRa will be fighting for what is wrong!


Perfect Nikki. I am 100% with you. I posted something similar just few min back regarding Asad.
As you said, Humeria is in the top of Ayaan's List. Razia noted this point today. She is surely going to use this for her villany 😊. But I think at least for sometime she is going to play a low key villany.. She has to gain back her hubbys support. There is a spoiler floating around that Humeira will get to know the thruth and patch up with Ayaan. If this is true, I feel Razia will owe up to Humeria and that is how she gets to know the truth. Razia will surely act as if she is reformed and is repenting all she did against Badi bi..
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: niki_12

Same to same views!! i said the same thing in my red wala post 😳


Yup I realised.. 🤗.
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Originally posted by: Radaz


Perfect Nikki. I am 100% with you. I posted something similar just few min back regarding Asad.
As you said, Humeria is in the top of Ayaan's List. Razia noted this point today. She is surely going to use this for her villany 😊. But I think at least for sometime she is going to play a low key villany.. She has to gain back her hubbys support. There is a spoiler floating around that Humeira will get to know the thruth and patch up with Ayaan. If this is true, I feel Razia will owe up to Humeria and that is how she gets to know the truth. Razia will surely act as if she is reformed and is repenting all she did against Badi bi..


Exactly! Finally Ayaan cares about someone more than himself. I am glad he loves Humera and I am very excited to see AsYa vs. AyRa because Ayaan is going to put Humera before Asad and Asad is going to put Zoya before Ayaan! At first these two brothers loved eachother the most but now they love their lady loves the most!! 😳

I agree completely about Raziya. She will keep low key for sometime and in the mean time the whole AyRa patch up and Najma-Imran-Billi angle will be shown. Then she will be back with a bang!

Yup Raziya noticed Ayaan's love. She will use it to her advantage.

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