Gul should have thought more

Originally posted by: pieryrose

Islam is perfect, we aren't.., blame it on us . not on our religion Islam

Originally posted by: pieryrose

the biggest problem is that the director and the writer isnt taking into considerations of muslim practices and they not implementing those practices in the serial..just like serials based on hindi culture, where they show numerous poojas and superstitious beliefs,saat janam thing and the way they do the occasions, their attire for occasions and stuff, similarly gul should have implemented Islam culture in qh.. they should have shown what Muslim culture is abt.. such as all women wearing hijab, not visiting mazar since its shirk, etc ...when hindi culture based serials show their practices in their serial, y cant Muslim culture based serials show Muslim beliefs and practices?? if they are unable to show what Muslim culture and how Muslim live, then gul shouldn't have made this serial... its not a joke for us seeing Muslim culture being pictured totally different from what we Muslims actually believe.. its a huge issue actually.. gul should have thought abt these imp things before she even took the decision of making and islam related serial... the way she is showing this is like making fun of Islam and Muslims..

Islam is perfect, we aren't.., blame it on us . not on our religion Islam

Originally posted by: mitwakaishq

The fact of the matter is the show is about Muslim culture and families and not the religion. Therefore, the portrayal is actually accurate, since culture always deviates from the crux of any religion (this is true of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism etc.).

There are plenty of Muslim women in India who don't wear hijab, and there are plenty of practicing Muslims who visit mazaars and darghahs.

It is also, important to note that aside from two occasions, there haven't been that many visits to the mazaar. And the first time it was for sanctuary for Zoya, and a prayer offering by Asad and Ayaan, which is what mazaars have always been, and the second time it was Rashid finding a neutral place to meet Dilshaad and for Zoya to find respite after her argument with Asad.

Islam, in comparison to Hinduism, doesn't have that many festivals or celebrations so it's hard to depict something that is ultimately v. personal because praying in Islam is certainly a v. personal thing. When the big events come along, such as Eid, that's when 'depiction' will matter.

I've also talked to quite a few of my Hindu friends, and they often tell me that the depiction of religious events in Hindi serials are blown out of proportion. Furthermore, a lot of housewives don't wear ornate sarees and heavy jewellery. At the end of the day while TV shows do have a responsibility to the audience, they are ultimately an entertainment product that take many dramatic liberties because it adds to the show.

Furthermore, what one family practices, is not the same as the next. Within the Muslim context you have breakdowns of subdivisions such as Shias, Barelvi, Wahabi etc. and they all approach the religion differently.

Also ultimately the show is more about family relationships and politics than it is about the religion. This is not television show about a Muslim family who have a complicated interpersonal politics, but about a complicated family who happen to be Muslim. The religion isn't as much at the forefront as the relationships are, not dissimilar to serials that focus on Hindu customs because those events tend to serve as a platform to heighten family dramas and tensions.

Originally posted by: mitwakaishq

The fact of the matter is the show is about Muslim culture and families and not the religion. Therefore, the portrayal is actually accurate, since culture always deviates from the crux of any religion (this is true of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism etc.).

There are plenty of Muslim women in India who don't wear hijab, and there are plenty of practicing Muslims who visit mazaars and darghahs.

It is also, important to note that aside from two occasions, there haven't been that many visits to the mazaar. And the first time it was for sanctuary for Zoya, and a prayer offering by Asad and Ayaan, which is what mazaars have always been, and the second time it was Rashid finding a neutral place to meet Dilshaad and for Zoya to find respite after her argument with Asad.

Islam, in comparison to Hinduism, doesn't have that many festivals or celebrations so it's hard to depict something that is ultimately v. personal because praying in Islam is certainly a v. personal thing. When the big events come along, such as Eid, that's when 'depiction' will matter.

I've also talked to quite a few of my Hindu friends, and they often tell me that the depiction of religious events in Hindi serials are blown out of proportion. Plus, a lot of housewives don't wear ornate sarees and heavy jewellery -- there are some but not that many. At the end of the day while TV shows do have a responsibility to the audience, they are ultimately an entertainment product that take many dramatic liberties because it adds to the show and the narrative, because they are in the business of telling a story, not showing the truth.

Furthermore, what one family practices, is not the same as the next. Within the Muslim context you have breakdowns of subdivisions such as Shias, Barelvi, Wahabi etc. and they all approach the religion differently. Like you said, the religion is not at fault, but the people are.

Also ultimately the show is more about family relationships and politics than it is about the religion. This is not television show about a Muslim family who have a complicated interpersonal politics, but about a complicated family who happen to be Muslim. The religion isn't as much at the forefront as the relationships are, not dissimilar to serials that focus on Hindu customs because those events tend to serve as a platform to heighten family dramas and tensions.

Originally posted by: mitwakaishq

The fact of the matter is the show is about Muslim culture and families and not the religion. Therefore, the portrayal is actually accurate, since culture always deviates from the crux of any religion (this is true of Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism etc.).

There are plenty of Muslim women in India who don't wear hijab, and there are plenty of practicing Muslims who visit mazaars and darghahs.

It is also, important to note that aside from two occasions, there haven't been that many visits to the mazaar. And the first time it was for sanctuary for Zoya, and a prayer offering by Asad and Ayaan, which is what mazaars have always been, and the second time it was Rashid finding a neutral place to meet Dilshaad and for Zoya to find respite after her argument with Asad.

Islam, in comparison to Hinduism, doesn't have that many festivals or celebrations so it's hard to depict something that is ultimately v. personal because praying in Islam is certainly a v. personal thing. When the big events come along, such as Eid, that's when 'depiction' will matter.

I've also talked to quite a few of my Hindu friends, and they often tell me that the depiction of religious events in Hindi serials are blown out of proportion. Plus, a lot of housewives don't wear ornate sarees and heavy jewellery -- there are some but not that many. At the end of the day while TV shows do have a responsibility to the audience, they are ultimately an entertainment product that take many dramatic liberties because it adds to the show and the narrative, because they are in the business of telling a story, not showing the truth.

Furthermore, what one family practices, is not the same as the next. Within the Muslim context you have breakdowns of subdivisions such as Shias, Barelvi, Wahabi etc. and they all approach the religion differently. Like you said, the religion is not at fault, but the people are.

Also ultimately the show is more about family relationships and politics than it is about the religion. This is not television show about a Muslim family who have a complicated interpersonal politics, but about a complicated family who happen to be Muslim. The religion isn't as much at the forefront as the relationships are, not dissimilar to serials that focus on Hindu customs because those events tend to serve as a platform to heighten family dramas and tensions.

Originally posted by: pieryrose

what i meant is that they showing this serial based on Muslim back drop, therefore they should show the Islamic religion practices... both religion wise and family relationships should be shown accurately if it is a Islamic based show... if not its better not to show it... cox it insults Islam..

Originally posted by: mitwakaishq

The key word 'backdrop'. It's not the foreground and the show is certainly not exploring theology; the Indian Muslim culture is the backdrop. Muslim culture which has evolved and adapted as it grew in India. Saudi Muslims are worlds apart from Indian Muslims. Heck, even Pakistani Muslims are different from Indian Muslims despite being neighbours and having the same roots because the 50 years of separation has resulted in their Muslim cultures evolving differently.

QH has shown Islamic religious practices -- they've shown people to pray and most recently a Quran Khawani, and that is within the context of what is common practice. Not everyone attends a Tarawi on a daily basis etc. and this is true of most Muslims today.

Yes, there are people who recite the Quran daily and observe all 5 prayers but these are all v. personal and private practices -- no one does them for show, and therefore showing such scenes would negate this notion of personal and private religion, and take away from the v. core of the religion which is humility and modesty even in devotion, reverence and worship.

There are plenty of Muslim who don't do the aforementioned and they believe in their religion. Religion is something that is a part of your individual choice, and if it's normal practice, it is not something you need to discuss or mention constantly because there is no need; it is what it is and it's there for you. It's not about a display of belief but the strength of belief.

Furthermore, the things that are ingrained and part of our second nature we do not ever feel the need to depict, discuss or display because what we already know we don't need to spell it out for ourselves, and we assume we don't need to spell it out for other people, either. It just is and drawing attention to it would be taking away from the Muslim culture in India because it would suggest that it's unknown practice.

You don't have characters who are drinking, or attending parties right, left and centre in clothes which are against the Islamic code. Even the issue of bigamy is being treated appropriately -- they aren't congratulating Rashid on his poor behaviour towards his first (and now ex) wife or his second wife, but they are showing a man who knows he has made a mistake and is repenting for it.