AsYa & Ammie: Ek thappad ki ye goonj. - Page 2

Originally posted by: blueflames

Emotional fury meets guilty remorse . Often, the other person doesn't need your 'sorry'. The person needs to either scream out loud or break something to release the lava inside. That is what happened with Asad and Zoe today. Zoe came to Asad at the wrong time and straight into the line of fire.

agree, when the emotional turmoil takes it toll, its better to stay away from that person for a while, gusse mey insaan se bht galtian ho jati hai. she saw how he ignored her standing n walked past her, bt she been zoya, wanting to help Asad went to the lion's den. n there the lion pounced on her not thinking for a second that she might be helpful, he didnt speak just reacted, i think he regretted it for a second, but then his fury took the better of him n he left without actually killing her.

I don't think a man's pain and agony is any different from a woman's and for me, they sit equally on the balance of feelings. A man slapping a woman is just as hurtful as a woman slapping a man.

Violence of any kind or any order , is not justified .Ever. But not everything in life is black and white , there are grey twilight areas as well. Asad's slap to Zoe is not justified under any circumstance but its seed and where it has come from is understandable from every single angle.

agree, violence of any kind is non negotiable, we can have a debate that could lead to world war of justifying n being against violence. one should see from where asad is coming, his anger, his helplessness, he is giving faith to his sister, acting bravado, where as in solitude he is crying, n zoya intruded that solitude at a bad time.

i cannot believe that one slap of Asad could be taken as a national agenda, of whats happening in reality. there have beeen shows where worse has been happened. but forgeetting everything Asad is being bashed for his act of insanity.

i feel k zoya ko itna bura nai laga hoga jitna humey lag raha hai. cuxx she is to understand what phoophi is to Asad n what bond they share.

Originally posted by: VictoriaHot

...Haan, toh ji arz kiya hai...

Ki ye jo ek chaante ka safar hai,

Lagta hai Asad aur Zoya ka safar abb tough se tougher hai.

Today's episode should be renamed -Thappad ki Goonj.🤔😆

Before i start my post, i want to make one thing VERY CLEAR. I cannot choose my favourite character between Asad and Zoe. I love both of them equally and I see both of them objectively, putting myself in their shoes and i do not judge people under any circumstance. I prefer seeing where the person is coming from and what triggered the action and reaction.

Asad was not angry today. That would be an understatement. He was FINISHED and perhaps even he doesn't know how he stood there on his own feet , without collapsing as the most important person in his life lay in the ICU, hanging between life and death. Its tough to even put into words the mental and emotional condition of a person who is about to lose everything in a matter of time.

And what did Asad remember ? Zoe-Maryam-Ammie. Unaware of the truth and his mother's compassionate act, he only understood that he could lose his mother because of Zoe's lie. All the anger, chaos, trauma, devastation and terror got directed towards Zoe.

And Zoe? Is she guilty for Dilshie's condition? Logically, no. But in sentiment , she is. And she felt that deep down. She knew Asad was furious-is-an-understatement-dude with her , yet she went to him, to apologize, to say something that would take the load off her chest and make him feel better.

Emotional fury meets guilty remorse . Often, the other person doesn't need your 'sorry'. The person needs to either scream out loud or break something to release the lava inside. That is what happened with Asad and Zoe today. Zoe came to Asad at the wrong time and straight into the line of fire.

WHAM. Came the slap. Not from a 'man' to a 'woman'. It came from a troubled broken soul to its 'supposed' villain/vamp. It shook Zoe while it did nothing to bring down Asad's cloudburst. A slap for a wrong reason , from a shattered heart to a not-guilty heart.

I maybe in minority and frankly, i don't give a camel's toe about it. But for me, violence of any kind - against a woman, against a man, against an animal are all the same. I don't think a man's pain and agony is any different from a woman's and for me, they sit equally on the balance of feelings. A man slapping a woman is just as hurtful as a woman slapping a man.

Violence of any kind or any order , is not justified .Ever. But not everything in life is black and white , there are grey twilight areas as well. Asad's slap to Zoe is not justified under any circumstance but its seed and where it has come from is understandable from every single angle.

One slap , one normal human reaction from Asad does not change the way i look at him, nor does it undo all the good that he has done. He was, he is, and he always will be a mixed bag with a flawless heart to me. Just like Zoe.

I don't know about others but if that one person around whom my whole life is woven was battling with life and death because of one 'supposed' person, i wouldn't leave the person with that one slap. I would beat the living daylights out of the person - irrespective of his/her gender and irrespective of my gender.

I don't look at the Asad-Zoe situation as a woman, i look at it as a human-being who can fall now and then, but always correct the wrong upon realization.The heart has no gender BTW. It aches the same in everyone.

Anyway. Karan, Surbhi and Tamaatar were too good today.

P.S- I have been reading a lot of ' under no circumstance should a man hit a woman' on this forum . Well, likewise, ' under no circumstance should a woman hit a man'. But the million dollar question is - how do you predict the viscosity of a 'circumstance' and what it will do to you?

Oh, well. 😆

I completely agree with your point on the the fact that violence should be viewed without gender bias. it's not right either way and I firmly believe that too. For me, regardless of the emotional turmoil Asad was in the wrong. Do I understand where the character was coming from?-Sure but that doesn't make him right.

Also on a more unrelated note I personally feel it was slightly irresponsible for this particular scene to be shown because there are many people who may view physical violence amongst loved ones as okay and it isn't. Men, Women, Children, Cats, Dogs...etc no one deserves it! Women in India (all over the world too) need to learn to stand up to their abusers,

Now, I don't think Asad is abusive...or at least not physically abusive but the focal point of this track should be that Asad knows he has done wrong. If we are talking about realistic reactions then I also expect Zoya to not forgive him. If this happened to me... I know it would take a lot for me to move past this...and I am not sure a simple apology would do it.

Woah..that was so well wrtten👏 Honestly, i loved the epi..How brilliant was KSG..I loved that lil scene between Asad and Najma where he puts up that false facade of strength to give that much needed hope to his sister..He blatantly ignored Zoya and i was desperately hoping Zoya doesn't attempt to talk to him😆 Given his state of mind, i completely understand where Asad is coming from but my heart broke for Zoya..Her expressions once Asad left were truly heartbreaking..And i totally loved the fact that Asad went to inform Rashid. To me personally, thats where his character shone through. Keeping all his hatred and anger aside, the fact that he stepped into that house just for the sake of his ammi shows Asad's strength of character. The dignity with which he conveyed the information was brilliant. I really dont fault anyone in this situation..Both Asad and Zoya are brilliantly etched characters brought to life so beautifully by KSG and Surbhi..Both are flawed but have amazing strength of character..

Originally posted by: VictoriaHot

Thanks.😃... I second you as well. I don't think we should judge Asad as though he 'planned' this slap. Taqleef mein hai, infact, bahot taqleef mein hai, aur saara gubaar nikala gaya Zoe pe. Only because he thinks that Zoe is responsible for all this. He has no idea of the truth and we know that he will be worse when he comes to know and realize what he did.

Ppl need to cut that guy some slack and stop nitpicking on him, considering all the pros and cons of the current situation.

very well written. awesome take!!!

hey vicky, totally loved your post.i dont find the slap a big deal at all.first of all, this is a fictional show with fictional characters, they are not real.and apart from thatisnt it so very sexist to say that it is ok for a woman to hit a man but not ok for a man to do the same?i thought that asads grief, anger came pouring out of him.and by the way zoya ka yehi problem hai,no tact,she just doesnt understand when people should be left alone.he did not go up to her to slap her.she in her iam going to put all things right spirit went up to asad and badly shook him emotionally.

Originally posted by: _vineeta_

Very nice post again...

I am against hitting woman, but under circumstances I would have done same probably if I were him. I always say its easy to judge person and his actiona from far than living it...

One thing more after I read update, Mariyum accepted he came for her, but Najma didnt hate her. Asad knew but he didnt hate her..

Why Zoya, because she is not Mariyum or anyone, she is very close to him. Dont they say, when you are really hurt, you hurt the people who are closest to you the most sometimes intentionally sometimes unintentionally. And here he did intentionally...

Now if she loves him, she will understand it too as Zoya maybe is practical, but emotional too..

Cant wait for the day when storm passed..

Originally posted by: delena90

I completely agree with your point on the the fact that violence should be viewed without gender bias. it's not right either way and I firmly believe that too. For me, regardless of the emotional turmoil Asad was in the wrong. Do I understand where the character was coming from?-Sure but that doesn't make him right.

Also on a more unrelated note I personally feel it was slightly irresponsible for this particular scene to be shown because there are many people who may view physical violence amongst loved ones as okay and it isn't. Men, Women, Children, Cats, Dogs...etc no one deserves it! Women in India (all over the world too) need to learn to stand up to their abusers,

Now, I don't think Asad is abusive...or at least not physically abusive but the focal point of this track should be that Asad knows he has done wrong. If we are talking about realistic reactions then I also expect Zoya to not forgive him. If this happened to me... I know it would take a lot for me to move past this...and I am not sure a simple apology would do it.

Originally posted by: VictoriaHot

Thanks and i understand where are you coming from - but then, different ppl and different reactions. Asad was like a horse with horse blinders today and the slap came unplanned. Zoe should keep distance from Asad unless his pain melts her candle like heart. She is too much of a softie in that case.😆

Yeah maybe Zoya shouldn't have gone to him but as you said she's a softie. I just really hope she makes him suffer...he deserves that much. lol