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Charishma thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Gurtiluv:
I think the problem is that there is a very little grey area in television between male characters who are autocratic and those that are complete sissies (like stupid Manav from Pavitra Rishta. My god I hated that show. I used to watch it and write long essay posts about how much I hated it 😆)

I like it when they make a true alpha male. Someone who is confident by nature and doesn't need to throw his weight around to make himself feel like a man. So far I'm giving Yash benefit of doubt. Butt...he's making it hard.
Edited by Charishma - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: saminak12

I hope ansh Payal and Palak becomes friends maybe ansh should get hurt then yash will realize that for aarti all the children are equal



@saminak12: That will eventually happen. Especially after this incident, as Yash will realize his folly that he can't bulldoze his way through a little boy's heart...and that his daughters were the initiators of this disaster. Hopefully then good sense will prevail and he'll ask for Aarti's help in their bonding process.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Seems like our DC club had fun time dissecting todays episode. I still have a lot of catching up to do. But can I say I absolutely loved todays episode. It was heart wrenching but I think a very significant episode in terms of ArYa's relationship.


First the positives:


I think Yash has finally and absolutely accepted the fact that Yash is his son. That can only be good for ArYa's emotional attachment towards each other. I loved the way when he calls the school how without any qualms he says "my son is missing".


I also loved that Yash thought that whatever their issues, its between them but I am not sure if I was too crazy about the way he dragged her to the balcony.


I loved Aarti running down to meet the kids or rather Ansh. A mothers anxiety for the well being of her child was so beautifully portrayed by the worry on her face and her payal adorned feet running down the stairs.


I loved how Aarti grabs the phone from Yash's hands to call Shobha like she had every right to.


Now for the heartbreaking stuff:


Yash's lecture to Aarti may have had some validity did he have any basis to throw these accusations at Aarti? Wasn't his accusations based on observing Aarti and Ansh's relationship just for over a week or so. Is that enough to judge Aarti the way Yash has judged her? Aarti was at fault too when she judged the Scindia's Parvarish of the girls but she politely asked them if she could step in and do what she thought was right. Here, Yash forcibly steps in does what he thinks is right in spite of a mother's misgivings.


Also, I do think Aarti can be indulgent with Ansh but I really can't get how she can be blamed for being over-protective in this environment. If I was in Aarti's place I would never ever leave my children out of my sight in the Scindia house. Not one of them ( here I'll cut Yash some slack but not much) have proven to be responsible or understanding enough to deal with a 5 or 6 year old child going through a major emotional upheaval. They have completely sidelined his uncertainty in his new environment as nonsense.


Oh! how painful was watching Aarti and Yash today. Aarti's devastation and Yash's remorse. I felt so sad for both of them. No parents should go through what they are going through today. I am hoping the CVs are trying to bring out in the open what the girls have been doing behind everyone's back and also why meaningful and effective communication between Aarti and Yash is so important.


Finally, if this ordeal does not bring AarYa together then nothing else can.


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Posted: 13 years ago
@Indu: I'm hoping he realizes he's going wrong with Payal Palak. Maybe he will have a change of heart, and then it'll be the family to win over next. G3 and Bua won't be happy about giving up control.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: angake

I loved how Aarti grabs the phone from Yash's hands to call Shobha like she had every right to.



Yes! That. It was one of the highlights of the episode for me. Ofcourse, she was beside herself with worry. But still. It was 👏
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Posted: 13 years ago
Hey peeps!

So i just caught up on the last four episodes. Do forgive me if some of the things i say have already been said, but, I saw them all as a chunk. I won't cover *everything* that will be too tedious to me and anyone who cares to read😆

7th May: Changing Schools

Completely floored by Yash's imperious decision to change Ansh's school. Granted his arguments about giving children the best possible education in a highly competitve world were all well-taken...but his high-handed manner was totally uncalled for. 😕 I'm glad he followed her into the room to explain, but, the bottom-line is he did something totally unnecessary. While I am not sure he would put it as crudely as his father -- that men make the decisions -- he does certainly believe and act that way. Arpita probably subscribed to that school of thought...and he's never been challenged, but, it's about time someone did...


I thought Aarti was actually very polite in her "questioning" this decision, whether in front of the family, or in the privacy of their room. More so than necessary. In fact, every time Aarti has opened her mouth, even to put her foot in it (the famous parvarish show-down), she's been extraordinarily polite about it. Always eyes lowered...The eyes lowered thing is one of my pet peevs...I HATE it when people don't look me in the eye...esp. hate it when women are expected to lower their eyes in front of men/elders...loath it, detest it, abhor it...you get the point 😆

Even in her "maaf kijiye Yah ji main is baat ko nahin manti" she kept her eyes lowered...that was a damp squib to me...They still argue like strangers...and that's not surprising, they ARE strangers. So far their "fights" have left me cold...you can't really fight unless you really care...I want to see an eyes flashing, if looks could kill, no holes barred knock down drag out kind of fight...( ladies and gents who've been there know exactly what i'm talkin' about 😉😆)

but that can happen only once they lose some of their inhibitions with each other...they do have it in them...i guess I have to wait...

Bua's "ladke ki jagah" line: And that's the crux of the problem here. These people firmly believe in " A place for everyone and everyone in their place"...esp. when it comes to gender. Needless to say, I find this mind-bogglingly regressive. Yet, I was forced to conclude that I have had inflated expectations of Aarti's progressiveness ...I think there is something to say for Bua crass statement of Aarti having to take on the man's place after P's departure...She has been forced into being the independent decision maker, the single parent... All this leads me to wonder...if circumstances had not forced her, she might actually have been the pliant daughter-in-law the Scindias seem to admire? I am not saying that this somehow makes her "inauthentic"...Not at all. We are, after all, shaped by our experiences...All I am saying is that she has it in her to be all the things the Scindas want (unlike Pari)...but she can't be that way...her past has ensured that...Hope that made sense...

On the subject of Bua...Crikey this woman spews venom!
What I found fascinating was the moment when Paridi hugged Pratik for making her fav. food. Did y'all notice Bua's hysterical laughter? As soon as P&P got close...she went nuts!!!! She really is frustrated...😕


May 8th: Yash continues to disappoint

Okay so he can do push-ups with his daughter on his back...but that "once I decide I never change my mind" was plain dumb...All I can say is those are famous last words...esp. with reg. his "decision" that Arpita is the only woman he'll ever love...I wanna watch Yash eat those words...not just with that but with a lot of other things...He might think he;s all macho and manly to be so intransigent...but it takes a wise man to admit his mistakes and make changes in the way he does things...here's wishing Yash some wisdom and maturity...

Further disappointing was his "tit for tat" advice to Ansh
The girls were scared by that and I think that prompted the preventive measures they took ton the foll. day...made sure they attacked before being attacked...


Today

I am really flabbergasted at this system of parenting that Yash seems to favor. I agree that sometimes children need to be forced, but he doesn't know Ansh...Aarti does. He seems to have made up his mind that Aarti spoils Ansh. Just like Gayatri. Thats bogus. After all they've been in Scindia house for less than a week...Everyone is being overly judgmental...Aarti too for her part...but I am focussed on Yash here because he's been acting like an ass for the last few episodes and I am totally unimpressed by his lectures...and frustrated by his unbending and imperious attitude and his peremptory actions

All this comes from making an ill-considered and hasty decision to marry and not having talked things through with each other. Here both Yash and Aarti are at fault. And who is suffering? The children. Esp. Ansh. The girls are on home ground and are in the position to create mischief.
You can't throw these children together and expect them to get along and love each other.. esp. since PayPal have already expressed fears and are being constantly frightened and encouraged by Bua and Gaya...They need to be talked to...treated like people who have minds and personalities...not like plastic dolls...Children need to be treated like human beings too...the Scindias seem to have missed this memo...

My post has largely been a litany of complaints against Yash...lso what do I lose? Let me add one more..😆 His "promise" to his mother that he will take responsibility for Ansh and that Ansh will never again be naughty...hellooo??!!!😕 What sort of promise is that????? A totally unacceptable one in my view. Ansh has a personality...he is an open, lively and mischievous child...surely Yash doesn't want to destroy that????? WHYYY can't these people accept Ansh and Aarti as they are? Make *mutual* adjustments?????? They want to erase Aarti and Ash's personalities and re-make them to suit their convenience...well. it ain't happening, so there...they'll *all* have to change...whether they like it or not! whether they realize it or not!


In the end, I hope Ansh is safe...fingers crossed

*edited*
ooh ooh one more thing in my list of why i want to smack Yash Scindia

During his sanctimonious bhashan to Aarti today...(yep I am MAD as hell)...he gets on his high horse and claims never to have interfered or questioned anything Aarti has done with the girls...
First I was like...okay yeah maybe that's true...then i was like, WAIT A DOGGONE MINUTE!!!!
What about the time when all the kids were horsing around on your bed? Who ordered them out? Who said a BIG FAT NO to Aarti's extra five mins of play time? to a play date at the park???? Those things, in hindsight, might have brought the kids closer together...
Yes Yash didn't interfere when Aarti combed the girls' hair...but we've seen your track record there...yes he doesn't demand that Aarti change the color of handkerchief PayPal carry ( btw does anyone use handkerchiefs anymore?😆)...that would be pretty strange...All Aarti has done so far is feed them, dress them, cajole them into listening to a story...and you want our admiration and thanks for not interfering in those things???!!!😕 😕 😕 What the *&^%???????

I really need Z here to express what I am feeling...😆 Z? Where are ya babe?








Edited by narangi_77 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Charishma



Yes! That. It was one of the highlights of the episode for me. Ofcourse, she was beside herself with worry. But still. It was 👏


I know! She was going crazy with worry but still at her lowest point she acted out with such "apnaapan" towards Yash. 😳
Edited by angake - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
okkkay that was a long post and there's still so much more to say! This is what happens if you get behind! 😆 Don't worry...I 'll keep this short!

I just wanted to add one thing...when I last posted on this forum, I was really disappointed that Aarti hadn't set Ansh free and that she was party to the conspiracy of silence that Gayatri had engineered.

That led me to the depressing thought that this love story was going to become yet another one in a looong list of patient-heroines-suffering-in-silence-till-hero-comes-to -the-rescue...


I am happy to say that I judged too early...

Aarti may not be the fire breathing feminist I might like her to be 😆 but she ain't a total pushover either. And Yash is by no means the white knight...in fact Aarti is going to have to do some rescuing of her own...
These are just two very imperfect people who will fall for each other "just as they are" to paraphrase the immortal words of Mark Darcy...😆

HUGE SIGH OF RELIEF!!! I can go back to loving this love story...😍

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Posted: 13 years ago
@narangi-77

I am also glad that Aarti isn't your typical damsel in distress. She has been an independent women for a long time now and certainly knows how to stand up for herself remember the hockey stick incident.
Edited by Gurtiluv - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
This is what i would like to see happen in the coming days:

Tomorrow:
That lady on the bench. I hope she just gives Ansh the opportunity to get everything off his chest. How is afraid to tell anyone how horrible PayLak are to him.

It looks like Ansh is outside the school so hopefully AarYa will see him there, but will be listening to this poor boy express his sadness to a complete stranger.

I see AarYa running to Ansh and hugging him but Ansh not wanting to speak to either one of them. He doesn't understand why his Mom is not defending him to Naya Papa. He is mad at Naya Papa for not listening to him.

Maybe after hearing Ansh's confession, when they go home, Aarti blasts G3.

"So, when my son caused your son pain visa vi the hair pin, you locked him in a closet with no light, no water, no food for hours. You threatened me that if I released him you would lock yourself up in a room and not eat anything...

Now that your granddaughters have caused pain to my son, how will you punish them? Can you honestly say to me that you see no difference between the three of them?"

then aarti walks away with Ansh and G3 says:

"Arpita Bahu!"

and Aarti says:

"Mera naam Aarti hain. Yaad rakna."

I want to see Aarti take Ansh in her arms and walk out to go back to the Dubeys.

I want to see Yash look completely dumbfounded as to what just happened. I want Yash to confront PayPal in front of his mother, Vidhi and Pari and have them tell him everything that was done to Ansh. I want Yash to find out G3's punishment was a result of PayPal. I want him to know that Aarti had gone to the bazaar upon his mother's request. That she wasn't even there. I want him to have flashbacks to him saying she was overprotective and not wanting ansh to leave her side. I want him to realize that she doesn't want to leave ansh with them because of what they did and what they continue to get away with.

I want Yash to go to the Dubey's and fight to bring Aarti and Ansh back. I want Yash to see Aarti in her natural element. Not wearing a sari, being a mom. I want Yash to make the decision that he and his girls move in with the Dubey's since his house is so toxic. The only way Yash can fall for Aarti is if he sees her for who she is, not who they are trying to make her to be.

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