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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Ekta: Thanks for liking my analysis. I am quite busy, so will not be able to write daily commentaries for the time being.

It has only been three episodes where they have shown characters so far. So far they have only concentrated on Raj's family. So Sarita's treatment is shown too. So audience know more about what Sarita went through with an indifferent husband and an abusive in-laws. That's why there is all these sympathy for Sarita. Also, since Sarita came to know the truth at the very last moment, many feel that she had no choice but to get married to Raj.

Here they have not shown Raj's story as to why he did show up at the end. Why did he agree to marry her? Was he upfront about his inability to love her ever? But still there is sympathy for him because Divya left him. To me, just based on whatever is shown so far, he is responsible for Sarita's condition. As far as abuse is concerned, I doubt that he is even aware of what Divya goes through at his house. There is no communication between him and rest of the family. He comes quite late and he and Sarita also do not communicate. It doesn't seem as if Sarita even talks about his family with him. We have to see more of him in the family setting to see his behavior. But the way he switched off the fan, it seems that he is considerate of her in terms of physical comfort.

To me, Divya is not coming selfish at all. She is in her own world, but is not selfish. A selfish person doesn't throw away her dreams for the sake of the family. Here she left Raj to fulfill her responsibiities. But even if she had done it for her career's sake, that is fine too. The question is why she expected hi to wait for 10 years. Well, yesterday there was a dialogue from Divya that she had thought that Raj would understand her and her compulsions. So it seems that Raj was aware of her responsibilities. Also, she more than likely thought that Raj would know that she waited for him for 10 years considering she is a public figure. She may have unreasonable expectations, but why does that make her unsympathetic. She was a teenager when she left and she had dreams of a teenager which she did not give up on even in 10 years. So how does her dreams make her unsympathetic? If anything, they were broken rather brutally for her because she moved back to Bhopal thinking that they would come true.

As far as Divya forming a negative opinion of Sarita, Sarita has also done the same. She seems to think that Divya is the only one responsible for her condition whereas so far Divya has not done a single thing. Did she tell Raj's family to treat Sarita like this? Or did she tell Raj to ignore his wife? So how is this Divya's fault? If it is anybody's fault, it is Raj's or his family's.

So Divya has a negative opinion of Sarita, Sarita has a negative opinion of Divya, and Raj has a negative opinion about Divya. So there is only one way to go forward. All three will change their opinions about each other when they start interacting with each other. So far there is no interaction among all three characters. At this point, audience know about these three characters but these character know about each other either from somebody's viewpoint or through indirect interactions.

The viewers' opinion would change once they show more interaction. And even if they don't change, it would just mean that characters are written that way. Also, everyone has their own opinion. So a same character would be perceived in a different way by different people.


Here I am finding all three characters sympathetic in one way or other based on what has been shown so far. I can find even sympathy for Raj because of the way his family has been shown. My liking for any character is not based on whether I like that actor or not. I like all three characters because so far they have shown layers to all three of them with nobody being portrayed as mahaan.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Angie : As you feel right !! I said bcoz negativity is increasing in the forum for Divya what she is not .We sympathize with sarita as she is living in a loveless marriage and such in laws .Regarding Raj ,don't know whether he knows about the treatment sarita is going through. He should know it as in these 10 years ,he would have witnesses it at least once.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ok here is my view regarding the show. Basically for me it is not important who lands up with whom. At this moment I am watching this show because I am finding Divya, Sarita and Raj very human characters with human qualities in them. None of them are mahaan and none of them are negative. They are all reacting to circumstances based on what they know of the situations and also on their nature and their ideals/ expectations from life.

I do have some questions...
1)Why did Divya run away hiding from Raj when she is a very open person? If she can tell everything to Yash who is a stranger to her then why did she not explain herself to Raj? Or did she explain and Raj was not able to accept her POV regarding looking after her siblings and wanted her to sacrifice them for him? Did she think that once Raj's anger decreases then he will understand her POV and wait for her?
2) It was shown that Sarita knew that Raj loves someone else and he does not want to get married...then why did she marry him? Since she was openly waqrning her MIL that she might tell her parents then it cannot be that she is worried that her parents will not support her if the truth comes out. Did she think that she can woo Raj and make him forget Divya? Did Raj's family member hoodwink her in getting married to Raj by telling her that after marriage everything will be ok.
3) Raj loved Divya then why didn't he wait for her? Did he get married to Sarita because his ego was hurt because he thought that Divya did not give him importance? His father might have forced him but being a man could he not have stood his ground? Couldn't he not have walked out of his family and supported himself?


Regarding not showing Divya's viewpoint clearly...maybe that is to do with the screenplay.Either they might be bringing her down in front of the audience only to show a twist where they will bring her up by showing that she is the person who is going to make Raj-Sarita's relationship work. The other option is that they might show Raj getting together with Divya..but then the twist might be that Sarita is not really positive. Ultimately it all depends on TRP regarding who is going to land with whom. That is why I am more interested in the journey of these three characters and not in who ends with whom.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73

Ok here is my view regarding the show. Basically for me it is not important who lands up with whom. At this moment I am watching this show because I am finding Divya, Sarita and Raj very human characters with human qualities in them. None of them are mahaan and none of them are negative. They are all reacting to circumstances based on what they know of the situations and also on their nature and their ideals/ expectations from life.

I do have some questions...
1)Why did Divya run away hiding from Raj when she is a very open person? If she can tell everything to Yash who is a stranger to her then why did she not explain herself to Raj? Or did she explain and Raj was not able to accept her POV regarding looking after her siblings and wanted her to sacrifice them for him? Did she think that once Raj's anger decreases then he will understand her POV and wait for her?
2) It was shown that Sarita knew that Raj loves someone else and he does not want to get married...then why did she marry him? Since she was openly waqrning her MIL that she might tell her parents then it cannot be that she is worried that her parents will not support her if the truth comes out. Did she think that she can woo Raj and make him forget Divya? Did Raj's family member hoodwink her in getting married to Raj by telling her that after marriage everything will be ok.
3) Raj loved Divya then why didn't he wait for her? Did he get married to Sarita because his ego was hurt because he thought that Divya did not give him importance? His father might have forced him but being a man could he not have stood his ground? Couldn't he not have walked out of his family and supported himself?


Regarding not showing Divya's viewpoint clearly...maybe that is to do with the screenplay.Either they might be bringing her down in front of the audience only to show a twist where they will bring her up by showing that she is the person who is going to make Raj-Sarita's relationship work. The other option is that they might show Raj getting together with Divya..but then the twist might be that Sarita is not really positive. Ultimately it all depends on TRP regarding who is going to land with whom. That is why I am more interested in the journey of these three characters and not in who ends with whom.


I have answer of your underlined question from my personal experience . in this kind of set up guys are just business deal thats why his father did not ask him . As for Raj he may not be financially independent , then how he could have supported Divya and her responsibilities . Even if he was , his father would not have let him marry Divya . If her parents died he must be knowing that it will be divya,s responsibility being the eldest one ..As for Sarita , how much money background you have , people specially from this community think , you have to stay in your in laws house . And in small town people still think that guy will forget his love
All this situations and characters reminds me so many people , who suffered for many years then became rebellious
..Here i do not find anyone negative just the victims of circumstances .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: AntaresVega


Don't bring PV1 here please!
If u want to say anything about it, say it in the PV-ZMD forum.
I know you're refering to PV-ZMD here.


sorry i have not seen any show after CB ..I was just talking generally as in Hindi shows, DIL are just black and white . are again repeating treated like guinea pig ,testing how much crap she can take ..Here at least none is negative , have their own reasons for their behavior / actions . just past will unfold the untold story

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neerjaa


sorry i have not seen any show after CB ..I was just talking generally as in Hindi shows, DIL are just black and white . are again repeating treated like guinea pig ,testing how much crap she can take ..Here at least none is negative , have their own reasons for their behavior / actions . just past will unfold the untold story



Yeah I've seen a lot of shows where the character's are either completely positive or completely negative. The shows where the DIL's are treated badly though are usually (not always) progressive shows because it highlights the issues in society. I haven't watched many of the shows, but I'm a big fan of this PH, so I've seen their 3 on air shows. All of them have really well developed character's who have shades of grey. In one of the PH's shows, there is a lot of saas-bahu stuff that goes on, but the main objective of the show is to show how the girl who gets married to an orthodox family manages to become an IPS officer, which is a brilliant concept. If I start talking about how amazing this PH is with characterization, storyline and social messages, I'm afraid I won't be able to stop talking, so I think it's best that I stop here lol. I'm loving this show because all of the character's (even the side ones) have been written very nicely.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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just saw the episode. I have nothing watch after pv 1 so decided to check pv 2. The only character which attracts me for now is Sarita. I curious to know what goes on with her. I like Sarita's scene more than Divya. For me Sarita character stands out more. If the story folds in a way that Raj ends up with Dyivia than it would not sit right with me. Let see how things fold in the story. So for now i might just keep watching for Sarita only.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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These three characters Divya, Raj, Sarita...are suffering from their own mistakes..yeah its true they have flaws and thats what makes the show dinamic, if any were perfect people it would have been dull...there is smth good in them and thats love, each love someone but made wrong decisions...and still living in their own hell...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neerjaa


I have answer of your underlined question from my personal experience . in this kind of set up guys are just business deal thats why his father did not ask him . As for Raj he may not be financially independent , then how he could have supported Divya and her responsibilities . Even if he was , his father would not have let him marry Divya . If her parents died he must be knowing that it will be divya,s responsibility being the eldest one ..As for Sarita , how much money background you have , people specially from this community think , you have to stay in your in laws house . And in small town people still think that guy will forget his love
All this situations and characters reminds me so many people , who suffered for many years then became rebellious
..Here i do not find anyone negative just the victims of circumstances .

Running away from home with 3 sisters is just escapism and from responsibilities, in an Indian home marriage is not a one day affair there are so many ceremonies so running away the last day is no solution even if reluctant to marry. so will have to W & W what happened the story is yet to unfold till now we know the current circumstances and feelings of the characters as of today and that Divya left and Raj was heartbroken and searching for her in the station she hiding and that they both loved each other. Sarita ill treated but she is not meek and answers back but does the major household work and ignored by her husband who does not give her any rights as a wife but little bit caring for her comfort which is shown in his switching off the fan when she was shivering.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Misti,

You wrote very good points. Here even I am not concerned with who is going to end with whom even though it seems that creatives are going in one particular direction with the story the way Sarita is being presented as opposed to Divya and Raj whose backstory or view point is being kept ambiguous.

Also, I know that today was only the 4th episode as the first two episodes (where PV1 cast was shown) was just a prologue. So need to wait to see more of characters of Raj and Divya. However, saying all that, I was somewhat not satisfied with the rain scene shown today especially when only Divya was being shown.

They are probably going to reveal more of Divya and Raj's back story when the two characters finally meet and have a confrontation. However, the flashback shown when Divya was riding her scooty was inadequate in my opinion. They showed in previous episodes that Divya was possessive about Raj and Raj was crazy about her. In today's episode, they showed a connection between the two where despite their anger/disappointment towards each other, both have a feeling when the other one is near.

But I would have preferred to see a meaningful flashback that would explain at least partially why Divya felt that Raj's love was strong enough for him to wait for her for 10 years. So far they have shown that Divya is unaware of a big part of Raj's life. She knew his address but virtually nothing about his family. So how were they so close? It may be true that CVs are trying not to show Divya's view point because either they are preparing for a big twist or because they are waiting for reaction and this allows them to change characters. However, if it is a story of three characters, I want to see a view point of all three or at least of Divya too.

But today they did expand on the 4th character who was introduced at the very beginning for a moment. So there was some symbolism here. In the first meeting, Divya and Raj collide with each other and felt a connection. But this guy came in the middle just when Divya turned towards Raj. Today, Raj was the one to almost help Divya but did not finish the help. It was this guy who was there for Divya at the end. Raj abandoned her just when the destination was in sight. Was it something that happened the same way 10 years ago. Also, this guy seems a better foil for Divya's high stung nature where he seems to be calm and grounded. He is also shown as a very secure person who despite being attracted towards Divya is honest enough to tell her that it was some other guy who was responsible for rescuring her for the most part. So I am getting interested in this 4th character too even though he is not the main character.
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