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Posted: 13 years ago
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I thinka religious restriction is very important. And wtt is the point of follwing a religion if u r going to compromise it every second for someone's happiness. If the Ghandi's don't appreciate onion in thr kitchen that should be respected by Hetal.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: stranger11

I thinka religious restriction is very important. And wtt is the point of follwing a religion if u r going to compromise it every second for someone's happiness. If the Ghandi's don't appreciate onion in thr kitchen that should be respected by Hetal.


All religions are man made and should be improved and changed according to the times.

In past there was religious restriction regarding education, only brahmans were allowed to read and write and according the rules by Manu the shudras would have lead pour in their ears if the tempt to learn, reading or writing. Whole India remained illterate due to many religious rules..

Do you think all it is okay to have superiority by birth as practices by Hindus for generations. Are people really are born Brahmins by birth and should be honored and shurdras shunned and abused.

Do potatoes and onions grow in different soil...Is soil in which onions grow is polluted, if not than how can the kitchen be polluted...common sense and humility should prevail.

Human right charter, which gives same right to all, is far superior than religious rules.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: pesi11



i totally disagree with u...and disagree with ppl who r saying u should follow their rules if u r in their house... here gandhi's eat vegeterian n everybody saying hetal should follow them..wat if gandhi's eats only NV and hetal/karan should eat NV if they r vegeterians? ppl can eat vegetrian though they r Non vegetrians ...wat abt ppl who r vegetrians ..can they force them to eat NV just becoz it is their house rule to cook NV daily n eat the same? bukwas...totally ridiculous n logic less.. wat d hell they r showing ...n I pity ppl who r just expressing their views for the sake of characters which they like or dislike... one should always respect others feelings... if they wants to eat something which others dont like they should allow them n hetal didnt ask them cook or eat wat she prepares...someone can adjust the place or any other thing..but for food no one can adjust ... If anybody comes to ask n me to eat which i dont like i vl never... And vl like never eat if they dont prepare it properly...I would prefer to stay hungry rather eating which i dont like and would glad to cook something which i like...

If it is for one day or two days can adjust ...like if i go to somebody's place and have lunch/dinner ..fine... If i am staying over thr can never ever able to do that..
if u r not troubling them making those ppl to eat which they dont like that is different... wat a big deal if they cook it on their own... my self a non vegeterian and my roomie is a vegeterian ..
believe me she dont even touch the dishwasher scrub if i use it for cleaning non vegeterian vessels...at the same i respects her feelings and keep the things away from her ...
we r in 21st century not living in 1900's ...all i say to ppl who r against this cooking funda is'
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..GROW UP FRIENDS... May god bless and fill ur thoughts with some maturity


Thank you for raising your voice against phony purity and rules..

These kind of rules waste human beings time and gives them the solace of being very good and pure, and this releases them from being really pure and decent...keeping kitchen clean by shunning the vegetables and human beings if very easy than being a good kind and just human being. Therefore most people resort to mere rituals to feel good while doing no good in real life.


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Posted: 13 years ago
#54
Point of the matter - it's upto individuals on what they believe and what not. We have no right to judge why certain people regard garlic/onion bad. It's what a person believes and although as humans we can question it, that doesn't give us a right to condemn it. It's same with the people who eat meat but don't touch beef cos it's holy, we don't find this questionable? We don't say oh you eat all other meats then why not this one? It's also next to all other meats in supermarkets?

This argument can go on and on, end of the day it comes down to respect. Respect other people's beliefs and expect the the same. Not everyone finds whatever we believe in right so we don't have to find just the right in everything - somethings no matter how better explained just don't make sense, and that doesn't mean they're wrong.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@April2007

No offense but every time it's said "these rules are stupid" you're insulting someone's belief. You have the right to your own opinion and belief but please stop degrading others just because you believe that what they believe in is stupid...

And "westerners - this or that" ... each and every single time you say westerners, do you know what you're doing? 1. Generalizing and 2. Being stereotypical
And that weakens your arguments. (No offense) Not every single person who lives outside of the country they took birth in, forgets about their beliefs and faith. To some extent one must understand that because for example India isn't the same as America in terms of simple things like... ghee diya's lighting all morning and night which is hard to do if everyone in the family is working as we cannot leave the lit jyot unattended whereas in India maybe someone is home always so we can. You see, it's clear that circumstances bend rituals. And rituals come from our ancestors. Not all rituals have explanations, they are simply passed down from generation to generation. It's up to us if we chose to follow them or not. And the ghee diya is also a stereotype, because anyone can be home in USA or India and any other country, but it's the simplest thing I could give you an example about.

The Gandhi family has beliefs and traditions they follow. Don't mix belief up with tradition. You don't agree with their traditions, but you shouldn't say it's wrong for them to believe in what they do. That is simply mere ignorance. Challenge everything, there's nothing wrong in questioning, but making statements as such as you are making, that's wrong. You have no right to mock anyone's faith nor call it an old way of thinking. The beautiful thing about Hinduism is that it's a way of life, not a religion and that is why it's called Sanatan Dharma...There are no written in stone rules, each person can bend them to their convenience. There is no right and wrong; provided your intentions are pure. And that is why it's more about spirituality than being religious, it's more about the soul than the body. And, with that, no one is forgetting real spiritualism. Yes, spirituality is a vast and complex discussion, and there are no right's or wrong's, but when the Gita itself quotes about types of food, you cannot say it's stupid to follow such things. Think about it...how would you feel if your belief was mocked at? Not good right?

Also, I want to add that onion and garlic are included in the non vegetarian items in Hinduism. That is why Baa reacted the way she did...

And being religious is not narrow mindedness. I find it really amusing you say that to be honest. That's like saying "If you believe in God, you are dumb."

Anyway, I just wanted to clear up these things. I firmly believe that your points are coming from a generalized perspective, and that does not pertain to the specific situation at hand, and leads to ignorance...so I kindly request you to stop degrading other people's belief's.

I don't really expect any response. Not trying to attack or anything either but I feel you're personally attacking the belief of others and it's getting out of hand.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@April2007

No offense but every time it's said "these rules are stupid" you're insulting someone's belief. You have the right to your own opinion and belief but please stop degrading others just because you believe that what they believe in is stupid...

I eat onion to say onion pollutes kitchen is offensive to me, to me it makes on sense to call onions and garlic unclean.

And "westerners - this or that" ... each and every single time you say westerners, do you know what you're doing? 1. Generalizing and 2. Being stereotypical
And that weakens your arguments. (No offense) Not every single person who lives outside of the country they took birth in, forgets about their beliefs and faith. To some extent one must understand that because for example India isn't the same as America in terms of simple things like... ghee diya's lighting all morning and night which is hard to do if everyone in the family is working as we cannot leave the lit jyot unattended whereas in India maybe someone is home always so we can. You see, it's clear that circumstances bend rituals. And rituals come from our ancestors. Not all rituals have explanations, they are simply passed down from generation to generation. It's up to us if we chose to follow them or not. And the ghee diya is also a stereotype, because anyone can be home in USA or India and any other country, but it's the simplest thing I could give you an example about.

I am not comparing west or east, all I am saying is that the pure vegetarian Indians have no problem in shopping in super markets which sell vegetables and meat side by side

The Gandhi family has beliefs and traditions they follow. Don't mix belief up with tradition. You don't agree with their traditions, but you shouldn't say it's wrong for them to believe in what they do. That is simply mere ignorance. Challenge everything, there's nothing wrong in questioning, but making statements as such as you are making, that's wrong. You have no right to mock anyone's faith nor call it an old way of thinking. The beautiful thing about Hinduism is that it's a way of life, not a religion and that is why it's called Sanatan Dharma...There are no written in stone rules, each person can bend them to their convenience. There is no right and wrong; provided your intentions are pure. And that is why it's more about spirituality than being religious, it's more about the soul than the body. And, with that, no one is forgetting real spiritualism. Yes, spirituality is a vast and complex discussion, and there are no right's or wrong's, but when the Gita itself quotes about types of food, you cannot say it's stupid to follow such things. Think about it...how would you feel if your belief was mocked at? Not good right?

Everybody thinks their religion is beautiful, just a reality check you should ask lower caste and untouchable how beautiful they find their way of life. Democracy is freeing them from shackels of bondage


Also, I want to add that onion and garlic are included in the non vegetarian items in Hinduism. That is why Baa reacted the way she did...

And being religious is not narrow mindedness. I find it really amusing you say that to be honest. That's like saying "If you believe in God, you are dumb."

Anyway, I just wanted to clear up these things. I firmly believe that your points are coming from a generalized perspective, and that does not pertain to the specific situation at hand, and leads to ignorance...so I kindly request you to stop degrading other people's belief's.

I don't really expect any response. Not trying to attack or anything either but I feel you're personally attacking the belief of others and it's getting out of hand.

Thanks for clearing up but I have right to respond I never said if you believe in God you are dumb..but if you believe that one vegetable by cooking onion (which have lots of health benefits so has garlic, that is pretty dumb, not you are dumb)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fantasy_K

Point of the matter - it's upto individuals on what they believe and what not. We have no right to judge why certain people regard garlic/onion bad. It's what a person believes and although as humans we can question it, that doesn't give us a right to condemn it. It's same with the people who eat meat but don't touch beef cos it's holy, we don't find this questionable? We don't say oh you eat all other meats then why not this one? It's also next to all other meats in supermarkets?

This argument can go on and on, end of the day it comes down to respect. Respect other people's beliefs and expect the the same. Not everyone finds whatever we believe in right so we don't have to find just the right in everything - somethings no matter how better explained just don't make sense, and that doesn't mean they're wrong.


I am just questioning it...in the same I question western and middle eastern religious beliefs.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: April2007


All religions are man made and should be improved and changed according to the times.

In past there was religious restriction regarding education, only brahmans were allowed to read and write and according the rules by Manu the shudras would have lead pour in their ears if the tempt to learn, reading or writing. Whole India remained illterate due to many religious rules..

Do you think all it is okay to have superiority by birth as practices by Hindus for generations. Are people really are born Brahmins by birth and should be honored and shurdras shunned and abused.

Do potatoes and onions grow in different soil...Is soil in which onions grow is polluted, if not than how can the kitchen be polluted...common sense and humility should prevail.

Human right charter, which gives same right to all, is far superior than religious rules.

I don;t think all religions are man made. I just feel that if someone is following a religion and has a certain food restriction or for that matter anything else there is a reaosn to it. Just changing it and improvising it overtime only reflects how much belief you actually have on the things that you claim to believe. I am not hindu therefore i'm not entirely sure how teh caste system works. I will certainly say that if through religious restrictions people are not treated equally then there must be something wrong.


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Posted: 13 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: April2007



Just want to say, most people have misconceptions about their religion and if they only knew more then... 😳

Also, you have every right to respond, I just didn't expect one. You have the right to say anything you wish, but I truly felt like your attacking Hinduism and different beliefs. So, I just wanted to let you know that's not a right thing to do.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: April2007


I am just questioning it...in the same I question western and middle eastern religious beliefs.


Didn't you just say you weren't questioning east and west?😛

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