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Posted: 13 years ago
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Another action-packed episode following the last one. Hot on the heels of her revealing she knows the truth about Abhimanyu, a silent bond has been forged between Pratigya and him because of the secret they now share. Well, that the three of them share. And I am glad, because someone in that house has to keep the peace and it certainly isn't going to be most of the Thakurs.

Abhimanyu is completely right. He could have quickly made a case for himself versus SS and won it in the courts. If he didn't, it was because he wanted SS to admit his actions in front of everyone without being forced by people. It would have been humbling but too easy. When SS chooses to do it himself, and methinks he will, it will be of his own free will and his inner acceptance of his other son. It is Abhimanyu's birthright to be treated as a human being. The scene with Arushi calling Krishna was so nice, and so kind of him to loan her his cooks for a day along with Chandu. We never get to see Chandu anymore now that Krishna is married so this is a good chance. The kitchen scene where Kesar refuses to let Shakuntala cook there and then tries to tell off Pratigya was disgusting. Pratigya is the one who tried to save Kesar's unborn child and she did it at one point, then later she got Kesar treated by a doctor and made sure she had medical care. She was always there for her SIL, like a real sister and this is the thanks she gets. Kesar just acted really badly. Who looked after Samar when Kesar was away? Kesar is turning into a real Thakur and it isn't attractive.
The scene in the living room where Shakti loses it and tries to humiliate the servant is nothing new. He never shows any mercy on others. And for the lawyer to intervene, I would expect nothing less. It is so typical of the Thakur brothers to tie up Abhimanyu, who has more brains in his head than the two of them put together, and punish him for defending what is right. This is because neither one of them has the brains to argue with him and use their head so they have to use their fists instead. Did you see the glance between Pratigya and Abhimanyu? It was telling. Like "see what these people are like"? There is no man on earth who deserves to be beaten like that, and Abhimanyu did not do a thing to deserve it unless you count being born smarter than the family he has dared to oppose. SS defending him was the one thing I have seen him do right all year. Come on! The man is no less flesh and blood than the other three Thakur children. I can't believe Shakti calls himself a father, the man has absolutely no shame in his heart. Shakti Singh has never been on the receiving end of any of the garbage he dishes out to people, so I find it hard to sympathize with him on any level.
It was a tough call for me to make between Pratigya and SS, but the line of the episode went to SS when asked what he would do to the person who beats Abhimanyu and he said he would break the guy's hands. The look on his two sons' faces was priceless. When SS looks directly at his volatile elder son and tells him that if he hates others so much one day he will hate himself, I truly admired him for the first time. He spoke as a father.
Stars of the episode: Abhimanyu and SS.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well all i can say is Abhimanyu is poking his nose in TN family matters too much and i know that he spoke up today due to the injustice to the servant and he was right too as that was uncalled for!

But in previous episodes when he was interfering, that was too much as there was no point of doing that just to irritate the TN people who are a unaware of the truth bar SS and Pratigya.

Also there is no bond between P and ASY regarding the secret she knows of why he is doing all of this as she is also against him for playing these little games to get what he wants when he can just tell the truth out in the open and avoid this. And she will spill the beans to Krishna regards to ASY truth as she wont be able to keep it a secret for much long from her husband. This will have an impact on the fight and the outcome of it.

Regarding the Pratigya-Kesar thing, I understand ur point clearly but Pratz cant expect TN people's behavior to change towards ASY and his mother as they dont know the truth like she does. So without knowing the truth, their behavior towards ASY and his mum are justifiable as they think outsiders have come and are forcefully staying in their home. So until truth comes out, dont expect any change in TN attitude towards ASY and his mum.

The rest of ur post I agree with tho!😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mo710

Well all i can say is Abhimanyu is poking his nose in TN family matters too much and i know that he spoke up today due to the injustice to the servant and he was right too as that was uncalled for!


But in previous episodes when he was interfering, that was too much as there was no point of doing that just to irritate the TN people who are a unaware of the truth bar SS and Pratigya.

Also there is no bond between P and ASY regarding the secret she knows of why he is doing all of this as she is also against him for playing these little games to get what he wants when he can just tell the truth out in the open and avoid this. And she will spill the beans to Krishna regards to ASY truth as she wont be able to keep it a secret for much long from her husband. This will have an impact on the fight and the outcome of it.

Regarding the Pratigya-Kesar thing, I understand ur point clearly but Pratz cant expect TN people's behavior to change towards ASY and his mother as they dont know the truth like she does. So without knowing the truth, their behavior towards ASY and his mum are justifiable as they think outsiders have come and are forcefully staying in their home. So until truth comes out, dont expect any change in TN attitude towards ASY and his mum.

The rest of ur post I agree with tho!😃

I agree that Pratigya does not approve of Abhimanyu's playing games in the Niwas and not confessing the truth, but she clearly respects him enough not to tell everyone his secret either. Now that Pratigya has found out, it has become her secret as well. She could have told everyone at the maika what she learned, but she didn't out of courtesy. Just because Pratigya does not support Abhimanyu's secretiveness regarding his life, does not mean that she supports the Thakurs' callous behavior towards him. Even if the truth comes out, and we all know it will, I don't expect any change in attitude from Shakti or anyone towards Abhimanyu and his mother. I expect they will get all the more defensive about their precious house and the fortune that SS is worth. They will defend all of it to their very last breath and say that SS never married Shakuntala and therefore she and her son have no right to SS's name or property. It is only SS that can open his mouth and teach them that yes, his other child deserves equal rights as much as they do.
Yes I know, outsiders have come and forcefully stayed in their home. But do you think in the same situation that Professor Saxena and his family would act the same way? Education makes a big difference here and because the Thakurs have none, they relate to outsiders through violence. Reason has no meaning for them unless it is supported by physical force. Yes, Abhimanyu forced his way in but SS allowed him. If SS has chosen to let them stay in a room at the haveli, can they at least respect their father's decision if not the stranger who is there? Abhimanyu is an unwanted guest, I will give you that. But he isn't a violent thug or unlawful intruder, he is there with his mother by permission of the haveli's owner. And one last thing, if Shakti Singh takes matters in his own hands and tries to end Abhimanyu's life secretly, then he is no better than a common thug. It also means that he has no regard for his father's wishes. Just because noone would find out about it or connect it with him does not make it any less ethical. I rest my case.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Another great string of arguments, this one. This is a beautiful review of the episode, I must say. It is obvious from P's behaviour that she has been keeping ASY in high esteem right from the time she knew about his professional skills ... and now the revelation of truth abt ASY must hv created another soft corner for the man in P's heart. Yeah, the glances that P n ASY exchanged in today's episode suggest that they r like minded individuals. It's a curse for educated n civilized people like ASY n P to be living with stubborn,uncultured n illiterate fools of TN. True, that KN is feeling jealous of ASY b'coz his bail buddhi is a piece of shit compared to the brilliance of ASY. It was disgusting to see that K was helping KN when he asked him to tie ASY to the pillar. K has a good heart but his brain is not any better than that of KN the pig. I loved SS yelling that he would break the hands of his stupid sons if they think of beating ASY again. Besides that I loved SS addressing ASY as 'wakeel ki dum'...that was funny n there was an unmistakable tenderness in his tone...SS is mellowing for sure.
What Saxenas would hv done to an uninvited guest like ASY is an interesting scenario. The answer is apparent...they would hv treated him with respect. I think CVs want to gv the message that education is necessary to tame a person's beastly instincts...but there may be a few exceptions e.g; Tanmay.
Hope u'll be writing such reviews on a regular basis.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: trina_one

The scene in the living room where Shakti loses it and tries to humiliate the servant is nothing new. He never shows any mercy on others. And for the lawyer to intervene, I would expect nothing less. It is so typical of the Thakur brothers to tie up Abhimanyu, who has more brains in his head than the two of them put together, and punish him for defending what is right. This is because neither one of them has the brains to argue with him and use their head so they have to use their fists instead. Did you see the glance between Pratigya and Abhimanyu? It was telling. Like "see what these people are like"? There is no man on earth who deserves to be beaten like that, and Abhimanyu did not do a thing to deserve it unless you count being born smarter than the family he has dared to oppose. SS defending him was the one thing I have seen him do right all year. Come on! The man is no less flesh and blood than the other three Thakur children. I can't believe Shakti calls himself a father, the man has absolutely no shame in his heart. Shakti Singh has never been on the receiving end of any of the garbage he dishes out to people, so I find it hard to sympathize with him on any level.

He don't deserve even this much???? I agree with the underline thing... but we shudn't forget what he tried to do with K even aftre he came to know the truth, who the reall murderer was... It was a shame tht he used the law to take revenge... if we look from tht POV... he derserve much more than this...Excuse me... please...In my POV, Kriya can even file a case against ASY for he went against law... but having this in mind...tht he is a criminal lawyer... Is he allowed to do anything on the name of law????
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: babithaj

<font color="#FF0000"><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">He don't deserve even this much???? I agree with the underline thing... but we shudn't forget what he tried to do with K even aftre he came to know the truth, who the reall murderer was... It was a shame tht he used the law to take revenge... if we look from tht POV... he derserve much more than this...Excuse me... please...In my POV, Kriya can even file a case against ASY for he went against law... but having this in mind...tht he is a criminal lawyer... Is he allowed to do anything on the name of law????</font></font>


Excuse me but ur viewpoint about ASY is highly distorted n biased. I agree that his intention to get Krishna convicted for Adarsh murder was morally wrong but he had reasons to be hostile to SS after going through so much insult in his life b'coz of SS. But as a lawyer nobody can question him why he fought a case against Krishna despite knowing he was innocent...b'coz being a famous lawyer he might hv not committed any technical error. See, this is a major problem with the way law is being practised that u cannot punish the lawyer for trying to save his client eventhough he is proven guilty. Had there been such a provision to punish the lawyers along with the convicts, our legal machinery would hv collapsed. Lolz.
Now, assume that ASY was wrong in convicting Krishna while he held a grudge against SS, what would u say about these acts of Krishna:
1. Krishna forcefully kidnapped the innocent Sunehri while the main culprit who kidnapped SS was Sunehri's father.
2. Krishna manhandled Pratigya's fiance and damaged his car eventhough Krishna knew he was innocent.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ssrbaqri


Excuse me but ur viewpoint about ASY is highly distorted n biased. I agree that his intention to get Krishna convicted for Adarsh murder was morally wrong but he had reasons to be hostile to SS after going through so much insult in his life b'coz of SS.But as a lawyer nobody can question him why he fought a case against Krishna despite knowing he was innocent...b'coz being a famous lawyer he might hv not committed any technical error. See, this is a major problem with the way law is being practised that u cannot punish the lawyer for trying to save his client eventhough he is proven guilty. Had there been such a provision to punish the lawyers along with the convicts, our legal machinery would hv collapsed. Lolz.
Now, assume that ASY was wrong in convicting Krishna while he held a grudge against SS, what would u say about these acts of Krishna:
1. Krishna forcefully kidnapped the innocent Sunehri while the main culprit who kidnapped SS was Sunehri's father.
2. Krishna manhandled Pratigya's fiance and damaged his car eventhough Krishna knew he was innocent.

Hello Mr.

ASY Is Right ASY's Right...What Right?He Knew That K Is Innocent But Tried To Destroy K Life.Then What Is The Difference Between KN&ASY?KN Tried To Buried His Wife Alive&ASY Tried To Send An Innocent Behind Bars For Lifetime.Difference?

ASY Repeating That He&His Mom Wants Their Right.So What About Amma?If SS Accept Shakuntala As His Wife,Amma Can File A Strong Case Against Them...ASY Will Not Be Able To Save His Mom&Dad.It's Illegal.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -aHnAf-

Hello Mr.

ASY Is Right ASY's Right...What Right?He Knew That K Is Innocent But Tried To Destroy K Life.Then What Is The Difference Between KN&ASY?KN Tried To Buried His Wife Alive&ASY Tried To Send An Innocent Behind Bars For Lifetime.Difference?

ASY Repeating That He&His Mom Wants Their Right.So What About Amma?If SS Accept Shakuntala As His Wife,Amma Can File A Strong Case Against Them...ASY Will Not Be Able To Save His Mom&Dad.It's Illegal.



frst sm1 take his mom's interview...

1))if ss hd forced himself,y she respect him??😡
2))if relation vs mutual,vere vs her dignity to affair a married man??nd now y she here??😡
3)) she also used her yadav husband..😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: teeena


1))if ss hd forced himself,y she respect him??😡
2))if relation vs mutual,vere vs her dignity to affair a married man??nd now y she here??😡
3)) she also used her yadav husband..😕


👏👏👏 great points teeena...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ssrbaqri


Excuse me but ur viewpoint about ASY is highly distorted n biased. I agree that his intention to get Krishna convicted for Adarsh murder was morally wrong but he had reasons to be hostile to SS after going through so much insult in his life b'coz of SS. But as a lawyer nobody can question him why he fought a case against Krishna despite knowing he was innocent...b'coz being a famous lawyer he might hv not committed any technical error. See, this is a major problem with the way law is being practised that u cannot punish the lawyer for trying to save his client eventhough he is proven guilty. Had there been such a provision to punish the lawyers along with the convicts, our legal machinery would hv collapsed. Lolz.
Now, assume that ASY was wrong in convicting Krishna while he held a grudge against SS, what would u say about these acts of Krishna:
1. Krishna forcefully kidnapped the innocent Sunehri while the main culprit who kidnapped SS was Sunehri's father.
2. Krishna manhandled Pratigya's fiance and damaged his car eventhough Krishna knew he was innocent.

So does tat mean with lawyer coat n designation he can do anytin, n Destroy innocent lives, Then better he don't talk abt Justice, Injustice... n Krish never xpected anytin frm Sunehri r Nitin, here ASY xpectin Krish to call him Bhai, is it makin any sense? He the same who wanted n tried hard Krish to be prisond 4 life for nothing he has done, now how could he? No point..!! Krish never says abt Justice injustice like ASY without knowin meaning of those things... Krish alwayz n alwayz corrects his mistakes, the next moment He realizes...
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