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Posted: 14 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Rahm

NO human being is free of flaws.

1. "Tumko kaise dikhai na diya ke hum hum tumse kitna pyaar karte hain."

2. "Tumne jo kiya humri khushi ke kilaaf kiya. Humne tumri khushi mein apne khushi doondhi. Tumko hamesha sahi samjha.."

Fantastic, beautiful post. if this post was two pages long i would still have read every bit of it.
the above quotes just bought tears to my eyes, with the way you gave the explanation.
beautiful really is. well done rahm.
when i seen the title i thought of no - not another krishna bashing thread. but am glad i read this and it was just the opposite.
The only one thing i think baba needs to change is the way he manhandles her some times. A loving husband should not lift his hand on his wife. because i always believe if a man hits u once then it will happen again regardless. because i have a friend and her husband loves her to bits - infact his whole life was ruined for this girl. But he kept hitting her. after 17 years of loving this guy she is now fed up and left him.
so i really wish men do not touch their wives in that way.
My husband always says a man should never hit a woman - if he's gonna raise a fist then do it on a man only. I totally agree with that.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapbubble



Rahm,
Pratigya does see his pain. Ever since she has given in to his love, she has done nothing but tiptoe around his insecurities, his sense of inadequacy, his ego, his hurt, his feelings. On some crucial occasions she has not been able to submerge her own CONSCIENCE, but she has submerged everything else - she has submerged her own feelings, her ego, her own hurt, her own rights to make him feel ok.

But that is the problem - Krishna is an intelligent sensitive man who cannot tolerate being appeased or humoured. He is able to see that she is making allowances for his ego - once he called her offer of friendship a 'jhunjhuna' - a rattle given to appease a child. He cannot be pleased by these jhunjhunas. He is being treated tactfully - and he HATES it.
He knows his wife is trying to come down to his level, trying to appease him when in fact, he should be rising to hers. He cannot demand her respect, her sensitivity - in turn he should become more secure, know his own mind, his own values. His lack of education does not bother her as much as it bothers him. Her family's respect is for him as a person not for his status as SS's son.

Pratigya IS a lucky girl for one reason and one reason alone - she has a man who loves her immensely, whom she loves immensely. Whether that man can keep her happy, safe, contented or whether he will allow his own inner devils or lack of courage to ruin their relationship is another matter.
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Very aptly explained Bubble 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks Rahm for this fantastic post! I needed to hear this today (& perhaps everyday) 😊
Despite all of their differences, they are fundamentally the same.
Regardless of thier backgrounds, cultures, and beliefs, both want to feel understood and loved. Though they know they are imperfect spl krishna but he just want to feel safe, understood and accepted to be who he is regardless.Is he expecting too much? he always share and expect her to be his supportive listener,journal always enjoyed sitting quietly with her and feels the sensations of her in his body and always tried to be her support. I think he has two choices right now either to accept conditions as they exist, or accept responsibility to change them and thats what he is trying to do.If krishna has accepted that fact and started his lovey dovey act then everyone would have definetely think that oh why he is falling down so much that he can accept this insult, how can he tolerated that not only him but his entire family was disrespected,loh where is the old krishna and why all over again he is giving up for prats lipstcik and what not but when he took a stand this time then whats the problem.I know his sudden reaction was harsh but look from his lens.He was more gussa with the fact that how can prats accepted and tolerated that insult for him and his family when he can never ever do the same for her or her loved ones? If he wont realize this fact now then this is going to be never-ending stream.Regardless of what I cannot ignore the fact how he always honor and stand against his own family for her.Today he is aggravated with the circumstances but i think he is also willing to do something to change them for better
.Otherwise he would have not allowed Prats to go to Mathurs house or may be not even his parents after the engagement incident. I know his way of doing things are different but at the end of the day his love for prats is incredibly supreme and he lives for her and will die for her.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo


Rahm beautifully written. I had given up on sympathising with Krishna any more because of how he gave up everytime pratigya battered her eye-lids. Infact I just wrote on carisma's thread how he tends to forgive people easily and that is his basic nature. But those lines you have written above have brought back symapathy for him even if it is temperorily. I remember once he told the Sucksena when he got stabbed by Angad: 'whatever you do for this family it is not enough' which is so true.The reality is they will never see Krishna as an eligible damad for their daughter and pratigya is reaping what she has sown it is a different case she doesn't realise that. Disrespect your husband infront of everyone then as result be a witness to people insulting him



Don't give up on Krishna.

He's got an ego and for him to tell Pratigya how he really feels is extremely difficult for him. Baba always has this air to him and I feel that he's scared to open up to Pratigya. I think that he's afraid she'll see more clearly how mismatched they are. He's insecure about his love because he got it after a lot of drama and what not and then he sees how different the Saxes treat Aman and him. Prats comes from that family so he probably thinks that she holds the same view as they do.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: laks76

Come on everybody says that for krishna from day one. then u look at the background where pratigya has come from. try to understand her point of view. in her house nobody even talk in high voice. leave that they some thing and do something. like eveyrbody says look at her back ground also. she led a very simple life. now she is into this daily dramas sudden anger viloence around her, mother in law pouring hot milk on hand. it is something very drastic and completely strange for her. now tell how will she react. so if krishna can act like this since he is brought up in such a background how abt her. I am happy still she acts as a normal human being and is able to differenciate between things going around her. i am just pointing out the fact if we are telling it for one we have to see the same for the other also. it is like the 2 sides of the coin.i like both of them. both of them have flaws but still they love each other. sometimes krishna is right and he is really a street smart. pratigya has book knowledge but when it comes to implementing she left behind. She doesn't stick very much to what she says. but circumstanes also forces her.



Of course I totally understand where Prats is coming from. I think most, if not all, of us understand where Prats is coming from because we all come from respectable families. That wasn't my point. When Prats is being disrespected in any way by Krishna's family and he knows of it, he always takes steps to correct it. He always fights for her. So the other side of the coin is fine, yaar. I want to see Prats taking a stand for Krishna now.

The Thakurs weren't invited to the wedding, fine, but Prats should have said something to her family. To save one rishta (the Mathurs have so many issues--number one being Jai who nearly killed Adarsh), they are creating problems in her EXISTING marriage. The Saxes don't need to respect the Thakurs, but they need to make sure that their decisions aren't going to affect their daughter's marriage.

Krishna deserves to be respected by the Saxes. He has done enough to prove that he's worthy of it and yet they just take him for granted. I just want to see Prats standing up for him, that's all.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: td_dhoom

Thanks Rahm for this fantastic post! I needed to hear this today (& perhaps everyday) 😊
Despite all of their differences, they are fundamentally the same.
Regardless of thier backgrounds, cultures, and beliefs, both want to feel understood and loved. Though they know they are imperfect spl krishna but he just want to feel safe, understood and accepted to be who he is regardless.Is he expecting too much? he always share and expect her to be his supportive listener,journal always enjoyed sitting quietly with her and feels the sensations of her in his body and always tried to be her support. I think he has two choices right now either to accept conditions as they exist, or accept responsibility to change them and thats what he is trying to do.If krishna has accepted that fact and started his lovey dovey act then everyone would have definetely think that oh why he is falling down so much that he can accept this insult, how can he tolerated that not only him but his entire family was disrespected,loh where is the old krishna and why all over again he is giving up for prats lipstcik and what not but when he took a stand this time then whats the problem.I know his sudden reaction was harsh but look from his lens.He was more gussa with the fact that how can prats accepted and tolerated that insult for him and his family when he can never ever do the same for her or her loved ones? If he wont realize this fact now then this is going to be never-ending stream.Regardless of what I cannot ignore the fact how he always honor and stand against his own family for her.Today he is aggravated with the circumstances but i think he is also willing to do something to change them for better
.Otherwise he would have not allowed Prats to go to Mathurs house or may be not even his parents after the engagement incident. I know his way of doing things are different but at the end of the day his love for prats is incredibly supreme and he lives for her and will die for her.



Lets hope what you said is true, But by torturing her like this, he may soon lose the one person whose love is beyond and above the grave circumstances that she is suffering for his sake only without ever rubbing it on his nose.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapbubble



Rahm,
Pratigya does see his pain. Ever since she has given in to his love, she has done nothing but tiptoe around his insecurities, his sense of inadequacy, his ego, his hurt, his feelings. On some crucial occasions she has not been able to submerge her own CONSCIENCE, but she has submerged everything else - she has submerged her own feelings, her ego, her own hurt, her own rights to make him feel ok.

But that is the problem - Krishna is an intelligent sensitive man who cannot tolerate being appeased or humoured. He is able to see that she is making allowances for his ego - once he called her offer of friendship a 'jhunjhuna' - a rattle given to appease a child. He cannot be pleased by these jhunjhunas. He is being treated tactfully - and he HATES it.
He knows his wife is trying to come down to his level, trying to appease him when in fact, he should be rising to hers. He cannot demand her respect, her sensitivity - in turn he should become more secure, know his own mind, his own values. His lack of education does not bother her as much as it bothers him. Her family's respect is for him as a person not for his status as SS's son.

Pratigya IS a lucky girl for one reason and one reason alone - she has a man who loves her immensely, whom she loves immensely. Whether that man can keep her happy, safe, contented or whether he will allow his own inner devils or lack of courage to ruin their relationship is another matter.
Bubble




I don't think Prats truly sees his pain, Bubble. If she did, she would have said something to her family. Krishna is seen as nobody even though he tries hard to be somebody for the Saxes. As for Pratigya submerging her feelings and whatnot, Krishna has done the same in the past and even today. If you read quote 2, he says that she's done things against him and yet he's always tried to find his happiness within hers. If her family cannot have any ounce of respect for him then they at least need to treat him as the damandh of the house because like it or not he is Pratigya's husband.

He called the friendship a jhunjhuna because he found out that Angad was troubling the Saxes and Prats slapped him and reported him to the police. Prats didn't tell him any of this and that is why he was angry. He thought that she was just using the name friendship to shut him up, but when it came down to it, she didn't really think of him as a friend or anything otherwise she would have shared her problems with him.

As for him rising up to her level, I think that's the issue. He doesn't know how to rise up to her level. Going back to school at his age is probably weird to him. He can't exactly get a job without an education so he feels frustrated and backed into a corner.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dyehard



What double standards, Hami? It is very clear that they LIKE the Mathurs and DISLIKE the Thakurs. It is their prerogative. How can any one say, "You must like me, you must respect me?" Is that not childish? How can you force respect at gun-point? How can P demand her family to respect SS when she herself does not! And K is not willing to separate himself from SS. If he wants to be his son, ok, does credit to his sense of loyalty👏, but then he can;t expect others to respect him for siding with criminals, na? It is their wish what stance they take.
That is exactly the Point the CVs are trying to make! K and komal think that just because their father has money and guns and everyone is afraid of him it will naturally earn him respect, but they are wrong! All this only earns fear, and when a person comes along who does not fear this power, then they are not able to handle the blow to their ego. It is very sad that K also has this mentality. 😭



Dye

It is double standards. Jai was let go for nearly killing Adarsh and he had no remorse for it whatsoever. THAT is double standards especially by Prof because he goes on and on about justice and truth and then he conveniently forgot all that for one rishta. 🤢

You keep forgetting, Krishna does not know that SS is a criminal! The stuff that SS does at home is what he grew up with. It's not Krishna knows the extent of what SS does. Krishna has been raised to believe that education is worthless and status/money/power is everything that brings respect which is why Komal and Krishna expect people to respect their father because most people out of fear do. Plus, SS is their father. Any child naturally wants their father to be respected.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: carisma2

Fantastic, beautiful post. if this post was two pages long i would still have read every bit of it.
the above quotes just bought tears to my eyes, with the way you gave the explanation.
beautiful really is. well done rahm.
when i seen the title i thought of no - not another krishna bashing thread. but am glad i read this and it was just the opposite.
The only one thing i think baba needs to change is the way he manhandles her some times. A loving husband should not lift his hand on his wife. because i always believe if a man hits u once then it will happen again regardless. because i have a friend and her husband loves her to bits - infact his whole life was ruined for this girl. But he kept hitting her. after 17 years of loving this guy she is now fed up and left him.
so i really wish men do not touch their wives in that way.
My husband always says a man should never hit a woman - if he's gonna raise a fist then do it on a man only. I totally agree with that.



Oh definitely. I truly dislike the way he manhandles her and Prats needs to bring up this issue at some point and make him understand that that is NOT okay.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: td_dhoom

Thanks Rahm for this fantastic post! I needed to hear this today (& perhaps everyday) 😊
Despite all of their differences, they are fundamentally the same.
Regardless of thier backgrounds, cultures, and beliefs, both want to feel understood and loved. Though they know they are imperfect spl krishna but he just want to feel safe, understood and accepted to be who he is regardless.Is he expecting too much? he always share and expect her to be his supportive listener,journal always enjoyed sitting quietly with her and feels the sensations of her in his body and always tried to be her support. I think he has two choices right now either to accept conditions as they exist, or accept responsibility to change them and thats what he is trying to do.If krishna has accepted that fact and started his lovey dovey act then everyone would have definetely think that oh why he is falling down so much that he can accept this insult, how can he tolerated that not only him but his entire family was disrespected,loh where is the old krishna and why all over again he is giving up for prats lipstcik and what not but when he took a stand this time then whats the problem.I know his sudden reaction was harsh but look from his lens.He was more gussa with the fact that how can prats accepted and tolerated that insult for him and his family when he can never ever do the same for her or her loved ones? If he wont realize this fact now then this is going to be never-ending stream.Regardless of what I cannot ignore the fact how he always honor and stand against his own family for her.Today he is aggravated with the circumstances but i think he is also willing to do something to change them for better
.Otherwise he would have not allowed Prats to go to Mathurs house or may be not even his parents after the engagement incident. I know his way of doing things are different but at the end of the day his love for prats is incredibly supreme and he lives for her and will die for her.



@ bold: Bang on! Krishna would NEVER EVER tolerate disrespect for Prats nor her loved ones. When he found out Angad was teasing Arushi, he went and kicked Angad's rear end. He did what he thought would help and for Prats not to stand up for him (forget family) must really hurt him. He fights with all his family members for her all the time. He needs that support from her.

I think Krishna is not only angry but frustrated. How can he match Prats? I think that question is haunting him.

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