Saving life out of humanity

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Posted: 15 years ago
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I found the convo. between Krishna and Prats today rather interesting. When he lashed out at her to stop stepping up to be his mother and treat him like a kid, Prats was upset. She asked him why he saved her life if he thought he was unhappy with her. She said he did it out of humanity and would have saved HER ANGADWA as well out of humanity. He insisted it was the truth.

Ganti Dadi gestured to him that it was Prats who saved him and brought him back to life. Amma made it a point to state that Prats sure was responsible for bringing him back to life but she was also responsible for it. So, If Krishna claimed to save her life out of humanity, does that mean he also think Prats only brought him back to life out of humanity? He always felt she put the needs of other poeple first and did much for their happiness.

So his assumption is that there is no way she could have brought him back to life other than out a sense of doing the right thing and love was no way a part of it? Is that what is making him crazy bec' he thinks after every thing that happened between them recently she is only caring for him out of a sense of duty and responsibility and love wasn't ever going to be the reason for her behavior towards him now?.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Is she doing all these out of sense of duty?
On the outlook, it would seiusly appear so that she is doing all this out of gratitude...he also feels the same. Its Pratigya's cut out taks to prove that she is doing it out of love now. When he hears this from her..may be he will calm down...but b4 that he must also be convunced that his wife is pure as gold...
whos gonna do that? and how?
he is adamant not listening to his wife..so who is going to do that?
Is it thru her patience and endurance?? she has endured so much yday itself after hearing harsh words from Krishna itself....
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I was going to start a topic but I'll just post mythoughts in this one. Krishna is acting totally out of line. He asks her how he can believe her that Angad didn't touch her after being with her for one night...........well his love for her should be unconditional...that's what he always said it was. He said he loves her more than anything..that nothing could make his love decrease for her. She is his life......so now what happened. All of a sudden he finds out that his wife was kidnapped and instead of talking ot her like any normal educated person would do and find otu the reasson why she was afraid to tell him he accuses her and makes her feeel like crap. His love was a joke from the beginning and it still is a joke. I can definitely see how much he is hurting inside, buts its not becuase PRatigya doesn't love him that he's hurting its because he thinks that his wife is tainted in some way.
Now I come from a society that doesn't really hold that much weight on being a virgin in the marriage bed....but seriously Krishna is getting out of control with this. Pratigya is telling him the truth, his father in law is telling him the truth, and still he is unwilling to see it.
I mean if someone like Komal, who I think is even more dense than Krishna (although I think I've changed my mind about that lately) , if even she can trust Pratigya and see Adarsh's point of view that nothign happened between Pratigya and Angad then how come Krishna can't believe her. She told him so many times why she didn't tell him right away and what her misunderstanding was. He didn't even bother asking her anything about that......just continues to blame it on Pratigya...............
The only way he really is going ot be able to see how wrong he is is when Pratigya and him actually have their Suhaag Raat....then he will realize how wrong he was and he'll know how truthful Pratigya actually was, but if I was Pratigya there is no way I would let my husband touch me if I knew he thought I was unpure and not worthy enough of his affection.
Krishna once again has disappointed me in his lack of understanding when it comes to Pratigya and his lack of love for her....because true love will past any hurdle and obstacle that comes in the way. Not pointing a gun at it and thinking you may kill the love of your life..that's not love that's Lust...IMO what Krishna is really upset about is he didn't get to touch Pratigya first....at least in his mind and he obsessive love for her is going through a painful thought thinking of that....even though it isn't true.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI

I found the convo. between Krishna and Prats today rather interesting. When he lashed out at her to stop stepping up to be his mother and treat him like a kid, Prats was upset. She asked him why he saved her life if he thought he was unhappy with her. She said he did it out of humanity and would have saved HER ANGADWA as well out of humanity. He insisted it was the truth.

Ganti Dadi gestured to him that it was Prats who saved him and brought him back to life. Amma made it a point to state that Prats sure was responsible for bringing him back to life but she was also responsible for it. So, If Krishna claimed to save her life out of humanity, does that mean he also think Prats only brought him back to life out of humanity? He always felt he put the needs of other poeple first and did much for their happiness.

So his assumption is that there is no way she could have brought him back to life other than out a sense of doing the right thing and love was no way a part of it? Is that what is making him crazy bec' he thinks after every thing that happened between them recently she is only caring for him out of a sense of duty and responsibility and love wasnever going to be the reason for her behavior towards him now?.


His patni told him a few days ago that the only reason she accepted his proposal was because she felt compelled to, she was helpless and thought that marrying him was the only way to save her family from badnaami. Her cold behaviour during all those months they have been married is something he can't forget either. Now, all this doesn't exactly scream love, no?
So i think it's not farfetched for krishna to think that she only saved him out of humanity. In the light of the sad truth behind his marriage and her actions afterward, it did seem like this is the only reason/explanation for her to do so. He can't believe yet that her sudden care is genuine. He is bound to think all her caring gestures are a result of her guilt of being responsible of his current state. She did misunderstood him and his love for her, accusing and punishing him for mistakes he was not even aware of.
I do believe krishna is convinved that prats doesn't love him. This is why he said "there is a huge difference between both situations......... there is a difference between you and me....." when she asked him if he would have not done the same if it was she who was sick. I take his comment as meaning there is a difference because he would have taken care of her out of his love for her while she has done it out of guilt and a sense of duty/responsibility.
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There is a misconception that one who loves their spouse will never ever say hurtful things to each other. Sure there are couples everywhere who coast through life without a single argument. It may work for them. But sometimes passion between a couple can also be expressed as aggressive talk about the silliest of stuff. It's a little tango dance between them that bonds them.😳

I took the time to rewatch y'day interaction between Krishna and Prats closely esp. Krishna's expression. A couple of times I saw a smug look at knowing he had evoked a deeper response from her, of hurt, of seeing her not crying but absorbing what he had to say. I even got the feeling he is tired of her goody two shoes step and dance. He wants to draw the sherni in her out. He knows she is capable of being in full form and fight back. He is gunning for a fight. He is pushing all the right buttons to see how far she would go and what would breakdown her walls. In the last few days she has confided in him that she felt everything had been snatched from her in that one moment and she didn't know until then what he meant to her. She hasn't elobarated, he was asleep by the time she got to the important part. He wants her to spell it all out bec' that is how he is, he wants to see her gutsy enough to express her feelings for him. We saw him looking into her eyes with a soul searching look.

Prats should tune into not talking to him about the things that tick him off. His family, esp. Arushi and Aman are sore points with him. He took a dig at them when he said why wouldn't they like him he is educated just like the rest of you.

After telling him she didn't know how important he was to her she starts the next day by treating him like a little child and he is confused. I interpret his lashing out at her his way of drawing her out to to tell him and fight back to show him he is her world. She is giving him little bits and pieces.

Y'day it was your happiness is most important to me. Notice he doesn't look at her in the face when she opens up and also after he lied about saving her out of humanity. He is hurting and he wants her to experience and understand his pain. It may not make sense or even be about what really matters but it often happens that a couple argues about irrelevant stuff when the underlying reason is way off base.

I guess when it comes to life Krishna is measuring her feelings for him in much the same way he expressed his feelings. When she hurt him he winced and licked his wounds but bounced back and fought through her barriers and showed her no matter what she said and how much he hurt when his anger dissipated he went back to loving her. He is not seeing that from Prats. She is patronizing him when he knows that she is also capable of fighting back. I get the feeling that he feels the need to see her fight for him. He was lying in that hospital bed and it was her fighting for him to come back to her that got him to return. He may want to see that from her do the same for their marriage. Remember he told Amma "hum humesha Prats ko humara patni banake rakhenge". He wants to see that she will fight for him as well.

Ok, I'm rambling but it's early in the morning so. hope you get the point...........😃
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI

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So his assumption is that there is no way she could have brought him back to life other than out a sense of doing the right thing and love was no way a part of it? Is that what is making him crazy bec' he thinks after every thing that happened between them recently she is only caring for him out of a sense of duty and responsibility and love wasn't ever going to be the reason for her behavior towards him now?.

Yes. In a nutshell he is thinking she is doing all out of gratitude and duty. She told him she had no choice but to marry him. So he wants to know why is she still hanging around? what is she doing around him? he has his amma and bhabi to cook for and look after him. What he needs is his wife. But she doesn't seem to get that. Yet.
Everything he said yesterday, is all pointing to his longing to hear that she is doing all this because she loves him. But so far our girl is pretty dense though there is a certain awareness in her eyes. Give it a few more days, then her dam will break and out the flood will come.
So he will continue pushing, prodding and pricking till he knows for sure why is she still with him.
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Originally posted by: Dreamygal301

Yes. In a nutshell he is thinking she is doing all out of gratitude and duty. She told him she had no choice but to marry him. So he wants to know why is she still hanging around? what is she doing around him? he has his amma and bhabi to cook for and look after him. What he needs is his wife. But she doesn't seem to get that. Yet.
Everything he said yesterday, is all pointing to his longing to hear that she is doing all this because she loves him. But so far our girl is pretty dense though there is a certain awareness in her eyes. Give it a few more days, then her dam will break and out the flood will come.
So he will continue pushing, prodding and pricking till he knows for sure why is she still with him.



My favorite part of their dance😳. I wrote a lengthy response to your post on Hope's thread but it didn't make it, it's probably floating in web's solar system somewhere. I wished I had saved it.

I rewatced y'day episode and saw what he was doing when he was waiting for her reaction after his barbed statements. He is poking the sherni with a stick but she is behaving like he is just tapping her. He wants her to come out fighting and have a meltdown enough to break down and tell him how she feels. I think the hospital scene is what he wants from her now. She needs to show him what she did when she was trying to bring him back to life for her. He wants her fighting for him bec' she loves him. He doesn't want the coy dutiful nursemaid or a mother figure. He told his meals etc. were always being taken care of by his mother long before she came into his life. He wants a woman who is there now with him bec' she needs him and he is her world, Bus! But Baba is not getting it just yet. Imagine the fireworks when she let's loose, hope they let her do that at some point, match his fire with hers. KABOOM!😳

People have killed in the name of passion. If that is where Krishna was in his mind he would have blown her brains out or his own. But he also knows it's the act of a coward. He wants her to unleash her feelings. She has given him tibits about giving her a chance and him being important. When he does give her a chance to express she becomes his doting mother. Ugh! We are frustrated watching her why wouldn't he be?
Edited by MERARAI - 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI

There is a misconception that one who loves their spouse will never ever say hurtful things to each other. Sure there are couples everywhere who coast through life without a single argument. It may work for them. But sometimes passion between a couple can also be expressed as aggressive talk about the silliest of stuff. It's a little tango dance between them that bonds them.😳

I took the time to rewatch y'day interaction between Krishna and Prats closely esp. Krishna's expression. A couple of times I saw a smug look at knowing he had evoked a deeper response from her, of hurt, of seeing her not crying but absorbing what he had to say. I even got the feeling he is tired of her goody two shoes step and dance. He wants to draw the sherni in her out. He knows she is capable of being in full form and fight back. He is gunning for a fight. He is pushing all the right buttons to see how far she would go and what would breakdown her walls. In the last few days she has confided in him that she felt everything had been snatched from her in that one moment and she didn't know until then what he meant to her. She hasn't elobarated, he was asleep by the time she got to the important part. He wants her to spell it all out bec' that is how he is, he wants to see her gutsy enough to express her feelings for him. We saw him looking into her eyes with a soul searching look.

Prats should tune into not talking to him about the things that tick him off. His family, esp. Arushi and Aman are sore points with him. He took a dig at them when he said why wouldn't they like him he is educated just like the rest of you.

After telling him she didn't know how important he was to her she starts the next day by treating him like a little child and he is confused. I interpret his lashing out at her his way of drawing her out to to tell him and fight back to show him he is her world. She is giving him little bits and pieces.

Y'day it was your happiness is most important to me. Notice he doesn't look at her in the face when she opens up and also after he lied about saving her out of humanity. He is hurting and he wants her to experience and understand his pain. It may not make sense or even be about what really matters but it often happens that a couple argues about irrelevant stuff when the underlying reason is way off base.

I guess when it comes to life Krishna is measuring her feelings for him in much the same way he expressed his feelings. When she hurt him he winced and licked his wounds but bounced back and fought through her barriers and showed her no matter what she said and how much he hurt when his anger dissipated he went back to loving her. He is not seeing that from Prats. She is patronizing him when he knows that she is also capable of fighting back. I get the feeling that he feels the need to see her fight for him. He was lying in that hospital bed and it was her fighting for him to come back to her that got him to return. He may want to see that from her do the same for their marriage. Remember he told Amma "hum humesha Prats ko humara patni banake rakhenge". He wants to see that she will fight for him as well.

Ok, I'm rambling but it's early in the morning so. hope you get the point...........😃



Mera there is no argument that this story is still flying high, very nicely explained by you but miserably portrayed by CVs ( The last episode), The screen play the acting and the dialogues seems bogus to me. This team is far more capable than what they produced the other day. Last week provided such a high platform to launch the next track but this effort by CVs seemed so poor in sustaining the same levels of interest across majority of the viewers.

Lets hope the instant feedback could open their eyes soon. 😕
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Meera di

I completely agree Krishna wants prats to react he wants her to be the defiant women he has seen so many time before. The taunt about saving her out of humanity was nonsense and he knew it but he was willing to say anything that would cause her pain he wanted to push her to the edge where she would have to react in the way he so badly wanted her to.

His issue is only that he does not understand why she is living with him what is the reason behind her sudden change in behavior this is bothering him he wants it to be out of love but doubts it may be due to her guilty or sense of duty. His behavior will continue until Prats realizes that being silent is only justifying his accusations she must react, communicate with him he wants reassurance a portrayal of her love but will no longer due with her kind actions he wants proof which he will only get once she decides to talk to him. Yesterday after every taunt he threw at her he looked at her searched her eyes for answers looked at her facial expressions he wanted to see anger frustration but found pain instead he wants a showdown and prats needs to give him one.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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He so badly wants Prats to SAY that she loves him but till she doesn't realise it herself, these taunts will continue!

Prats felt hurt when he said that he saved her out of humanity and not love. She dismissed his claims of love so many times in the past but now she is really yearning for them. Just if she did some self-reflection and asked herself;

-Why is his happiness the most important to her?
-Why can't she see him in pain?
-Why did she blurt out that she can't live without him when he was temporarily dead.


Once she becomes clear of her feelings, she will explode hopefully and then aal willl be wellllllllll! 😃

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