The Kriya journey - looking back, looking forward

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This one goes out especially for Sam, because he asked for it and to all Kriya lovers as a special celebratory post! I thought one must not be lazy and should mark the occasion! But looks like I got carried away and have landed with a mile long post. Please forgive me for this crazy long post, but kindly indulge!

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The world must have told a million love stories. Each unique and all similar. The Kriya love story is a special one. Its longest chapter has been its first one. The very act of falling in love has been an arduous task for both the lovers. Both have had to overcome the greatest internal conflicts to arrive at the depth of their love. Most people would argue that for Krishna, love was an instantaneous thing and for Pratigya it was a path of greatest resistance. I have a slightly different take on this-

Yes, it is true that Krishna recognized his kindred spirit and the accompanying emotion immediately. He allowed that recognition to drive him into taking action ' striving to acquire the object of his affections and doing the best he could to keep her with him. But did Krishna fully understand the depth of his feelings or the true state of love till now? I think not. Krishna always has had a strong sense of self, great pride in his own physical and mental strength. Thought of himself as a man who bows for no one, who gets what he wants at all costs ' a man who is will remain unswayed by another's will or maneuvers. He thought that love's path ends with marriage, where a woman is brought home to look after home and hearth and life goes on smoothly as before, albeit more pleasantly. He was in for a rude shock. He began to find slowly that far from being the sweetner he assumed it would be love turned his life upside down. Everyday brought fresh questions and fresh challenges. With each successful challenge his love has been growing steadier but paradoxically more frustrated for being unrequited. But he still resisted the ultimate sacrifice that love demands, which is complete surrender. A surrendering of the ego, personality, values and beliefs and eventually even the sense of self. (Oh! I am not saying this is simple at all, these are the demands of a rare kind of love! But then this is a rare kind of love story!) But the extradinary shock which he received in court that day has shaken him to the core. His natural sense of self-preservation urges him not to be the proverbial "Love's fool!" and but an even stronger force has already told him that he does not have a choice. That his love leaves him with no choice. That even at the cost of his pride and former beliefs, at the cost of social ridicule, he will eventually choose to love, and not doubt or hate. Right at this moment Krishna is going through the motions of a resistance, the last defiance, a last look at his former self before he finally dons the very heavy mantle of his real love.

Coming to Pratigya ' the graph of her love has been very different. Hers did not even begin on the upper-right quadrant of the graph. Hers has been a steep climb up from a wholly negative space. Overcoming, anger, resentment, hurt, suspicion and blatant mistrust she has passed through the stages of misgiving, tolerance, acceptance, affection and then rapidly to love. Hers was a journey from disbelief to faith. But once that faith has come to her, love has been accepted wholly and instantaneously. Nothing stands in the way of her love now ' not fear of the extreme tortures she may have to endure for the sake of it, not a fear that she may have to abase herself for it, not even the fact that she may have to painstakingly win back the love she may have lost. Once given her commitment is complete.

In effect I think, that though Krishna and Pratigya may have started their journey from different points and swam different courses, they have arrived at the bottom of the ocean simultaneously. It remains to be seen how they swim in unison now.

This brings me to the next part of the discussion ' What is the quality of Pratigya's love? Everybody accepts that Krishna's love is passionate, spontaneous and combustible. Now we know that it is also strong enough to be capable of great sacrifice. But opinion is divided about the nature of Pratigya's love. People see this rational stoic girl, who keeps her own counsel, who relies on her intellect to answer problems. But I see Pratigya as someone primarily motored by her gut and heart. Her intellectual facade is just that ' a facade, a veneer, a defense. All her decisions to date - from marrying Krishna (love of family) resisting him (not sensible, just gutsy), to accepting him (immediately contrite and guilty for having misjudged him), to loving him, coming back and staying for him (finally trusting and really seeing his true nature) ' have all been dictated by her heart and not by reasoned profit and loss tabulations. Her not eating and sitting at the doorstep are not sensible things to do, they are not even necessary. it could in fact prove dangerous to expose her desperation and vulnerability to the Thakurs. But when has fear or establishment ever deterred Pratigya?! She will always listen to her "Mann ki Awaaz"!

This encourages me to hope that Pratigya will be the best sort of lover ' heart-driven and entirely giving. And not just a good, dutiful wife who is only bent upon saving her marriage. I feel that her love for Krishna will underline her actions from now on. I think hers will be a deep multi-dimensional love. I only hope that the CVs' concur with this opinion. In which case we will be lucky indeed!


Just for today, because the occasion calls for it, I leave you with this wonderful poem by Elizabeth Barrett Browning -

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of Being and ideal Grace.
I love thee to the level of everyday's
Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.
I love thee freely, as men strive for Right;
I love thee purely, as they turn from Praise.
I love thee with a passion put to use
In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.
I love thee with a love I seemed to lose
With my lost saints, --- I love thee with the breath,
Smiles, tears, of all my life! --- and, if God choose,
I shall but love thee better after death.

Love

(What else?)

Dyehard.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Whats this, yaar??????

Even a good maha episode today wouldnt ahve made me feel ncer than this post!!
Awesome...awesome is the not word to be precise!!
Though I disagree with few poitsn you made, I thoroughly thoroughly enjoyed ..it...
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I was quite sure that you would make a post...but I thot it wud be on yesterday's hug ..(Tanthya had already given one sweet dose of desc on dat :-) ) but this one has come as a surprise....a very pleasant one as well!!
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That was such a well-written post and it's hard to add anything on to that because you've said it all.

I've been quite fascinated with the way KriYa's love story has progressed because as you said it is a 'rare love story'. The way they have both gradually changed over time due to each other has been so natural and realistic.

The way Krishna slowly started to understand her desires, her wishes was so beautifully done. The changes we saw in him when they left the house were so subtle but so important. He saw the interaction Chandu, Tunna had with Pratigya and understood the need for verbal communication with his wife. Try to get to know her and listen to her. He came out of this self-obsessed behaviour i.e. 'I love her so I must have her no matter what'.

Pratigya's journey has been equally beautiful. From the woman who was out to take revenge to someone who started to see the innocence in her husband. She began to understand that even though Krishna can be violent, he is definitely not a bad person at heart. Once you see the person for who he is its so much easier to understand their viewpoints & feelings. She started to depend on his support and then the heart completely melted when she realised that this is THE man for her. A partner who will do anything and everything for her, will go against the whole world to be at her side. I'd be shocked if she didn't fall for him after the way he was there for her despite being so depressed himself.

The most poignant moment for me was when even in his current state, his hand automatically moved to wipe her tears. Despite the anger and hurt, he still couldn't see Pratigya in tears. That scene was so simply but breathtaking...!


Now I want full on romance...! 🤣
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Dyehard 🤗 thank you so much, You have one hell of a style dear. What a post.🤗



Sam 😊
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Originally posted by: Dyehard

This one goes out especially for Sam, because she asked for it and to all Kriya lovers as a special celebratory post! I thought one must not be lazy and should mark the occasion! But looks like I got carried away and have landed with a mile long post. Please forgive me for this crazy long post, but kindly indulge!

+++++++++++

The world must have told a million love stories. Each unique and all similar. The Kriya love story is a special one. Its longest chapter has been its first one. The very act of falling in love has been an arduous task for both the lovers. Both have had to overcome the greatest internal conflicts to arrive at the depth of their love. Most people would argue that for Krishna, love was an instantaneous thing and for Pratigya it was a path of greatest resistance. I have a slightly different take on this-

Yes, it is true that Krishna recognized his kindred spirit and the accompanying emotion immediately. He allowed that recognition to drive him into taking action ' striving to acquire the object of his affections and doing the best he could to keep her with him. But did Krishna fully understand the depth of his feelings or the true state of love till now? I think not. Krishna always has had a strong sense of self, great pride in his own physical and mental strength. Thought of himself as a man who bows for no one, who gets what he wants at all costs ' a man who is will remain unswayed by another's will or maneuvers. He thought that love's path ends with marriage, where a woman is brought home to look after home and hearth and life goes on smoothly as before, albeit more pleasantly. He was in for a rude shock. He began to find slowly that far from being the sweetner he assumed it would be love turned his life upside down. Everyday brought fresh questions and fresh challenges. With each successful challenge his love has been growing steadier but paradoxically more frustrated for being unrequited. But he still resisted the ultimate sacrifice that love demands, which is complete surrender. A surrendering of the ego, personality, values and beliefs and eventually even the sense of self. (Oh! I am not saying this is simple at all, these are the demands of a rare kind of love! But then this is a rare kind of love story!) But the extradinary shock which he received in court that day has shaken him to the core. His natural sense of self-preservation urges him not to be the proverbial "Love's fool!" and but an even stronger force has already told him that he does not have a choice. That his love leaves him with no choice. That even at the cost of his pride and former beliefs, at the cost of social ridicule, he will eventually choose to love, and not doubt or hate. Right at this moment Krishna is going through the motions of a resistance, the last defiance, a last look at his former self before he finally dons the very heavy mantle of his real love.

Coming to Pratigya ' the graph of her love has been very different. Hers did not even begin on the upper-right quadrant of the graph. Hers has been a steep climb up from a wholly negative space. Overcoming, anger, resentment, hurt, suspicion and blatant mistrust she has passed through the stages of misgiving, tolerance, acceptance, affection and then rapidly to love. Hers was a journey from disbelief to faith. But once that faith has come to her, love has been accepted wholly and instantaneously. Nothing stands in the way of her love now ' not fear of the extreme tortures she may have to endure for the sake of it, not a fear that she may have to abase herself for it, not even the fact that she may have to painstakingly win back the love she may have lost. Once given her commitment is complete.

In effect I think, that though Krishna and Pratigya may have started their journey from different points and swam different courses, they have arrived at the bottom of the ocean simultaneously. It remains to be seen how they swim in unison now.

This brings me to the next part of the discussion ' What is the quality of Pratigya's love? Everybody accepts that Krishna's love is passionate, spontaneous and combustible. Now we know that it is also strong enough to be capable of great sacrifice. But opinion is divided about the nature of Pratigya's love. People see this rational stoic girl, who keeps her own counsel, who relies on her intellect to answer problems. But I see Pratigya as someone primarily motored by her gut and heart. Her intellectual faade is just that ' a faade, a veneer, a defense. All her decisions to date - from marrying Krishna (love of family) resisting him (not sensible, just gutsy), to accepting him (immediately contrite and guilty for having misjudged him), to loving him, coming back and staying for him (finally trusting and really seeing his true nature) ' have all been dictated by her heart and not by reasoned profit and loss tabulations. Her not eating and sitting at the doorstep are not sensible things to do, they are not even necessary. it could in fact prove dangerous to expose her desperation and vulnerability to the Thakurs. But when has fear or establishment ever deterred Pratigya?! She will always listen to her "Mann ki Awaaz"!

This encourages me to hope that Pratigya will be the best sort of lover ' heart-driven and entirely giving. And not just a good, dutiful wife who is only bent upon saving her marriage. I feel that her love for Krishna will underline her actions from now on. I think hers will be a deep multi-dimensional love. I only hope that the CVs' concur with this opinion. In which case we will be lucky indeed!


Just for today, because the occasion calls for it, I leave you with wonderful poem of Elizabeth Barrett Browning -

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of Being and ideal Grace.
I love thee to the level of everyday's
Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.
I love thee freely, as men strive for Right;
I love thee purely, as they turn from Praise.
I love thee with a passion put to use
In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.
I love thee with a love I seemed to lose
With my lost saints, --- I love thee with the breath,
Smiles, tears, of all my life! --- and, if God choose,
I shall but love thee better after death.

Love

(What else?)

Dyehard.




Beautifully expressed, My dear !!

Although I would say that I would not be in a hurry to equate Pratigya's love with Krishna's ...

Pratigya's love is newly awakened and still is fresh and as you said it has swum from the negative quadrant ..[one shud always bear that in mind ] ....but she is also a girl who has a strong sense of self respect and self esteem ..will she surrender that ?? I doubt it ..

Krishna's love has been tested many a time , he has sailed thru..but Pratigya's love is yet to face any test ..it has germinated and is in the process of blooming...how will it react when it faces extreme heat or extreme cold ...her love has not met with any resistance so far [unlike Krishna's ]..is her love strong enough to weather Krishna's hurt and anger ??will her love for Krishna supersede her blind devotion to her father ?? If Krishna were to support Thakurs or go against her Papa ..will that love swim back to negative quadrant ??..will it be love on her terms or will it be whole hearted ...So many question's course thru my mind..only the unravelling of future track will enable us to see and understand the quality and depth of her love ..

Until then...as far as I am concerned , The jury is still out there ...
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Beautifully expressed, My dear !!

Although I would say that I would not be in a hurry to equate Pratigya's love with Krishna's ...

Pratigya's love is newly awakened and still is fresh and as you said it has swum from the negative quadrant ..[one shud always bear that in mind ] ....but she is also a girl who has a strong sense of self respect and self esteem ..will she surrender that ?? I doubt it ..

Krishna's love has been tested many a time , he has sailed thru..but Pratigya's love is yet to face any test ..it has germinated and is in the process of blooming...how will it react when it faces extreme heat or extreme cold ...her love has not met with any resistance so far [unlike Krishna's ]..is her love strong enough to weather Krishna's hurt and anger ??will her love for Krishna supersede her blind devotion to her father ?? If Krishna were to support Thakurs or go against her Papa ..will that love swim back to negative quadrant ??..will it be love on her terms or will it be whole hearted ...So many question's course thru my mind..only the unravelling of future track will enable us to see and understand the quality and depth of her love ..

Until then...as far as I am concerned , The jury is still out there ...
exactly...
Pratigya's love is fresh... n she holds on b4 she takes any step!!
where as Krishna's a tried n tested one,..he had everrytime come out with flying colours!!
but where Pratigya is now cud turn out to be a bigger battle ground than Krishna had ever faced and who knows she might assert her love in this in a much more admirable and adorable fashoin!!
Edited by HamiSky - 15 years ago
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Dyehard.
Well written.
We will have to see how it plays out, for Prats newly found love is nowhere near the depth and instensity of Krishna's love.😊...Also she needs to get comfortable with the feelings first, for he is the more extrovert when it comes to displays of emotions....
But for thanks posting my all time fave poem....👏
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Beautiful, gr8 post Dyehard... excellent analysis.....😊
I also agree with Tanthya's post...... Krishna's love has been forged in fire... it is tried and tested and it has been proved true.....👍🏼
Prats love is a very new emotion for her.... will it withstand the future shocks and knocks......will she ever stand by Krishna "this is my love, my husband", or will it be business as usual "maika".. only time will tell....😊
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

That was such a well-written post and it's hard to add anything on to that because you've said it all.

I've been quite fascinated with the way KriYa's love story has progressed because as you said it is a 'rare love story'. The way they have both gradually changed over time due to each other has been so natural and realistic.

The way Krishna slowly started to understand her desires, her wishes was so beautifully done. The changes we saw in him when they left the house were so subtle but so important. He saw the interaction Chandu, Tunna had with Pratigya and understood the need for verbal communication with his wife. Try to get to know her and listen to her. He came out of this self-obsessed behaviour i.e. 'I love her so I must have her no matter what'.

Pratigya's journey has been equally beautiful. From the woman who was out to take revenge to someone who started to see the innocence in her husband. She began to understand that even though Krishna can be violent, he is definitely not a bad person at heart. Once you see the person for who he is its so much easier to understand their viewpoints & feelings. She started to depend on his support and then the heart completely melted when she realised that this is THE man for her. A partner who will do anything and everything for her, will go against the whole world to be at her side. I'd be shocked if she didn't fall for him after the way he was there for her despite being so depressed himself.

The most poignant moment for me was when even in his current state, his hand automatically moved to wipe her tears. Despite the anger and hurt, he still couldn't see Pratigya in tears. That scene was so simply but breathtaking...!


Now I want full on romance...! 🤣



Lovely!
Yes! through all the murk of the Thakur terror, Pratigya is seeing the purity of Krishna's love like a beacon. Every time she is prepared for a little less and each time he gives her more, and her admiration and anguish increase. It is beautiful to see. She I think is now a Krishna fan to beat all Krishna fans! 😆😳
As for wanting a full-blown romance - what can I say but -AAMEEN!



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