Facts within the fiction...where is it headed?

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REQUEST: A HEALTHY RESPECTFUL DEBATE IS ALWAYS WELCOME. THIS IS A KRISHNA BASHING-FREE ZONE AND IS NOT WELCOME. We would like to understand the hell he is going through right now.😕😲

When it comes to a marriage, the man and wife or woman and husband as some would prefer to say it are two halves of a whole. What ones does directly and indirectly affects the other. Secrets eat away at the marriage. The absence of truth, trust, respect and honesty will make the marriage a sham even if two people co-exist in the same home.

Bottom line" WIthout trust and respect, there is no love".


Let's look at the facts within this fiction in this track (otherwise this post could turn into a novel)
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Prats finds out truth Angad was her kidnapper

Prats stayed overnight at parents and slapped Angad again and got him sent to jail
Krishna asks Sax family is all izz well. They say yes. THEY LIED. HE TRUSTS THEM
SS takes them back home to Niwas
Krishna says all the walls are down, let's be pati-patni but PRATS IS NOT READY
She wants friendship and he agrees
In the name of friendship he asks her if she needs to tell him anything
She LIES and says NO while keeping her vachan to her father intact. (Shows at this point her vachan was more important than honesty to her pati)
Krishna finds out about Angad's bothering his sasural after Prof. is arrested
He confronts Prats about hiding Angad's recent pareshaans and her arresting Angad. TELLS HER to her face, I AM PREPARED, IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE NOT TOLD ME AND FEEL YOU HAVE LEFT OUT, COME OUT CLEAN WITH IT. She takes mouna-vrata and doesn't tell him(Again vachan to Papa superceded honesty and trust to her pati)

Enter Perry Mathur. She wants to get her Papa out of jail. MATHUR wants Saxes to sachchayi ka saat dena. She agrees. She then realizes the truth will come out in court. She is now ready to tell Krishna the truth. NOT BECAUSE SHE FELT HE DESERVED THE TRUTH ALL ALONG but her fear that he should be told before it makes it to the public forum in court. (Again, not to uphold the trust between them but more to save herself from the fall out if it came out in court). HAD SHE FELT HE DESERVED THE TRUTH NO MATTER WHAT SHE WOULD HAVE DITCHED HER VACHAN AND TOLD HIM THE TRUTH.


Now she wants to tell Krishna who by now has just about had it with all the drama between his family and his sasural and USING him like a football in their games on one side and Prats stringing him along on the other.

Prats tries to tell him about the kidnapping. Krishna doesn't want to hear any more stories
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As the trial begins she panics that the truth needed to be told and time was running out.
Krishna knows Angad had something to do with the whole mess but it riles him further and he didn't want to hear it.

As usual whatever significant info. Prats needed to address always comes out in a public way. The POPs have always taken the literal interpretation to "TAKE A STAND" when Prats reveals all. The outing of their intimate life during havan(twice, (once by Amma and another by her), now the blockbuster bomb that could have been averted easily.

As the saying goes............Timing is everything. Keta bodhu kudukavittaal kuduthum payan illai (if you don't give someone something when they ask for it, it's useless to give it to them later or when they don't need it or it has lost it's value example, when someone is hungry if you don't feed him what is the point in giving them food later on when they have already eaten)

Sure Krishna could have listened to her now but so could Prats have said tel lene to her vachan to her Papa once she realized how intense Krishna was after he found out about her sending Angad to jail for a day. Her timing was way off and she only tried to tell him when she felt herself conrnered bec' of the upcoming case. Bottom line, she didn't trust him to handle the truth and avoided it. Now it has blown up in her face and we are about to see her coal face painting...what a symbolism of the way things turned out.
😲

Didn't she know she had to face the music aka Krishna's reaction when it came out eventually one way or the other? Even if she hadn't wanted to earlier, the fact that the truth about Angad being her kidnappper came out eventually should have woken her up to the fact that the truth will out itself. She could have chosen to tell Krishna the truth about the kidnapping in private and explained it to him easily all in the "friendship bubble". Bringing it out in the public forum (again the intention was to save her Papa) has shocked Krishna.

Is Krishna feeling betrayed for her lack of trust in him after he repeatedly asked her for the full story by keeping such a big secret from him?


Does he feel his marriage is a lie and the veil has been lifted off his eyes now that he realizes she married him bec' she believes he kidnapped him?


Does it offend him to know that the woman he loved unconditionally thought him capable of such a despicable act? A woman whom he has taken so much crap from his own family to defend and protect her.


Even if she did believe it earlier once she was married and got to know the truth about Angad being the kidnapper, why didnn't she tell him all? Valid question for him to ask.


Does he realize she never trusted him ever and that could be the body blow to him that he can't accept now?


Does it tell him that her lack of trust meant she was and never going to reciprocate his love and he can't face that reality?


Is his internal struggle about coming to terms with the betrayal that the one person he loved, defended and protected all along had thought him unworthy of the truth, honesty and respect after all that he has done to prove his love for her over and again?


Is Krishna realizing that he will never be the most important person in her life, her Papa and maike will always came first? She once told him she would do anything for her Papa and loved him the most. That alone was hurtful for Krishna to hear when he did.


Does Krishna believe that Angad may have done something to sully her reputation and given the belief system about a woman betraying a husband, is his reaction to the news sending him off the deep end? Bec' it's one thing to judge another's life situation and after all the talk the day before that she would have to face the same mauth for her betrayal he finds he can't do that to her and instead tries to hurt himself?


Krishna has always been needy of her love, the $64 billion dollar question is why???? If you have the answers, chalo humko enlighten keejiye.

Chalbo, our isiscuss karo
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P.S: I will return in 12-14 hours so keep the discussion going😃.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Holla Merari! Abe tera post bahut lamba hai be! 😆 Poora padha nahin jaa raha!

But I just wanna say - Show main jo kuch bhi dikha rahe hain, sab bhangar hai! 😆 Aajkal direction bahut week ho gaya hai, unncessary charcaters daal rahe hain and then they are thrown out without a warning! First the doctor and now I guess the lawyer will go too! 😉

And show main - according to me - married life ka bahut galat part portray ho raha hai! 🤢
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Posted: 15 years ago
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haaan bey such a lng post lol..how long did it take u making it..
ehehe..
well i think krishus reaction is very normal..actually its kinda abnormal 4 sum1 lyk him being quiet n hasnt done nething as yet lol..i was scared he might getup n shout in d court or sumthing ehehe:p
but well its quiet obvious 4 him to react lyk tis..but m glad hes gona support her infront ov his familyy..i wish he slaps dat maid n order her to respect d lady ov d house..huhh she sumtyms seems to be pratigyas sasuma n nt a maid lol:p
i want krishu to understand pratigya n TRUST HER if she sayss nuthing bad happnd wit her he shud believe her..I HOPEE HE FORGIVES HER FOR NT TELLIN IT TO HIM BEFORE..i mean she tried to tel him she was trying it since da last few days but she shud av tld it to him on d wedding nyt..or mayb before marriage
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI

REQUEST: A HEALTHY RESPECTFUL DEBATE IS ALWAYS WELCOME. THIS IS A KRISHNA BASHING-FREE ZONE AND IS NOT WELCOME. We would like to understand the hell he is going through right now.😕😲

When it comes to a marriage, the man and wife or woman and husband as some would prefer to say it are two halves of a whole. What ones does directly and indirectly affects the other. Secrets eat away at the marriage. The absence of truth, trust, respect and honesty will make the marriage a sham even if two people co-exist in the same home.

Bottom line" WIthout trust and respect, there is no love".


Let's look at the facts within this fiction in this track (otherwise this post could turn into a novel)
😛😆

Prats finds out truth Angad was her kidnapper

Prats stayed overnight at parents and slapped Angad again and got him sent to jail
Krishna asks Sax family is all izz well. They say yes. THEY LIED. HE TRUSTS THEM
SS takes them back home to Niwas
Krishna says all the walls are down, let's be pati-patni but PRATS IS NOT READY
She wants friendship and he agrees
In the name of friendship he asks her if she needs to tell him anything
She LIES and says NO while keeping her vachan to her father intact. (Shows at this point her vachan was more important than honesty to her pati)
Krishna finds out about Angad's bothering his sasural after Prof. is arrested
He confronts Prats about hiding Angad's recent pareshaans and her arresting Angad. TELLS HER to her face, I AM PREPARED, IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE NOT TOLD ME AND FEEL YOU HAVE LEFT OUT, COME OUT CLEAN WITH IT. She takes mouna-vrata and doesn't tell him(Again vachan to Papa superceded honesty and trust to her pati)

Enter Perry Mathur. She wants to get her Papa out of jail. MATHUR wants Saxes to sachchayi ka saat dena. She agrees. She then realizes the truth will come out in court. She is now ready to tell Krishna the truth. NOT BECAUSE SHE FELT HE DESERVED THE TRUTH ALL ALONG but her fear that he should be told before it makes it to the public forum in court. (Again, not to uphold the trust between them but more to save herself from the fall out if it came out in court). HAD SHE FELT HE DESERVED THE TRUTH NO MATTER WHAT SHE WOULD HAVE DITCHED HER VACHAN AND TOLD HIM THE TRUTH.


Now she wants to tell Krishna who by now has just about had it with all the drama between his family and his sasural and USING him like a football in their games on one side and Prats stringing him along on the other.

Prats tries to tell him about the kidnapping. Krishna doesn't want to hear any more stories
.
As the trial begins she panics that the truth needed to be told and time was running out.
Krishna knows Angad had something to do with the whole mess but it riles him further and he didn't want to hear it.

As usual whatever significant info. Prats needed to address always comes out in a public way. The POPs have always taken the literal interpretation to "TAKE A STAND" when Prats reveals all. The outing of their intimate life during havan(twice, (once by Amma and another by her), now the blockbuster bomb that could have been averted easily.

As the saying goes............Timing is everything. Keta bodhu kudukavittaal kuduthum payan illai (if you don't give someone something when they ask for it, it's useless to give it to them later or when they don't need it or it has lost it's value example, when someone is hungry if you don't feed him what is the point in giving them food later on when they have already eaten)

Sure Krishna could have listened to her now but so could Prats have said tel lene to her vachan to her Papa once she realized how intense Krishna was after he found out about her sending Angad to jail for a day. Her timing was way off and she only tried to tell him when she felt herself conrnered bec' of the upcoming case. Bottom line, she didn't trust him to handle the truth and avoided it. Now it has blown up in her face and we are about to see her coal face painting...what a symbolism of the way things turned out.
😲

Didn't she know she had to face the music aka Krishna's reaction when it came out eventually one way or the other? Even if she hadn't wanted to earlier, the fact that the truth about Angad being her kidnappper came out eventually should have woken her up to the fact that the truth will out itself. She could have chosen to tell Krishna the truth about the kidnapping in private and explained it to him easily all in the "friendship bubble". Bringing it out in the public forum (again the intention was to save her Papa) has shocked Krishna.

Is Krishna feeling betrayed for her lack of trust in him after he repeatedly asked her for the full story by keeping such a big secret from him?


Does he feel his marriage is a lie and the veil has been lifted off his eyes now that he realizes she married him bec' she believes he kidnapped him?


Does it offend him to know that the woman he loved unconditionally thought him capable of such a despicable act? A woman whom he has taken so much crap from his own family to defend and protect her.


Even if she did believe it earlier once she was married and got to know the truth about Angad being the kidnapper, why didnn't she tell him all? Valid question for him to ask.


Does he realize she never trusted him ever and that could be the body blow to him that he can't accept now?


Does it tell him that her lack of trust meant she was and never going to reciprocate his love and he can't face that reality?


Is his internal struggle about coming to terms with the betrayal that the one person he loved, defended and protected all along had thought him unworthy of the truth, honesty and respect after all that he has done to prove his love for her over and again?


Is Krishna realizing that he will never be the most important person in her life, her Papa and maike will always came first? She once told him she would do anything for her Papa and loved him the most. That alone was hurtful for Krishna to hear when he did.


Does Krishna believe that Angad may have done something to sully her reputation and given the belief system about a woman betraying a husband, is his reaction to the news sending him off the deep end? Bec' it's one thing to judge another's life situation and after all the talk the day before that she would have to face the same mauth for her betrayal he finds he can't do that to her and instead tries to hurt himself?


Krishna has always been needy of her love, the $64 billion dollar question is why???? If you have the answers, chalo humko enlighten keejiye.

Chalbo, our isiscuss karo
.

P.S: I will return in 12-14 hours so keep the discussion going😃.



Pramadhamana Virundh .. nalla thrupthikaramma Irundhahdu .....innum idhai jeeranam panni ...asse pottu ...mella thaan namma opinion-yai solla mudiyum...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Humo aaj Baba jaisa lag raja hai. Confused and sad. Hum bus Baba ka dard ko samajne ki koshish kar raho joon. I am not Perry Mathur to wind up the story plot in two paragraphs like he did the case in2 days. Humko tho dab ki sab pura evidence aap ke samne Peshawar karni thi thAaki aapko discussion aasaani se kar sake.

Not to mention I didn't get to post as much yday and so it all came pouring out this morning after I remembered what happened yday

Looks like today is face painting day. [8

I am posting from my telephone so maap karo for typos and lack of emoticons to Express the tone of my post.
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Mera, wow long post.....but good.👏
My answer to your $64 million dollar Qs: I think Krishna recognised Pratigya as his soulmate. We have seen despite his tough exterior and upbringing, he is a sucker for romance and soft emotions. His harsh upbringing hasn't rubbed of his belief in goodness and love. Even the times when his passion was to strong, he was always able to back off. So he saw pratigya and she epitomised everything he wanted in his life. It's only after he married her, he saw her as she really is and fell even more deeply in love - now that's true love. He see's the way she is with his parents (despite their abrasive behaviour) all respectful and nice, she never complains to him about the treatment there, she helps his timid and cowed bhabi and etc. He accepts she is first in his life, always will be....he takes abuses and insults hurled towards him by his father for his 'unmanly' behaviour.
Not many men will do that, not even in real life...not even if they marry the love of their life. He is larger than life indeed.....No wonder his character is so popular with people...😃
Now going back to Pratigya..I don't want to go into all the ins and outs, enough discussion has been done.............well she is shown as a normal human being, making mistakes along the way. Newly married couples do make mistakes, it takes a while to rub along and make a go of the marriage. The marriage also started for all the wrong reasons, the CVs very realistically showed that a person's feelings doesn't change just because they got married (a refreshing change from the other serials where suddenly the husband is the important person!), hence Pratigy and Krishna being at the opposite end....she was too full of anger and dislike to see him properly.....if she suddenly fell in love and started being a proper wife, well that would be out of character. We had to see her working things out in her own way, so we will believe when she is ready to be Krishna's wife.
The way she behaved is the way the character was written: Strong, full of love,loyal to her family to the point of blindness, stubborn and has a strong sense of justice, once again to the point of blindness.........I'm sure you know where I'm heading with this(😊)....A character has to behave within the paramaters set, otherwise it becomes unblievable......So pratigya doing all the things you mentioned is because they are her character traits......towards the end we were shown she is conflicted....its because she realises there is no conflict with Krishna now but is trapped by her loyalty to her family.......her words to her father in that courtroom 'this is my fight, I walk this road alone'..something like that, anyway, indicates her moving away from her family now, her job is done and it's time to concentrate on her marriage....even when she stood in the middle looking where Krishna has gone and her family on the other end, was symbolic showing she is now in the middle, slowly moving towards Krishna.
I could say the same for Krishna, he too is within his parameters....but I'm sure here we all know what Krishna is like and that's why we adore him so.😊
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Originally posted by: Dreamygal301

Mera, wow long post.....but good.👏

My answer to your $64 million dollar Qs: I think Krishna recognised Pratigya as his soulmate. We have seen despite his tough exterior and upbringing, he is a sucker for romance and soft emotions. His harsh upbringing hasn't rubbed of his belief in goodness and love. Even the times when his passion was to strong, he was always able to back off. So he saw pratigya and she epitomised everything he wanted in his life. It's only after he married her, he saw her as she really is and fell even more deeply in love - now that's true love. He see's the way she is with his parents (despite their abrasive behaviour) all respectful and nice, she never complains to him about the treatment there, she helps his timid and cowed bhabi and etc. He accepts she is first in his life, always will be....he takes abuses and insults hurled towards him by his father for his 'unmanly' behaviour.
Not many men will do that, not even in real life...not even if they marry the love of their life. He is larger than life indeed.....No wonder his character is so popular with people...😃
Now going back to Pratigya..I don't want to go into all the ins and outs, enough discussion has been done.............well she is shown as a normal human being, making mistakes along the way. Newly married couples do make mistakes, it takes a while to rub along and make a go of the marriage. The marriage also started for all the wrong reasons, the CVs very realistically showed that a person's feelings doesn't change just because they got married (a refreshing change from the other serials where suddenly the husband is the important person!), hence Pratigy and Krishna being at the opposite end....she was too full of anger and dislike to see him properly.....if she suddenly fell in love and started being a proper wife, well that would be out of character. We had to see her working things out in her own way, so we will believe when she is ready to be Krishna's wife.
The way she behaved is the way the character was written: Strong, full of love,loyal to her family to the point of blindness, stubborn and has a strong sense of justice, once again to the point of blindness.........I'm sure you know where I'm heading with this(😊)....A character has to behave within the paramaters set, otherwise it becomes unblievable......So pratigya doing all the things you mentioned is because they are her character traits......towards the end we were shown she is conflicted....its because she realises there is no conflict with Krishna now but is trapped by her loyalty to her family.......her words to her father in that courtroom 'this is my fight, I walk this road alone'..something like that, anyway, indicates her moving away from her family now, her job is done and it's time to concentrate on her marriage....even when she stood in the middle looking where Krishna has gone and her family on the other end, was symbolic showing she is now in the middle, slowly moving towards Krishna.
I could say the same for Krishna, he too is within his parameters....but I'm sure here we all know what Krishna is like and that's why we adore him so.😊



Loved your answer 😊

I love the way you write Dream, Your ability to understand the writer's mind set in sketching these lead characters and the ability to look at the things from both the lead character's eyes and understanding the essence of the storyline deserves a huge applaud. 🤗
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Edited by SAM2U - 15 years ago
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merarai & dreamgal I lub ur analyzing both of u have had lovely pov😃


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nice post Mera ! 👍🏼
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Originally posted by: SAM2U



Loved your answer 😊

I love the way you write Dream, Your ability to understand the writer's mind set in sketching these lead characters and the ability to look at the things from both the lead character's eyes and understanding the essence of the storyline deserves a huge applaud. 🤗
👏

Thanks SamSmile
If I didn't understand the writer's mindset, well then you know I would be sitting and twiddling my thumbs all day..!!..😆
Often wish I could just sit down and enjoy something without analysing the whys and wherefores.....but having said that I do enjoy Pratigya, even at it's worst because it is one of a kind and there are enough shock values to keep everyone from getting comfortable.Smile

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