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Posted: 15 years ago
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Ah Binny there u saiid it . I was waiting so that wud come from ur end .that we must agree to disagree . 😆 Normally I wud have said it long back but today Im in no mood to hear any bashing of Krishna.Lets call it a day .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: SAM2U



So true, sacchh bolney ki saza to milni hi chahiyie.

yaar...i think you forget the IF rules ...as per the IF rules you have every right to speak out but it should be in a decent, polite,and in well mannered way without hurting others feeling , abusing the characters in a awkward way using the words creepy, jerk etc ...only mod knows why those threads were banned...i think i should ask this question to mods itself to clarify whether IF code says if we speak truth that thread should be locked and that person should be warned that too frequently...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I am going to say something and that will be it. I only post in Shruthi's topic for me which makes sense. See the discussion here is similar to deciding whether we give Jerusalem to Israel or Palestine. The two sides will never agree because the premise of making their arguments is poles apart, forget seeing the other person's point of view, they consider the other side point of view is marred in a false perspective. Each side's arguments stems from what they believe is right and just, when the two can't even agree on what is right then how can they come to a just conclusion.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Ah Binny there u saiid it . I was waiting so that wud come from ur end .that we must agree to disagree . 😆 Normally I wud have said it long back but today Im in no mood to hear any bashing of Krishna.Lets call it a day .

Yes Let's call it a day but I must say I never bash Krishna I have always accepted his good points I just refuse to overlook his faults. Anyways I agree we should just end this discussion here 😊

@ hope I completely agree with you live and let live because I personally feel that we do not come to this forum in order to force another to believe what we may think is correct and if possible those discussions should be avoided which tend to be endless since each individual is free to express their POV. Also I am not a Krishna or Pratigya supporter I only support what is right in my perspective.



Edited by Binny1247 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#75

HI i'm new here well not totally as I have been a silent reader since the show began. Today i finally decided to join the forum.

@Koolsadhu, Stillhopeful i just wanted you to know that your posts are like a breath of fresh air for me here as your POV often if not always mirrored my own. It is nice to see that i'm not the only one who thinks Krishna is also a victim (if not the biggest) in this story.
@Lighthousepier - i agree with each word of yours. It is exactly how i'm feeling right now. Very beautifully put together. Thank you 👏
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Posted: 15 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: Aeryn

HI i'm new here well not totally as I have been a silent reader since the show began. Today i finally decided to join the forum.

@Koolsadhu, Stillhopeful i just wanted you to know that your posts are like a breath of fresh air for me here as your POV often if not always mirrored my own. It is nice to see that i'm not the only one who thinks Krishna is also a victim (if not the biggest) in this story.
@Lighthousepier - i agree with each word of yours. It is exactly how i'm feeling right now. Very beautifully put together. Thank you 👏



Hi Aeryn:

welcome. I am glad you decided to post after being a silent member for a while. it is good to see people who share our views because more often than not we see those that don't. which is fine by me as long as they do not repeatedly and in a very snide and sarcastic manner try to impose those views on us.

I know I come off as a Krishna fan and more importantly a Pratigya critic but if you check out some of my posts when I joined it is apparent I joined with no particular prefernce towards either lead rather just a desire to view a love story.

in the beginning I could see Pratigya's POV but when she married for revenge I could not relate and then inspite of all her coldness and detachment when I saw Krishna's honest efforts at trying to win her love and clear whatever misunderstandings there were (even though she never really came out and told him in so many words why she hated him) my sympathies started building on the krishna side.

I have been waiting for weeks for Pratigya to act as a wife and a woman (especially after the truth about the kidnapping came to light) but alas disappointment after disappointment.

I do not fault her for being a loyal daughter or her efforts at being a good SIL to kesar. I do not even fault her for her perception and attitude towards Amma or Shakti (though I think it is more detrimental to her wellbeing) what I do fault is placing both these roles above the primary role of being a wife and a woman.

when one marries, their first commitment is to their spouse, all other relationships with husband's family are an offshoot of this priamry relationship. it is in the sacred commitment we make. we do not take sacred vows to fulfil a motive like revenge. it is disrespectful to god and the institution of marriage.

there has been a ton of debate (ad nauseum in fact) about why she married. irrespective of which position we find palatable about the "why" what is important is the fact that the marriage did happen and if her spouse has tried hard to make it work she should recognize the effort and respond half way.

she has not, she has not indicated any desire to do so in the future - whatever her reasons for this disinterest in her marriage and future - leads me to question her intention to support her father in hiding the truth for the sake of this marriage. Krishna walked away today, hurt upset and dejected. NOW is the time to console him. it is a human moment and emotion (irrespective of whether he is a husband or a friend). when your action or inaction causes someone pain, you make an immediate effort to console, comfort and care. if you dont the moment is lost.

in the sbs seg, they show her go back home. but she does not go back as a wife,s he goes back as a DIL? why her loyalties lie with her husband first.

anyways, that is my POV and rather than pratties I want Pratigya's actions to change my POV. I do not appreciate the krishna bashing in other threads but I realize that for the bashign to stop Krishna must meet their expectations. my POV or convincign argument will be ineffective so I refrain from commenting there and creating unnecessary friction just for the sake of argument.

Hope
Edited by stillhopeful - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: stillhopeful



Hi Aeryn:

welcome. I am glad you decided to post after being a silent member for a while. it is good to see people who share our views because more often than not we see those that don't. which is fine by me as long as they do not repeatedly and in a very snide and sarcastic manner try to impose those views on us.

I know I come off as a Krishna fan and more importantly a Pratigya critic but if you check out some of my posts when I joined it is apparent I joined with no particular prefernce towards either lead rather just a desire to view a love story.

in the beginning I could see Pratigya's POV but when she married for revenge I could not relate and then inspite of all her coldness and detachment when I saw Krishna's honest efforts at trying to win her love and clear whatever misunderstandings there were (even though she never really came out and told him in so many words why she hated him) my sympathies started building on the krishna side.

I have been waiting for weeks for Pratigya to act as a wife and a woman (especially after the truth about the kidnapping came to light) but alas disappointment after disappointment.

I do not fault her for being a loyal daughter or her efforts at being a good SIL to kesar. I do not even fault her for her perception and attitude towards Amma or Shakti (though I think it is more detrimental to her wellbeing) what I do fault is placing both these roles above the primary role of being a wife and a woman.

when one marries, their first commitment is to their spouse, all other relationships with husband's family are an offshoot of this priamry relationship. it is in the sacred commitment we make. we do not take sacred vows to fulfil a motive like revenge. it is disrespectful to god and the institution of marriage.

there has been a ton of debate (ad nauseum in fact) about why she married. irrespective of which position we find palatable about the "why" what is important is the fact that the marriage did happen and if her spouse has tried hard to make it work she should recognize the effort and respond half way.

she has not, she has not indicated any desire to do so in the future - whatever her reasons for this disinterest in her marriage and future - leads me to question her intention to support her father in hiding the truth for the sake of this marriage. Krishna walked away today, hurt upset and dejected. NOW is the time to console him. it is a human moment and emotion (irrespective of whether he is a husband or a friend). when your action or inaction causes someone pain, you make an immediate effort to console, comfort and care. if you dont the moment is lost.

in the sbs seg, they show her go back home. but she does not go back as a wife,s he goes back as a DIL? why her loyalties lie with her husband first.

anyways, that is my POV and rather than pratties I want Pratigya's actions to change my POV. I do not appreciate the krishna bashing in other threads but I realize that for the bashign to stop Krishna must meet their expectations. my POV or convincign argument will be ineffective so I refrain from commenting there and creating unnecessary friction just for the sake of argument.

Hope

@ stillhopeful are you married ?
Edited by shumi. - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: loveanime

I am going to say something and that will be it. I only post in Shruthi's topic for me which makes sense. See the discussion here is similar to deciding whether we give Jerusalem to Israel or Palestine. The two sides will never agree because the premise of making their arguments is poles apart, forget seeing the other person's point of view, they consider the other side point of view is marred in a false perspective. Each side's arguments stems from what they believe is right and just, when the two can't even agree on what is right then how can they come to a just conclusion.



loveanime:👏 👏 👏 👏
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I have noticed you on Shruti's threads before and know that you like the character pratigya alot and I too refrain from posting on Shrutis threads for the same reason that you refrain from posting here but I wanted to say thank you for saying the above. Your comments were rational and I agree wholeheartedly.

if the CVs do not seperate krishna and pratigya then I hope that they show them in such a way together and individually that will meet our expecatations in the future and we can all find some middle ground while maintaining our preferences and our POV.

Hope
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@ stillhopeful are you married ?


yes shumi, I married very young at 21. have been married for 13 years and have two kids. my pre-marriage life was like pratigya. I was idealistic and believed that everything was black or white.
then I got married, lost some of my arrogance voluntarily 😆😆 and realized that marriage is predominately shades of grey with a few specks of black or white thrown in to provide moments of stability.

compromise and appreciation of your partners efforts is the name of the game.

if you do not realize the others worth and consideration and only expect them to appreciate your own or stick to your ideals you will sleep daily in a lonely bed with only your ideals to warm your soul. A very lonely existence.

how about you?

Hope
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion that is respectful and as per the rules on this forum. Everyone does not need to flow with one wave.

Some may think Pratigya is right, and others might think Krishna is right. Both groups are right in their own perspectives. However, it gives none of the groups the right to degrade the other groups point of view.
There is absolutely no reason to degrade opinions b/c others don't do this or that etc. That is subtle instigating, and that is not allowed on India-Forums.
Express your opinions, disagree with others-but do it in a respectful manner. If you do not like an opinion, then by all means don't like it. However, it gives no one any right to say to any member how can you say this or that b/c it is solely their opinion-ie personal belief. Everyone is entitled to this personal belief.
Stimulating discussions only happen when everyone learns to respect opposing views. There is always a respectable approach to disagreeing/arguing. It depends on how one takes the approach. There is absolutely no need to get personal or degrade others opinions.
I see no reason why everyone needs to get worked up b/c members have opposing views. Life would be very boring if everyone thought exactly the same. As we need genetic diversity, we need differing minds.
This isn't exactly for this topic alone, it's in general. Even other sections do come to play here.
Again this is not aimed at anyone in particular-it is aimed at the approch of discussion.

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