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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: MERARAI

Good points ๐Ÿ‘
Why does Prats have a hard time talking about her problems with Krishna in a calm and rational manner?
actually she has taken the pratigya that i will be a warior princess who will teach krishna a lesson,??? When ever she sees krishna her blood is boiling and her face is giving us zillion confused expression that me makes me think every moment whats she upto....will she kill krishna? give him poison? what is her next pratigya????๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก so how can a person with all those thoughts talk and calm and peacfully

Why does she expect him to understand everything she is going through without telling him about it? Why does she refuse to answer his questions and just stare at him?
Maybe she thinks that Krishnwa has some Vampire qualities .......like Edwards sis Alice who could read ppl's mind๐Ÿ˜†
Why does she always go for theatrics in proving her point? The havans seem to do it. May be the fire or smoke makes her speak up?
yeah she gets mad only when she see fire remember krishnwa,s big mistake ..in his hullimoon๐Ÿ˜†He decorated the bedroom with 100s of candles....๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฒAfter watching all those candles Pratigya,s vampire wakedup and shuttered krishnwa,s dreams๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ

Krishna tried to say she won't go anywhere and will stay at the house and they will talk it out. Even Nainaji and Prof. wanted her to work things out with Krishna until SS began his tirade.
Why did Krishna back off when SS ranted about Prats wanting to leave the house? Was it bec' he didn't want to be humiliated by his father any further or humiliate his father in front of his sasural?
It was a very hard scene for krishna he loves both of them,, remeber he is SS's jan and Praitigya is KRishna's Jan.......to es jan jan ki chakkar mein humara krishna ek pal kiliye be jan hogaya ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜ญhe didn,t know what to do... whom should he save but still after too much thinking he tried to stop his dad....๐Ÿ˜Š

She played along with the lie and then turned around and blamed Krishna for her incapacity to speak up when the lie started? Why didn't she out the lie earlier on? She has a pattern for lying in the past. So how is it Krishna's fault that she couldn't stand up and speak? More like her character flaw.
exactly she didn,t came up with all that lie earlier ...and she choosed a very bad event to reveal the truth.
the Drama queen wanted to make fun of her and her husband ek Dam Rakhie Sawant lag rahi thi ๐Ÿ˜กi am sure prats will be feeling too much comfortable, after hearing all those things from SS to Krishna......... choria pehno, saari pehno. na mard.. bla bla.......
Hum tumhi batayngi ki patni kiya cheez hoti hai......๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฒomg patni serf kitchen and gharwalo kiliye nahin hoti Miss Pari likey.....
Patni ka sabse bara farz hota hai apni patti ko khush rakna aur osko support karna bhi hai...๐Ÿ˜ก.......
if all patni,s are like Prats,,,,, then no one will get marriade coz all the things that prats is doing can a maid or servant do it very easily......๐Ÿ˜†

She outright lied about him supporting his family and not supporting her? Either she has amnesia or she doesn't want to acknowledge he has stood by her. Why would she have a problem with admitting he has stood by her in the past in very dramatic ways, at the name change havan, when Sakthi came to hit her twice, etc.
I am speechless for this one i don,t know what she was upto. didn,t support๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜ฒ Poor krishna he was like what the hell i think it was Nitin who was supporting her...๐Ÿ˜†how can she say that,,,, that was a very big lie and that too infront of her Baghwan.........i am telling u this girl is a bomb of confusion
Why is Krishna so needy of Pratigya? He loves her but does it make sense to live with someone who hates him with a passion? Why did he say "mei sab ko chod saktha hoon, but Pratigyaji ko nahi chod saktha?" What was it about her that has himwilling to be tortured by her behavior towards him yet not able to let her go?
Krishna loves her.........baqi is confusing



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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

My two cents .......... . Krishna did not want her to go . He loves her . Whatever his critics say , he DOES love her in his own way . . He does love his family too , even his chauvinist Dad who constantly calls him Kutta and napusank . He knows that the Chauvinism in his house is way in a different league and rather irreprarable for Pratigya to handle .What Pratgiya doesnt understand is that she has NOT married into a normal family but a gangster mentality family and they wont hesitate to SNAP her like a twig . . Krishna critics say that focus on the fact that he tried to RAPE her . They say that The Rape did Not take place only coz SS came rapping on the door . I disagree here . I say that FOCUS on the fact that he did NOT touch her for so many days ......look at the sleazy atmosphere he has been brought up in . I think .....had SS not come , He wud have perhaps kissed her forcibly but withdrawn , he wud not have gone ahead with the rape .

His Not touching her , beating up Angad to save his sister , Lying in the family seems as if he is doing it to protect HIS manly image but it is HER he is protecting as she is innocent . She doesnt know the repercussions of antagonising his Dad ..he KNOWS .
Even today he tried to calm his dad now by saying we will punish her at home DONT THROW HER OUT . He did it coz once Pratigya was thrown out , SS wud go after professor's family with a vengeance . He wud DESTROY not just Prats but the full family .
Krishna cannot express himself well in words and sometimes even by actions . The slap was more to silence her once and for all and not let the matter fester . He was CONSTANTLY trying to shush her up in front of his dad who is a vicious rattlesnake when crossed and Prats was giving all the answers that The Rattlesnake HATED . The slap was also anger on Krishnas part that Pratigya JUST didnt understand him ..........and sort of humilated him by blurting the truth in front of all . That Humilation of him as a man wud SET his Rattlesnake Dad off , who was VERY SENSITIVE about EGO Issues .
What Krishna was trying to do was protect Pratigya from his chauvinist Dad as he knew that his chauvinist Dad is NOT like him and wont keep his ruffled ego aside just coz Prats is HIS BAHU .His Dad does not give any value to his wife .krishnas own mom .............Pratigya is DOOR KI BAAT .
Krishna also caters to his Dad's chauvinist demands of being a mard and behaves as if he agrees with him on the face but the moment he is alone with Pratigya he wud sort of understand she is from a different world and mould and He wud NOT force his Dads Chauvinistic thoughts on her but preferred to take the middle path ........of LYIng to his family and yet not exactly hurting Pratigya like his Dad hurt his mom .
It is Pathetic but Thats the way I saw it . He clearly did NOT want her to go . He even desnt want to hurt her like his Dad will do now...a thing he had been avoiding till now .
I think........he will protect her when his Father will set out to destroy her . That is the time Pratigya will have her wish ...of seeing him standing by hER side against his family . He will do it when there is no turning point .......rebellion against his Dad is very near around the corner .
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Excellent post!koolsadhu1000! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

You have done a great job focusing on the atmosphere that has molded Krishna. In spite of the crude environment he grew up in he has struggled to be a different man. We have seen many times when his Dad talks trash he looks away bothered by it, esp. the way SS treats his wife. He once said about Prat's family "unka ghar ghar hai, kaidhkhana nahi", he could see the difference. He was willing for get Komal married to Adarsh bec' he didn't want the same plight for his sister that his mother and bhabhi lived every day.

Krishna saw Pratigya as the person who can be a sherni (to slap Angad) and therefore able to handle his junglee family. He also saw the way she handled the puppy and saw her as the nurturer, someone who would show him a better life. But instead Angad created havoc in both their lives and she is blaming Krishna for her choices as well. When the tables are turned and she needs Krishna to trust her against the lies from Angad will she finally realize what it is to have the other shoe finally drop. Will that give her a wake up call about her behavior towards Krishna from the beginning of their marriage? There have lessons she has had to learn for a while about what it takes to be in a marriage. It's not about accepting the home and sasural without accepting the husband first. Without mutual respect the marriage will never work.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Merarai
Yes , absolutely agreed . It is not about accepting the home and sasuraal first and NOT the husband .
Both the brother sister duo did not try to work on their marraige . Adarsh was secretly sighing for Roli And Pratigya told Krishna he DISGUSTED her .
Then why the drama of staying married ?Today she walked out na.....she shud have done it that time only then . She seems to be firm minded ...........was she seriously expecting that they were going to live in the same room for years and years together , never consummate , never have children while she wud play the good bahu of the house ?
She asked him if he knew what the meaning of PATI was .Well , did she really know what the meaning of SHAADi was ? Marraige does not mean giving ur 100 % to ur sasuraal but 0% to husband .
She had all reasons to be angry with him as to what happened in her earlier life...I dont dispute that . But she also had ample opportunity to study his life , the ambience in which he was brought up and decide for herself if he was THAT bad . Even her father The professor realised this fact but it didnt strike her that Krishna cud only be what he has turned out to be coz he has grown up in a very harsh and bad atmosphere .
The fact that inspite of being constantly hammered in that sleazy atmosphere , Krishna did NOT become his father is amazing and she shud have started dwelling on that by now . His elder brother has become exactly like his Dad and the mother is a classic case of the victim turning into the abuser after enduring prolonged abuse . Bcoz she cannot kick SS back she starts viciously treating her bahus .Seeing this dysfunctional family , she shud have understood that what he became is not really Krishna's fault and he is still trying unconsciously to get out of this all ............if u notice , he is not exactly very open with his family . Her love wud have totally changed him .
But her anger clouded her reasoning . She never really gave him a chance . As a woman she remained intensely angered by him .
Even in Komal Adarsh marraige it was Komal who took initiative to make the marraige work . She was uncouth , coarse , but she wanted to make the marraige work . Same in this marraige .
I repeat ......Im not justifying what happened before the marraige or saying she had no cause to feel angry .What Im saying is once married , both the brother sister duo did not decide to give it a chance so i really dont understand what their expectation was or how long they were thinking marraiges cud last this way .......by not working on them AT ALL .
The father was constantly goading Krishna to accept his criteria of manliness and consummate with a woman , impregnate her willy nilly , kick her when angered or shut her up when she spoke her mind ...........but we see a struggle within Krishna when he tries to emulate his father and finds himself ultimately behaving differently ........something his father wud have DETESTED . Then he tries to HIde it from his Father that he cud NOT come up to HIS beastly Level .
Pratigya is Krishna's weak point . Sadly she did not realise it as a woman and did not capitalize on it .
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Posted: 15 years ago
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girls i read all your post...all the post were excellently written๐Ÿ‘...nothing is left for me to say๐Ÿ˜Š...
but one thing i want to ask you ...pratigya want to go out of SS House...fine ...when SS tried to take her out of his house why she did not walk happily with SS.why she refused to go with him...after all he was helping fulfill her wish is n't it?๐Ÿ˜•
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Merarai

Yes , absolutely agreed . It is not about accepting the home and sasuraal first and NOT the husband .
Both the brother sister duo did not try to work on their marraige . Adarsh was secretly sighing for Roli And Pratigya told Krishna he DISGUSTED her . So when Krishna changes bec' she wants him to, suddenly she will no longer be disgusted with him. That's not a husband she is looking for, more a puppet. What happens when she starts changing and she wants him to change yet again. She may not like the new Krishna after all the changes she wanted, then what? When has it ever worked unless the person changes of their own free will. Forcing them to only shows up as a problem in other ways.
Then why the drama of staying married ?Today she walked out na.....she shud have done it that time only then . She seems to be firm minded ...........was she seriously expecting that they were going to live in the same room for years and years together , never consummate , never have children while she wud play the good bahu of the house ? She lacks common sense and has never seen the big picture of her life.
She asked him if he knew what the meaning of PATI was .Well , did she really know what the meaning of SHAADi was ? Marraige does not mean giving ur 100 % to ur sasuraal but 0% to husband . Krishna had a valid point. The marriage ceremony, sindoor were all a fake too. Yet she was living the lie every day. She blames Krishna bec' she is incapable of speaking the truth at the appropriate time?

She had all reasons to be angry with him as to what happened in her earlier life...I dont dispute that . But she also had ample opportunity to study his life , the ambience in which he was brought up and decide for herself if he was THAT bad . Even her father The professor realised this fact but it didnt strike her that Krishna cud only be what he has turned out to be coz he has grown up in a very harsh and bad atmosphere. She is not the brightest bulb in the house. She is stubborn against her own best interests. Her mother told her to give him a chance and her response was it sounds good but I can't and won't forget the past. Brilliant! Her father tells her he is a victim of his surroundings but good at heart and she turns a blind eye to that as well. She behaves like she has all the answers and screws it up at every turn.
The fact that inspite of being constantly hammered in that sleazy atmosphere , Krishna did NOT become his father is amazing and she shud have started dwelling on that by now . His elder brother has become exactly like his Dad and the mother is a classic case of the victim turning into the abuser after enduring prolonged abuse . Bcoz she cannot kick SS back she starts viciously treating her bahus .Seeing this dysfunctional family , she shud have understood that what he became is not really Krishna's fault and he is still trying unconsciously to get out of this all ............if u notice , he is not exactly very open with his family . Her love wud have totally changed him . She doesn't want to see beyond the tip of her nose at this point. Her self-righteousness will hurt her in the long run. Like Adarsh who gave a good speech at their wedding about pati-patni mei barabari achcha hoga, was all talk.
But her anger clouded her reasoning . She never really gave him a chance . As a woman she remained intensely angered by him. Families are held together bec' of a woman's capacity to keep a cool head and use common sense. Anger only destroys families.
Even in Komal Adarsh marraige it was Komal who took initiative to make the marraige work . She was uncouth , coarse , but she wanted to make the marraige work . Same in this marraige .The difference is Komal wants to make it work and is willing to change. Prats on the other hand doesn't seem to want to make things right, she wants everything and everyone around her to change, forgetting that she needs to change her attitude as well.
I repeat ......Im not justifying what happened before the marraige or saying she had no cause to feel angry .What Im saying is once married , both the brother sister duo did not decide to give it a chance so i really dont understand what their expectation was or how long they were thinking marraiges cud last this way .......by not working on them AT ALL .๐Ÿ‘ Living in la la land!
The father was constantly goading Krishna to accept his criteria of manliness and consummate with a woman , impregnate her willy nilly , kick her when angered or shut her up when she spoke her mind ...........but we see a struggle within Krishna when he tries to emulate his father and finds himself ultimately behaving differently ........something his father wud have DETESTED . Then he tries to HIde it from his Father that he cud NOT come up to HIS beastly Level .Krishna has explained to her several times how he wants to avoid the way his parents mock his love for her. Either she is deaf or she is plain unwilling to understand his plight at all.
Pratigya is Krishna's weak point . Sadly she did not realise it as a woman and did not capitalize on it . Tell me about it!๐Ÿ˜ฒ



Another brilliant post! I couldn't have said it any better. Women are the backbone of the family. A family could fall apart easily without the strength of a woman. Women by nature are emotionally more stronger than men.


Edited by MERARAI - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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In the upcoming SBS/SBB clip we see Krishna at first ask to take Prats home nicely. It's only when they/she refuses he starts tantruming like a 3 year old.

If Prats is so adamant about Krishna changing and learning to treat her right, then why hasn't she done the same by example. He is from a messed up family, she has lived with them awhile now. She has seen how they mock and put him down every chance they get even in her presence. Where is her empathy towards him, he is her husband? Oh wait. she doesn't accept him as one.

She was ready with her advise to Adarsh about keeping Komal happy bec' she is a woman. So a man doesn't deserve the same courtesy? Her logic is so warped at times. Why doesn't she see his pain and confusion that Krishna is struggling with in all of this? She has not once acknowledged him for the little things he has done for her, not once. He is still emotionally like a little child. When he gets no appreciation for his little efforts why would he be inspired to make big changes in his life? Even if Krishna changes bec' he is forced to, will this change long lasting? Probably not, till the next big thing explodes in their lives. Change has to come from within a person, no one can impose it on another against their free will, and Pratigya doesn't see that.

Does she really believe that Krishna or any other son for that matter can actually monitor their parents behavior towards them and their spouses? Why doesn't she speak up when she has to? Komal is illiterate and yet she can teach Prats a thing or two about making an effort.


Both Krishna and Prats need to grow up a lot. The need to help each other get there together, not punish each other for past mistakes if they even want to think of a future together. Prats will get a taste of her own behavior when Angad's lies about her surface and she is going to need the same trust and understanding from Krishna. That will be an interesting track with a twist where the tables could turn on her and the onus will be on her to prove her innocence. What goes around, comes around even in TV dramas.

As a woman, my expectations of Prats are higher than from Krishna given that he comes from a messed up family and he is doing what he knows. What is her excuse?๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜•
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Merarai

Yes , absolutely agreed . It is not about accepting the home and sasuraal first and NOT the husband .
Both the brother sister duo did not try to work on their marraige . Adarsh was secretly sighing for Roli And Pratigya told Krishna he DISGUSTED her .
Then why the drama of staying married ?Today she walked out na.....she shud have done it that time only then . She seems to be firm minded ...........was she seriously expecting that they were going to live in the same room for years and years together , never consummate , never have children while she wud play the good bahu of the house ?
She asked him if he knew what the meaning of PATI was .Well , did she really know what the meaning of SHAADi was ? Marraige does not mean giving ur 100 % to ur sasuraal but 0% to husband .
She had all reasons to be angry with him as to what happened in her earlier life...I dont dispute that . But she also had ample opportunity to study his life , the ambience in which he was brought up and decide for herself if he was THAT bad . Even her father The professor realised this fact but it didnt strike her that Krishna cud only be what he has turned out to be coz he has grown up in a very harsh and bad atmosphere .
The fact that inspite of being constantly hammered in that sleazy atmosphere , Krishna did NOT become his father is amazing and she shud have started dwelling on that by now . His elder brother has become exactly like his Dad and the mother is a classic case of the victim turning into the abuser after enduring prolonged abuse . Bcoz she cannot kick SS back she starts viciously treating her bahus .Seeing this dysfunctional family , she shud have understood that what he became is not really Krishna's fault and he is still trying unconsciously to get out of this all ............if u notice , he is not exactly very open with his family . Her love wud have totally changed him .
But her anger clouded her reasoning . She never really gave him a chance . As a woman she remained intensely angered by him .
Even in Komal Adarsh marraige it was Komal who took initiative to make the marraige work . She was uncouth , coarse , but she wanted to make the marraige work . Same in this marraige .
I repeat ......Im not justifying what happened before the marraige or saying she had no cause to feel angry .What Im saying is once married , both the brother sister duo did not decide to give it a chance so i really dont understand what their expectation was or how long they were thinking marraiges cud last this way .......by not working on them AT ALL .
The father was constantly goading Krishna to accept his criteria of manliness and consummate with a woman , impregnate her willy nilly , kick her when angered or shut her up when she spoke her mind ...........but we see a struggle within Krishna when he tries to emulate his father and finds himself ultimately behaving differently ........something his father wud have DETESTED . Then he tries to HIde it from his Father that he cud NOT come up to HIS beastly Level .
Pratigya is Krishna's weak point . Sadly she did not realise it as a woman and did not capitalize on it .

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Well said
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: shumi.

girls i read all your post...all the post were excellently written๐Ÿ‘...nothing is left for me to say๐Ÿ˜Š...
but one thing i want to ask you ...pratigya want to go out of SS House...fine ...when SS tried to take her out of his house why she did not walk happily with SS.why she refused to go with him...after all he was helping fulfill her wish is n't it?๐Ÿ˜•



Shumi, bright and early,๐Ÿ˜ƒ a very good question๐Ÿ˜Š. Even when Prof. walked her out she was turning to look at Krishna. Why? Her marriage, her husband are meaningless to her so why even bother? She has gotten so used to Krishna stepping up to fight for her. Yet she lied through her teeth y'day about him not standing up for her. Was I the only one miffed about this? Ek dum jooti.
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Girls , Hats off to you all for fantastic topic and critics. Dil khoosh ho gaya subah main.
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Originally posted by: MERARAI

In the upcoming SBS/SBB clip we see Krishna at first ask to take Prats home nicely. It's only when they/she refuses he starts tantruming like a 3 year old.

If Prats is so adamant about Krishna changing and learning to treat her right, then why hasn't she done the same by example. He is from a messed up family, she has lived with them awhile now. She has seen how they mock and put him down every chance they get even in her presence. Where is her empathy towards him, he is her husband? Oh wait. she doesn't accept him as one.

She was ready with her advise to Adarsh about keeping Komal happy bec' she is a woman. So a man doesn't deserve the same courtesy? Her logic is so warped at times. Why doesn't she see his pain and confusion that Krishna is struggling with in all of this? She has not once acknowledged him for the little things he has done for her, not once. He is still emotionally like a little child. When he gets no appreciation for his little efforts why would he be inspired to make big changes in his life? Even if Krishna changes bec' he is forced to, will this change long lasting? Probably not, till the next big thing explodes in their lives. Change has to come from within a person, no one can impose it on another against their free will, and Pratigya doesn't see that.

Does she really believe that Krishna or any other son for that matter can actually monitor their parents behavior towards them and their spouses? Why doesn't she speak up when she has to? Komal is illiterate and yet she can teach Prats a thing or two about making an effort.


Both Krishna and Prats need to grow up a lot. The need to help each other get there together, not punish each other for past mistakes if they even want to think of a future together. Prats will get a taste of her own behavior when Angad's lies about her surface and she is going to need the same trust and understanding from Krishna. That will be an interesting track with a twist where the tables could turn on her and the onus will be on her to prove her innocence. What goes around, comes around even in TV dramas.

As a woman, my expectations of Prats are higher than from Krishna given that he comes from a messed up family and he is doing what he knows. What is her excuse?๐Ÿ˜ฒ๐Ÿ˜•

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Once again u and koolsadhu100 have said exactly what i wanted to say
Edited by krishna_chalbo - 15 years ago

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