Indian board cracks down on players! - Page 11

Originally posted by: ani11

Cut it out boys...don't start again..please.. 😭 😭

Ok Ani no more replies from my side. Khush.😊

aww both u guys vineet and soumya...thanku for understanding... 😊

Originally posted by: Maya_M

Just one line here. Agarkar is still in the team.😆

Agar thik bowling kar saka definitely...😆

Originally posted by: ani11

aww both u guys vineet and soumya...thanku for understanding... 😊

I second you on this......Thanks all for maintaining the peace and harmony of the Planet DM....😛.....and keep up with the zest and humor that each one of us are uniquely known for.....😃

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

Agar thik bowling kar saka definitely...😆

....to definitely nikaal dena chahiye...😆.and bring in another set of wayward bowlers who can help the opponents set a mighty target for our batsmen so they can learn to score big....Think about it...If the bowlers do well then how will the batsmen improve and how will we ever watch our batsmen scoring big?😳😳😳...Don't we all love watching Sachin/Sehwag more than AGARKARs and Pathans?😃

Originally posted by: sareg

yes, b'cos in the other statement you also claim

Other boards and captains too played regional poliitics, but you want to hold Mumbai more responsibile😉

Do we want to do a 2+2=4 here?

how sweet😛😆 reminds me of kindergarten- a put-down of your idols is regionally motivated, no matter what the logic. 😆

wonder if u'd also go around calling wisden and all the others in the country who were baying for tendulkar's hide as also regionally motivated? and i suppose we are color conscious because some of us didnt care for chappell?

oh wait. perhaps i'd be called regionally biased for having supported debojit very loudly and going against a guy (vinit) from my own region? that's also regional, no?😛😆

and maybe someone who is anti-north because i occasionally dont care for nehruvian politics?😆

yaar, a bit of the nuanced logical thinking would help. calling people names is something most of us learn as kids. getting past that is what brings in the refinement.😉😆 sort of strange anyway that you took this the way you did since you do claim elsewhere not to be PC-oriented.

and yes, i still maintain that mumbai cricket board was too heavily driven by regional politics. if u think otherwise, maybe u cld try reasoning instead of putting brand labels like regionalism on members.😆

Originally posted by: raksha.l

Haha, Maya we cant stop crying over it, can we???I was equally disappointed seeing Dravid being retained as the captain..However I am convinced with the reasons cited by the board for the decision...

I like the point you made regarding the endorsements...Is it not infringing on the fundamental rights of the players???.Where has the democracy gone???Are the players not supposed to choose for themselves??As long as they are performing, how doest it matter to us as to what they were doing outside the field??

I think we are all just too frustrated with the team's failure and are feeling that sadistic happiness regarding this clause about the endorsements...In reality it does seem like a very unfair rule..You have company on that fence Maya..I am getting the popcorn, you please get Coke..😆

mayaji n rakshaji count me in😳............ganguly was the best captain,rahul is good as a player but as a captain........no no..................he is softspoken,gentleman(this doesn't mean that ke ganguly is not a gentleman😳)............we need agressive captain,like ur dada😳........n yes,on endoresment the players shud have freedom to do whatever they like((aakhir cricket me career khatam hone ke baad bhi unko bread n butter ka intazaam karna padega na future ke liye,BCCI kahapupchta hai ex-players,ziada se ziada 1-2 benefit matches ka kuch amount de deta hai unko..........warna kayi ex-players hai jinki economic condition bohat kharab hai..........))

n domestic cricket i.e.ranji trophy,irani,deodhar trophy me khelna compulsory kar dena chahiye,star cricketers ko bhi............pitches bowlers ko help karnewali banani chahiye taaki achhe bowlers bhi aage aaye n humare so-called strong batsman ko achhi bowling khelne ki practice ho jaaye...............n on the basis of performance match fees etc benefit dene chahiye.............ghatiya performance ke baad match fees kaatne ke saath saath penalty bhi wasul karni chahiye in players se😉😆

Originally posted by: sareg

😆😆😆, I am aware, but I think people who are regionalisticly blindfold dont

BTW do you know the story about a monkey and its child, when they get caught in a flood, the monkey first holds the child up above its head, but when the water gets to its neck, it puts the child down and stands up on it to save its life😉

Come on, are you serious..Its simply🤢..You must be kidding

BTW, this thread already has 3 empire state buildings and one more in making...😆😆😆

@Maya- We both seem to be continuously disturbed by the presence of the mighty legend Sir Ajit Agarkar...We can cry all we want but the man is a winner all the way..Tell me how many players can you name who have 3 world cups to their records???Very few..Wonder why we are not able to see his class and might😕

sharing article.. please ignore if it was posted b4.

https://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/ 288900.html

Specialist coaches with a professional manager could be the answer

How about a team to coach a team?

Sambit Bal

April 4, 2007

Perhaps India was not ready for Chappell, or perhaps Chappell didn't have it him to coach India with all its complexities Getty Images

One of the most tumultuous chapters in Indian cricket has come to an end with Greg Chappell ruling himself out of contention for the Indian coaching job. Perhaps he merely pre-empted the inevitable; it was difficult to see how he could have carried on. The differences between him and many of those whom he was to manage had become far too wide and far beyond healthy.

Passions are running too high at the moment to attempt an objective assessment of his tenure. Perhaps India was not ready for Chappell, or perhaps Chappell didn't have it him to coach India with all its complexities.

His letter has simplified the matter for the BCCI to a degree. It has removed one of the many inconvenient questions confronting the board. It should not, however, serve as a convenient escape route. Chappell had his faults but Indian cricket, and the cricketers in particular, would be living in delusion if they convince themselves that he was the problem. To comprehend the magnitude of the problem read S Rajesh's fine analysis of India's batting in recent times. Sanjay Manjrekar has pithily pointed out that Chappell held up a mirror to Indian cricket.

Chappell's final report shouldn't be dismissed as the rants of a bitter coach, because it's likely to contain some home truths. Not confronting the truth and not owning up would only keep Indian cricket in the comfort of darkness.

So what now? The sentiment is building up towards a homegrown coach. Even the players, who were so opposed to the idea a couple of years ago, are open it to now. Mohinder Amarnath's name has cropped up again, as has Sandeep Patil's. Some board members are even proposing the name of Sunil Gavaskar, who has so far kept himself away from contention.

Do India really need a coach in the traditional sense? In fact, is there a single definition for a cricket coach?

But nothing would be more disastrous than an Indian being appointed for the sake of it. It is fashionable among former players to speak mockingly of laptop coaches but no country can afford a coach lacking in contemporary thinking. A return to status quo would be a step back to the dark ages.

Here's a thought, though: Do India really need a coach in the traditional sense? In fact, is there a single definition for a cricket coach?

Over the years, coaches have defined their own roles according to their own beliefs and abilities. Some focus on technicalities, some are theorists, some are man-managers and some believe in being facilitators. Bob Woolmer was one of the finest batting coaches, John Buchanan is a man of ideas and John Wright believed in creating the right environment for his players. No single coach can ever hope to fulfill all the requirements of a modern cricket team.

Given that a foreign coach is bound come up against the system in India and get both frustrated with and hampered by it, why not consider appointing a team of specialists? Many countries are moving towards specialised coaches integrated into a unit. Troy Cooley worked wonders with the English bowlers, Jonty Rhodes is busy cranking up the fielding of the South African team yet another notch and Mike Young has done so with the Australians.

India need help in all three areas of the game. The batsmen have consistently struggled to come to terms with pace, bounce and swing. They have a young and impressionable pace bowling attack which is now led by Zaheer Khan, himself returning from a break, and no one needs help more urgently than Irfan Pathan. John Wright has often spoken about how much the pace bowlers benefited from the presence of Bruce Reid in their camp during their successful tour of Australia. And India are among the world's worst fielding sides, regularly conceding 20 to 30 runs in one-day cricket.

Money is not a concern and if the board is sincere about it, they can find the best professionals from the global pool of talent. This team can then work with a manager of stature and proven integrity, an Indian who can help them negotiate the system. Someone who can be both link and a shield. Someone tough and uncompromising.Someone who can relate to Indian players, who is above petty politics and regionalism, and wholly committed to the idea of winning.

Step forward Ravi Shastri.

Sambit Bal is the editor of Cricinfo and Cricinfo Magazine

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