Was it Astha's real win or not

Originally posted by: Sg2013

Excellent epsiode today .Applause to all the actors and and the whole team for EBP and offxourse to SP for nayi soch. Sojal's mom did say that today.

The real question is " Kya in paramaparaoun ki deewar tutegi ya nahi? " Will this wall of these age old traditions which have no role in todays's time crumble or not is the key question and if so how?

Vinayak and Varad are same is made obvious by the writers today. They think equally and do not have so much courage as to completely go against them and walk out of this house or for that matter against the society. They are hoping Astha will do it. Vinayak can see the change coming but does not know the result yet. He says the foundation is already being laid. The war has to begin. Both Vinayak and Varad are there to support but there is a fear if NA or Anjali will manipulate and subdue Astha. Vinayak has seen that happen to Anjali when she got married and came to this place and how she changed. But this time we will see Astha wining although after a long time fro she has Shlok on her side who is helping her indirectly . So yes Varad is Vidhur, Vinyak is Sanjay, Astha is our Arjun and Shlok Srikrishna , they are all fitiing into the characters very well.

Whether he liked or not NA could not do much and so the puja was not completed by Astha. Astha tthrowing away the thali was a great synbol. She threw away the milk and the plate indicating she has already revolted against this tradition and this house.Shlok does not say anything because he ahs seen what happens when Varad tried to oppose these openly. I am sure Varad knows Shlok's games. Both brother are same behind the masks , but both are wearing the different masks to unmask NA and Anjlai and this society.

I think although there is a very long way to go for Astha at least this is her first win, where she has actually gone against Anjali and the NA hiding behind her. What a shame , these men who call themselves superior to women and want to be treated like GOD, hide behind women's back and perform their dirty work so that all the bad name comes to the women who are then made to pay for all these. A limit to hypocrisy by the men and until some men too fight this , I do not think we or the society or Astha for that matter in this show will be completely able to stand up against these traditions.

So comes the question "Astha bina Shlok " or "Shlok bina Astha ", neither of them will be able to do it completely on their own. Shlok could not change his house or either his mother or father when he left home. So now he wants to change this home with Astha by staying in this home. Charity begins at home is true. He needs to fight on the battlefield not from behind. They will be complete together and then fight this war. So we see this Srikrishna guiding Astha to get uo to fight this. Mahabharat on this Battle field of Kurushektra which is the Agnihotri mansion. Srikrishna never fought from either side so we see Shlok playing both sides, making NA feel that he is following him ( remember Srikrishna's army fought for Dhrutarashtra) any is giving his sermons to Astha here. One of the lessons today today was look into yourself . Look into your own cupboard to find the answer. The cupboard here is your soul, you mind , your brain.

I saw Shlok's face today showed real concern for Astha. May be Swati tried to do somewhat same as what Astha did and she walked away and could never come back. Most likely she was killed.

Did Shlok make Astha pass in this test today? Halfway may be , because when he heard NA speak he knows NA will do the same that was done to Swati. Is that the reason Shlok is trying to get her to her parent's home or is he trying to push her to a limit where she will become more alert and protect herself and fight more because he does not want her to think that she can be safe with his baba or Anjlai. I think shlok knows his baba, although both causes may be true.

Shlok does again tell Astha in his twisted way that she is still not learning the tricks . She searched the whole house for the papers but never looked in her own cupboard. So he is telling her , look into your oen house to see where the danger is. Is he telling her indirectly about NA whom Astha believes as good and supporting her as she has not been able to see the NA under the mask.

I felt today Shlok too is playing exactly the same game as his baba. Baccha knows the real baba and so is paying back to baba in the same way as baba does.

He used Astha to fight against Anjali and then make Anjlai look bad and made NA to allow Astha to do what she wants. He knows his baba will do everything for the sake of the name of his supposedly great but actaully hypocritic family.

NA the manipulator knew Shlok was listening so tried to play with his mind and to make Shlok feel guilty. Is Shlok then asking Astha to leave because it has hurt his baba's feelings. I do not think so. Shlok too is back to his game . He is telling Astha to leave this house as there is no place for her here since she is not following traditions of this house and doing what her parents taught her. Poor Astha she cannot see the unmasked Shlok yet.

Now Anjali is telling Astha that if she goes then she cannot return and NA sees it. NA will not let Astha leave the house since it will bring bad name to his family. So Astha will again stay here and not run away, but will she be able to see NA, the real culprit so soon. Not yet.

Abhay did play his part and took Jyoti away with her MIL following Abhya. Dhuryodhan pulling Draupadi and Dushyasan following Dhuryodhan. Both Dhrutarashtra and Gandhari ( NA and Anjali) are blind to what is happening or atleast pretend to be blind.

Let us see if Astha really leaves the house. Shlok will pusk her to go and NA will stop her , so indirectly Shlok will make Astha stay.

Would appreciate your views.

Originally posted by: Sg2013

Excellent epsiode today .Applause to all the actors and and the whole team for EBP and offxourse to SP for nayi soch. Sojal's mom did say that today.

The real question is " Kya in paramaparaoun ki deewar tutegi ya nahi? " Will this wall of these age old traditions which have no role in todays's time crumble or not is the key question and if so how?

Vinayak and Varad are same is made obvious by the writers today. They think equally and do not have so much courage as to completely go against them and walk out of this house or for that matter against the society. They are hoping Astha will do it. Vinayak can see the change coming but does not know the result yet. He says the foundation is already being laid. The war has to begin. Both Vinayak and Varad are there to support but there is a fear if NA or Anjali will manipulate and subdue Astha. Vinayak has seen that happen to Anjali when she got married and came to this place and how she changed. But this time we will see Astha wining although after a long time fro she has Shlok on her side who is helping her indirectly . So yes Varad is Vidhur, Vinyak is Sanjay, Astha is our Arjun and Shlok Srikrishna , they are all fitiing into the characters very well.

Whether he liked or not NA could not do much and so the puja was not completed by Astha. Astha tthrowing away the thali was a great synbol. She threw away the milk and the plate indicating she has already revolted against this tradition and this house.Shlok does not say anything because he ahs seen what happens when Varad tried to oppose these openly. I am sure Varad knows Shlok's games. Both brother are same behind the masks , but both are wearing the different masks to unmask NA and Anjlai and this society.

I think although there is a very long way to go for Astha at least this is her first win, where she has actually gone against Anjali and the NA hiding behind her. What a shame , these men who call themselves superior to women and want to be treated like GOD, hide behind women's back and perform their dirty work so that all the bad name comes to the women who are then made to pay for all these. A limit to hypocrisy by the men and until some men too fight this , I do not think we or the society or Astha for that matter in this show will be completely able to stand up against these traditions.

So comes the question "Astha bina Shlok " or "Shlok bina Astha ", neither of them will be able to do it completely on their own. Shlok could not change his house or either his mother or father when he left home. So now he wants to change this home with Astha by staying in this home. Charity begins at home is true. He needs to fight on the battlefield not from behind. They will be complete together and then fight this war. So we see this Srikrishna guiding Astha to get uo to fight this. Mahabharat on this Battle field of Kurushektra which is the Agnihotri mansion. Srikrishna never fought from either side so we see Shlok playing both sides, making NA feel that he is following him ( remember Srikrishna's army fought for Dhrutarashtra) any is giving his sermons to Astha here. One of the lessons today today was look into yourself . Look into your own cupboard to find the answer. The cupboard here is your soul, you mind , your brain.

I saw Shlok's face today showed real concern for Astha. May be Swati tried to do somewhat same as what Astha did and she walked away and could never come back. Most likely she was killed.

Did Shlok make Astha pass in this test today? Halfway may be , because when he heard NA speak he knows NA will do the same that was done to Swati. Is that the reason Shlok is trying to get her to her parent's home or is he trying to push her to a limit where she will become more alert and protect herself and fight more because he does not want her to think that she can be safe with his baba or Anjlai. I think shlok knows his baba, although both causes may be true.

Shlok does again tell Astha in his twisted way that she is still not learning the tricks . She searched the whole house for the papers but never looked in her own cupboard. So he is telling her , look into your oen house to see where the danger is. Is he telling her indirectly about NA whom Astha believes as good and supporting her as she has not been able to see the NA under the mask.

I felt today Shlok too is playing exactly the same game as his baba. Baccha knows the real baba and so is paying back to baba in the same way as baba does.

He used Astha to fight against Anjali and then make Anjlai look bad and made NA to allow Astha to do what she wants. He knows his baba will do everything for the sake of the name of his supposedly great but actaully hypocritic family.

NA the manipulator knew Shlok was listening so tried to play with his mind and to make Shlok feel guilty. Is Shlok then asking Astha to leave because it has hurt his baba's feelings. I do not think so. Shlok too is back to his game . He is telling Astha to leave this house as there is no place for her here since she is not following traditions of this house and doing what her parents taught her. Poor Astha she cannot see the unmasked Shlok yet.

Now Anjali is telling Astha that if she goes then she cannot return and NA sees it. NA will not let Astha leave the house since it will bring bad name to his family. So Astha will again stay here and not run away, but will she be able to see NA, the real culprit so soon. Not yet.

Abhay did play his part and took Jyoti away with her MIL following Abhya. Dhuryodhan pulling Draupadi and Dushyasan following Dhuryodhan. Both Dhrutarashtra and Gandhari ( NA and Anjali) are blind to what is happening or atleast pretend to be blind.

Let us see if Astha really leaves the house. Shlok will pusk her to go and NA will stop her , so indirectly Shlok will make Astha stay.

Would appreciate your views.

Originally posted by: dakshaavi

Lovely post suchi. You have pen down all my thoughts today .Its really pleasure reading your post .

Even I thought sweating would have gone through same situation and shlok reacted in the same way . So sweating left him saying you are selfish for not standing up with her . History repeats but this time NA will not take chances with shlok , doesn't want to loose son like last time .Shlok will ask astha to leave but NA will stop her , thinking about the consequences . So now shook knows his baba we'll.

NA was angry when abhay poke his nose .

Will write more later.