JA Nov 13th - Kya se Kya ho gaya, bewafa CVs tere JA Love Story ka..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Seriously, JJ just took few steps forward and then they are pulled back by Ekta's regular soap TRP generator indecent plots. We all know the mist will clear out and sun will shine again. But, during all this do the CVs realize how much the characters are losing their grace and dignity. I am all okay with JJ not trusting each other and going few steps backwards. But, what left a bad taste was the kind of blame each one had to withstand and show a happy face in the public. It was very dramatic when JJ had to take blessings and oaths, when all they felt was betrayal. I just couldn't take it...


Lets see the damage this track has done on the characters:

1. Jodha puts molestation/rape charges on Shenshah

2. Jalal blames Jodha for ExtraMarital affair

3. Ruqu/Jalal lose lifelong friendship, Ruqu blames Jalal for lying to her

4. Angel like Hamida blames Jodha for ExtraMarital affair

5. Entire sultanat (MA rumour) ridicules the JaJo relationsip


It might be best to skip the episodes till this issue is resolved. As I am not able to take the way they are building up the drama to show more of atyachaar on Jodha, as if it wasn't enough during MC.


The other biggest injustice done by CVs is the characterization of Jodha. She is constantly shown as the weeping Meena Kumari tragedy queen, complaining to Kanha and Moti about her misfortune. I understand that she had to go through some hardships in Agra, but generally every girl does when she goes to her husbands house. She has an angel like MIL and sister like Salima begum, then her husband who supports her through so many accusations. Yet, we find her mope, crib like a helpless gal. Is she really a rajputana, a princess CVs? Jodha shows her temper and braveness when it is not needed in front of Jalal. But in crisis like this all she can do is cry, shed bucket full of tears.


Jalal very sternly and firmly states that he is not responsible for the pregnancy. He goes on to accuse her of getting involved with another man as he kept his word. Jalal is sick and tired of hearing the rajvanshi aan/baan/shaan, its a constant attack on his mughal origin. Jodha rightfully admitted that she wouldnt even allow her shadow to be touched by any man. Both are right in their stance and in the betrayal they are feeling. The biggest clue to Jodha is that Jalal is NOT happy about her giving the waris, she knows he loves kids and has seen his excitement when Ruqu was expecting. He cant hate her so much that he does not even desire a waris from her, but our Jodha is not there yet. Indirect clue to Jalal, if Jodha is taking revenge then why is she not admitting it and showing happiness in being successful. She is mad with rage and even showed her panja. This indirect clue will be taken by Jalal and he will start the investigation to find the other culprit responsible for the pregnancy. Atleast he is doing that much rather than announcing the punishment. Shouldn't Jodha have been shown to digest what Jalal told her? She had admitted to her family that Jalal is 'zubaan ka pucca' and she got a confirmation of it again from Jalal that he did not break that promise. Then why no doubt is shown in Jodha's head by CVs? Instead she plays the same broken record again in front of Moti. I wish for a change we saw a clever strong Jodha who pulled herself out of this misery rather than get absorbed in it. I just find it harder and harder to accept that Jalal falls for the current Jodha who is shown so weak.


I felt the mysterious woman might have been the Khwaja lady herself. May be she was bribed by SD to add something that gives Jodha pregnancy like symptoms for enough time so that Jalal is convinced and kicks her out. It does look like Rahim will drink the milk and have similar symptoms, poor boy. Hopefully Salima will chat with Jalal about this and wola Jalal will solve the puzzle on non-existing pregnancy. But, will SD get caught? Ofcourse not, CVs need many such villains to keep giving us crappy tracks.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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I had more or less voiced these very same sentiments in another thread, Meghna. Looks its going to be a fairly long drawn out track & on the way, eliciting high TRPs with the teary eyed helpless heroine bit too thrown in 😕 .

Am expecting Jalal to finally start thinking after he heard what Jodha said in her defence today. He understands her well enough as he s told many a time, & its time he smells a rat here. Hope to God Hamida too doesnt withdraw her support to Jodha as shown in the precap, nahi toh I ll be taking a temporary off from the show .

Regarding Jodha, well we are agreed on her mostly ungracious behavior to Jalal & yeah, it grates to hear her meaningless rants, but today I totally sympathised with her predicament , its truly a horrible thing for an innocent to be accused of infidelity that too by ur own husband . So her defence made total sense to me. But she isnt going to think herself out of the mess bcos she s too totally down emotionally & I wont blame her for it either.

Want to blame only the CVs & the PH & just feel like throwing something heavy at the makers' heads for thinking up this way to solve JA s trust issue 😡 .

PS: Seeing Bakshi Bano doctoring Jodha s milk was so ewww too 🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very nice, Meghana, logical and suitably exasperated!

As for why Jalal's strong assertion did not make Jodha think things over again, I wrote on my own thread that while Jalal will eventually get a second opinion, the same thing should have occurred to Jodha as well, after that blow up with Jalal. But all she does is to imitate a watering pot.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: meghanajain

The other biggest injustice done by CVs is the characterization of Jodha. She is constantly shown as the weeping Meena Kumari tragedy queen, complaining to Kanha and Moti about her misfortune. I understand that she had to go through some hardships in Agra, but generally every girl does when she goes to her husbands house. She has an angel like MIL and sister like Salima begum, then her husband who supports her through so many accusations. Yet, we find her mope, crib like a helpless gal. Is she really a rajputana, a princess CVs? Jodha shows her temper and braveness when it is not needed in front of Jalal. But in crisis like this all she can do is cry, shed bucket full of tears.

Jalal very sternly and firmly states that he is not responsible for the pregnancy. He goes on to accuse her of getting involved with another man as he kept his word. Jalal is sick and tired of hearing the rajvanshi aan/baan/shaan, its a constant attack on his mughal origin. Jodha rightfully admitted that she wouldnt even allow her shadow to be touched by any man. Both are right in their means and I know Jalal will start the investigation to find the other culprit responsible for the pregnancy. Atleast he is doing that much rather than announcing the punishment.

Shouldn't Jodha have been shown to digest what Jalal told her? She had admitted to her family that Jalal is zubaan ka pucca' and she got a confirmation of it again from Jalal that he did not break that promise. Then why no doubt is shown in Jodha's head by CVs? Instead she plays the same broken record again in front of Moti. I just find it harder and harder to accept that Jalal falls for the current Jodha who is shown so weak.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ngayou

I had more or less voiced these very same sentiments in another thread, Meghna. Looks its going to be a fairly long drawn out track & on the way, eliciting high TRPs with the teary eyed helpless heroine bit too thrown in 😕 .

Am expecting Jalal to finally start thinking after he heard what Jodha said in her defence today. He understands her well enough as he s told many a time, & its time he smells a rat here. Hope to God Hamida too doesnt withdraw her support to Jodha as shown in the precap, nahi toh I ll be taking a temporary off from the show .

Regarding Jodha, well we are agreed on her mostly ungracious behavior to Jalal & yeah, it grates to hear her meaningless rants, but today I totally sympathised with her predicament , its truly a horrible thing for an innocent to be accused of infidelity that too by ur own husband . So her defence made total sense to me. But she isnt going to think herself out of the mess bcos she s too totally down emotionally & I wont blame her for it either.

Want to blame only the CVs & the PH & just feel like throwing something heavy at the makers' heads for thinking up this way to solve JA s trust issue 😡 .

PS: Seeing Bakshi Bano doctoring Jodha s milk was so ewww too 🤢

I don't think it is BB, it looked like the khwaja shera to me. I am going to be even more disgusted if it turns out to be BB, how many more butchering and becharofying the characters. Arggghh..
I somehow didnt think Hamida Jodha confrontation was a dream, will be skipping tomorrow and Fri episode for sure. Best to check the reviews before watching Ekta's historical dirty picture.

Put yourself in Jodha's shoe just like I did. I would have been agonized but the thing that would keep me restless is why would my husband fail ONLY one promise. He had many chances then why now? Then even if he did it for saving my life then why did he come and tell me he used the black cloth. Can a man who cares about Sukanya's life with inlaws (threatens them if they harm suku) stoop to this level? Specially when he reaffirms that he did not touch her? I would have gotten over my agony and started discussing with Moti how could this happen if my husband denies it and blames me instead. I hope I am never in her situation. But I have seen hardship in life and as a regular girl come out of it quickly. Unlike Jodha the rajputana who keeps shedding tears like mynavati.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Very nice, Meghana, logical and suitably exasperated!

As for why Jalal's strong assertion did not make Jodha think things over again, I wrote on my own thread that while Jalal will eventually get a second opinion, the same thing should have occurred to Jodha as well, after that blow up with Jalal. But all she does is to imitate a watering pot.

Shyamala

Thanks Shyamala. I am tired of women being shown weak and like this atyachari bhogi swaroops. Whenever they show Jodha taking action its stupid moves like taking MA to Jalal as culprit or calling BB as witness for SD. Seriously can they ever show the female lead clever? She can be agonized but at the same time not loose the fighting spirit. I saw that only during the tiger attack...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: meghanajain


I don't think it is BB, it looked like the khwaja shera to me. I am going to be even more disgusted if it turns out to be BB, how many more butchering and becharofying the characters. Arggghh..
I somehow didnt think Hamida Jodha confrontation was a dream, will be skipping tomorrow and Fri episode for sure. Best to check the reviews before watching Ekta's historical dirty picture.

Put yourself in Jodha's shoe just like I did. I would have been agonized but the thing that would keep me restless is why would my husband fail ONLY one promise. He had many chances then why now? Then even if he did it for saving my life then why did he come and tell me he used the black cloth. Can a man who cares about Sukanya's life with inlaws (threatens them if they harm suku) stoop to this level? Specially when he reaffirms that he did not touch her? I would have gotten over my agony and started discussing with Moti how could this happen if my husband denies it and blames me instead. I hope I am never in her situation. But I have seen hardship in life and as a regular girl come out of it quickly. Unlike Jodha the rajputana who keeps shedding tears like mynavati.



Meghna, when I said I sympathise with Jodha s plight, I meant only that. Here as she s portrayed the stereotypical abla naari who r invariably dumb too, I expect nil from her . U or I or the average intelligent person would have stopped to think in such a circumstance & done some rechecks, but since when has Jodha ever displayed such intelligent characteristics, tell me 😉 . That's why I said I dont expect her to do anything in this mess either except to rant & rave & blame Jalal endlessly 😆 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nice take,
So far I could take but by the look at the precap
am not sure how Jodha is going to handle
1. The rumour around the father of her child
2. Hameeda who till date has been THE Jodha Begum fan also misunderstanding Jodha.
I was hoping the issue will be reolved before the above two... But I guess we are indeed getting a full blown drama filled preganancy MU track :-(
I hope Jodha does not take any drastic step. While yesterday I felt she stretched her self-pity, today I wanted to hug and console her following the confrontation with Jalaal...
Jodha has to deal with a lot more emotionally than Jalaal. No one can take the accusations thrown at her... No wonder it will be Jalaal that ends up wearing the thinking cap.Jodha would be too emotionally drained. It will take her sometime to get over even after the rumors are proved baseless.
I would love to see Salima helping Jalaal get to the bottom of this.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i am ok with the epi just want this track end soon
i am hoping hameeda bano stand with jodha & jalal find the truth soon & hope that women mixing medicine in milk is not bakshi bano
jodha is completly broke down 😭 but i want jalal to end this game

Shouldn't Jodha have been shown to digest what Jalal told her? She had admitted to her family that Jalal is zubaan ka pucca' and she got a confirmation of it again from Jalal that he did not break that promise.
when jalal told jodha he never touched her & GOD knows this there was a deep thaught expression on jodha face for a while 😆 but can't blame the girl how she beleive she is getting all the signs & symptoms of pregnancy vomiting etc she is under the reaction of the medicine
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Meghna, when I said I sympathise with Jodha s plight, I meant only that. Here as she s portrayed the stereotypical abla naari who r invariably dumb too, I expect nil from her . U or I or the average intelligent person would have stopped to think in such a circumstance & done some rechecks, but since when has Jodha ever displayed such intelligent characteristics, tell me 😉 . That's why I said I dont expect her to do anything in this mess either except to rant & rave & blame Jalal endlessly 😆 😆

Hey Gayatri,
May be I am tired of seeing Jodha's emotions which are always 'mere saath yeh kya ho raha hai' or 'jalal kitne kutil hai' that even when she is genuinely traumatized I cannot sympathise with her. I hope they atleast show one smart move from her rather than moping around.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Celebrations And More Celebrations

celebrations are always known to be a happy occasion...but here both the souls are deep in dilemma...nursing a wound heart...neither they can express and vent their anger nor they could hide it...jallu-jodha eyes both reveal the pain in their face through their smiles...it was painful to watch them so hurt...so heartbroken and jallu giving a fake smile but his heart is shattered into pieces...lots of questions in their brains but there is no answer at all...not even a clue...

here the dilemma was more on the answers they want to know for their questions...they are still confused...and can't find a solution to handle the issue...all they can do sit and swallow the venom...

Akdha Prayers For Their Non-Existent Baby...Love And Relationship

did you notice jodha took a long time to say the word "prem"...a perfect hint that she is not in love with him at the moment...

the other thing i loved was jodha once again watches jallu's way in praying...and she took the same step...

once again we notice here...both are praying but not too happy...again brains are filled with questions and no answer...the anger...the pain...was visible in their face and eyes...but being matured...they conduct the prayers...jallu fake smile once again tried to hide his pain...but it fails miserable...more than anger...his eyes had so much pain...

did we ever saw so much pain in jallu's eyes...for it was the first time i am seeing such horrible pain jallu's eyes...the pain is something more than anger and betrayal...

MA Notices Akdha Dilemma

once again vamps will know each and every detail of the couple...she is one smart and shrewd lady...nothing can be hidden from her...especially when it comes to jallu...she notice his every expression...his every move...thats what i call a true player...she is definitely going to investigate

Akdha Face Off

while watching this scenes...i feel so sad and bad for jodha...as a women its really hurting to hear that you are having an affair from your husband...and jodha just heard that from her...though its a conspiracy but in the end jallu did question jodha's loyalty...character and virginity...it hurt jodha's self-respect and self-esteem more than jodha herself...the moment he told jodha whose baby she is carrying...and she almost died...disgusting is the word written in all her expressions and eyes...thats the reason she stopped him

for a women...her self-respect and self-esteem is most important...she stop jallu right away and put forward her points in his lies to ruku...to her...jallu have no answer for that...but he swears that he did not even touch her...hence back to square one...it shows that they were able to tolerate each other than it turn into a sweet friendship...but the trust which is needed in any relationship was not created in here...

it gave a inside hint that their relationship is still in weak process becos the most important factor in a relationship "Trust" is not formed in their relationship...and this is why people like MA...Adham...Shariffudin could use their weakness as advantage...once the trust is created...nothing can break Akdha apart...

this whole scene hinted us that the trust factor...its not created yet by Akdha...therefore both are right in their perspective...but then to accuse someone for a adultery...jallu needs to gain proofs before shouting at her...as for jodha...she is still sync with her character...ghrina mode...

MA heard the whole convo...she hates jodha so this piece of news is a advantage for her...

Jodha-Moti Convo

one could really understand jodha's pain...she is already shattered that her husband breaks his promise and made her pregnant...now more worst has happened that she wants to die which is her husband suspecting her of having an affair...one could understand her plight...and she really curse the day when she got married to this man...i feel so bad for her...every day she needs to pass a test in Agra...and this time she needs to give Agni Pariksha of character and virginity...no women should go through the trouble which jodha is going through now...

she is disgusted by jallu's words...his words totally hurt her...almost died

Akdha's Secret MA Advantage

she call khwaja shera and enquire abt the symptoms...never really bothered much in this scenes...only got confused how the hell that poison brought pregnancy symptoms in jodha...

Clues and Hints

it looks like salima is going to come in for rescue...hints is already given...and the mysterious women is definitely Bakshi Bano...i just love the friendship b/w salima-jodha...she cares for jodha so much just like her little sister...i wish to see such bond b/w ruku-jodha too...but i think i am expecting too much...

jallu has hurt jodha's self-respect and self-esteem with his heartless words...and also she is going to be humiliated too...its more than enough blow for a women...everyone is against her...its not easy for jallu now to win jodha's friendship back..he will have to really work hard to win her back

it was a intense episode...i hope by next week they end it w/o dragging it

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