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Hello Hi People...

Welcome to Reflections from The Director's Cut...

Hope you all had a great festival time...The countdown to 100 episodes has begun... Here's the link to today's episode...


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5d7-6rJ9rQ[/YOUTUBE]

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Episode 091

I don't care ...

I don't care ... Mujeh koi farak nahi padta ... He brandishes his lack of concern caustically ... Sometimes using it as a saber to cut her down with his words ... and sometimes as a shield ... His defense ... I don't care ... Do whatever in hell it is you want ... Break the goddamn model ... Break my goddamn heart ... I couldn't care less !

Khushi, please listen carefully to him ... He is hurting ... He is a child in anger ... He loves to talk in riddles ... Don't think he is making mountains out of mole hills ... He is taking his gussa out for one thing, but really means it for something completely different ...

The little girls had broken his model ... Scribbled a very manly handle bar muchi on his photograph and generally run amuck all over the house ... One more thing Lavavya and ASR share in common ... Their dislike for little brats ...

He is petulant child ... refusing to budge ... almost as childish as the little girls themselves ... Throwing a tantrum over his broken model ... Does not want to forgive ... Kuon maaf karon ??? He juts his chin in child like rebellion ... He couldn't possibly so mad about a miserable model ...

He yells into the phone ...Agar crisis nahin handle kar saktay ho ... This is the same man who his Di had said sometime earlier, Tumhay toh kisi baat say Farak nahin padta ... Toh kuon issay itana parashan kar rahy ho ... And right now he has lost his temper over a model ??? Very unlikely ...

The crisis he is yelling about is within him ... and the person who is not being able to handle it, is him ... He hates this more than he hates anything ... His lack of control in his life ... He is pissed, alright !!! At her ... At her childish naivety ...

He has been sitting nursing a broken heart and she has been playing ankh micholi with Om Parkash, for gods sake !!! She says the things she says with her eyes and yet she pushes him in the complete opposite direction ... Not just pushes him ... But had compelled him into taking the worst possible decision ...

Much much later, he will play ankh micholi with her, painting a muchi on her face ... Reminding her then ... It is me you should have been playing with ... Me you should have been running after ...

But right now, he is really fuming at where he has ended up, all because of her ... All because he couldn't stand to see her cry ... And what he had done ... Hadn't stopped her tears either ... He wants an admission ... Han, Arnavji, mujehsay both badi galti ho gayi ... He really is looking for some tender loving ... Some cajoling ... Some manoing ... Some more of the guiltily shuffling feet, animated eyes, honest, rambling lips ... Similar to the one by the pool ... Sabr karo ASR, that too is around the corner ...

She feels his angst and is sincerely sorry ... She starts to beg for forgiveness ... Humara chotti si galti ... It is as if she lit a fuse ... Chotti is galati ??? He practically bites her head off ... Oh shut up !!! Tumhari chotti is galti nay mera kitna nuksan kar diya hai ...

Nuksan ... A word commonly used in context with monetary downturn ... Our consummate business man knows not how else to describe the loss he is feeling within him ... Nuksan ... Crisis ... Backup ...

Backup ??? ASR, Really, how can one have a backup plan for heartbreak ??? Really the poor guy has no clue ... He is in uncharted territory here ... and is reacting the only way he knows how ... Rant at the little adorable, apologetic girls as though they were mini Amans ... Snap at the cause of his turmoil ...

Nuksan ??? This girl has cost him his recently dared dreams ... He has been robbed of his new found hope ... His future has been snatched away right from within his grasp ... And she dares to say Chotti si galti ... He has been maneuvered into a corner ... No wriggle room ... The girl he does not want, is back in his life ... The girl he can not live without, is constantly sending him mixed messages ...

She is a clueless child ... He is crazy to get mixed up with such a child ... She does not know what her own heart wants and he is the fool who has let himself be led by this confused child women ... Can she please make up her mind if she feels anything ... something ??? Or all else she says to him is a natak !!! She may not be using actual words, but she does say it ...

Her chotti si galti had landed him in this predicament ... He had gone back to Lavanya to stop her tears and put a smile on her face ... But it had had the exact opposit effect ... She had cried at the sight of him and Lavanya together ... He had done it for her !!! And she was still crying ... What should he make of that ??? And then the next day her eyes had clearly spoken her heart desire ... Why is it that she could not tell him all this sooner ... Now he is in this unholy mess ...

He ignores her cry for help ... only to discover minutes later that it was genuine. She sits at his Di's feet ... Fixing her boot, with as much concern and care as he would have ... He sits with her, at his Di's feet, his eyes seeking hers ... Not a Thank you ... But a much deeper observance of a shared cause. Another bond that ties him to her ...

He apologizes ... Repeating, word for word ... in front of her ... in front of his family ... But his Di is not easily fooled ... She knows whose words he is using ... She knows Lavanya ka saat saat her Chottay too is falling under the spell of this charming girl.

Lavanya stands at a distance, observing, feeling like an outsider ... As she has done this whole day ... unable to fit in ... unable to penetrate this circle ...

His apology, his concern, comes wrapped in a cold, hard steel dibba, and warm, soft words ... Tumnay subha say kuch khaya nahin hai ... Kuch kha lo ...


Edited by Ipoona - 11 years ago
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Episode 91

Kanya Puja .PART 2

Trust is a thin line in between two people and it takes time to build it but breaks in no time.It is the beginning place ,the foundation upon which more can be built.Where trust is ,love can flourish. The phase of building trust in between Arnav and Khushi is in its initial state.He shadows her character behind his hindering and lurking fears of his past and she is clouding his character in his attitude and way of thinking and above all his ways of living behind her set belief system.

Khushi and Naniji has a trust build up in between them which makes Naniji and Khushi go along with each other as she makes her calm down and then goes to Eternal Heaven[pool side] where she can find him to calm him down.Khushi,"Jab chote galati karain tou badoon ko maffi dai daini chahiyeh .Kyuon keh chote ghalati jan bhooj kar nahi karte

[when younger seek forgiveness from older then they should forgive them ...because younger don't do it purposely]

Arnav is still mad at Khushi as there is no trust yet in between them ,he still thinks she is the one who is behind all of this.Kids try to make Jijaji with mustache understand but he is just an annoyed kid just like em.


Anjali comes to know the whole fiasco behind his animosity and ferocity for kids.Arnav did not realize this either that in this all he is hurting her Di again by making her aware of this that "this is his house"...but before he be cognizant of the situation the damage has been done.He tries to talk through but Anjali as she is his Di turns her face and refuse to listen and he walks away.


Trust in between Khushi and Anjali is way stronger than ever at this point.Just like Arnav she can feel Anjali's distress and convulsion very deeply the same way she did the other day when Arnav threw her out of this house by yelling at his Di.

Connecting Dots: Anjali falls down today and she let Khushi helps her ,the other day she falls down when he throws Khushi out and does not want Chote to help her.hmmm...Trust is the most difficult thing to build...


Khushi calls everyone for help including Arnav who thinks she is lying along with kids ...There is no trust what so ever but her distress voice did urge his heart to come for her plea but his brain rejects it ...hmmm ..interesting.


Naniji's trust for Khushi does not need any proof.Amazingly Mamiji shows gratitude in her hello hi bye bye style.The seed of discomfort and being 2nd has been planted in La today as she is going to accept that she cannot compare with Khushi .Anjali does not want Chote to get disturbed as Naniji knows her stubborn kids gives Om Parakash an eye to bring Arnav down.

Symbolism and connection: Arnav is wearing a Turquoise blue color and this color represents coldness and depressed attitude just like Shyam's bracelet.

Arnav comes down all concerned and apprehensive but gets surprised and obliged seeing Khushi taking care of his Di.At the top Naniji stresses the issue of Khushi being there for Anjali and he did not even bother at her voice. He mortifies at his absurdity with Khushi and he repeats the same words.Arnav,,"Jub chote galati karain tou badoon ko maffi dai daini chahiyeh .Kyuon keh chote ghalati jan bhooj kar nahi karte...

[when younger seek forgiveness from older then they should forgive them ...because younger don't do it purposely]which make everyone astonished at him.

Khushi gets confounded and breathless with her cute face and Anjali looks at her first and then Chote,'yeh bol tumare tou nahi lag rahe"[These are not your words.]He gives a very loving childish look to Khushi and then to Di.Anjali holds Khushi's hand,"Apne La ko sikhate sikhate kissi aur ko tou...[you are not just teaching La but someone else too...]

PONDERING POINT: In the office he said to her"tumhain training daine ki aadat ho gyei hai"[ you have a habit of giving training] Now I have to add you have a habit of getting trained by her Akhroo...

Seed of trust has been planted as he knows Khushi will be well wisher of his Di though it shakes after terrace night but restores back after kidnapping even before that I must say during Heer Ranjha he finds out she went with Slither for getting Di's meds and took his heat without uttering a word.


Amusing Pondering for me: Oh Akhroo smiled knowing that Khushi thinks he looks nice with mustache ..hmmm...Yummilicious!! Its been a while to see him smiling like this.


La's uneasiness was very visible after seeing her man turning into someone she hardly can relate with.Her restlessness was very noticeable during Kanya Pooja and even after that.

Naniji ,"This year kids were very naughty" which reveals another mystery over Arnav that this "Khufia Pooja" is going on every year which brings a laughter among house ladies but Khushi knows at this point her laughing over him makes him angry so she just passes a smile as he was looking at her like always but this time did not get as mad as last time after "Orange Juice" A Slight Trust is right there...

Reverberation of events align in front of Arnav [ how she took care of Di ]when Khushi leaves and His Di breaks his stance for pouring info that Khushi has Varath and did not eat anything.I think who knows better than him how bad she gets when she is hungry.He takes the food from Di and goes after her.


He grabs her right near the door where he calls her twice[# 2 sexual Tension] She thinks she did something wrong and goes along with her pagalpan.He stops her and tells her with the most sensitive and loving way"Woh Di keh rahi theen keh Subha se tum ne khuch khaya nahin...woh ...Khuch Kha lo"[Di was saying you did not eat since morning ..so...eat something.

Dhak Dhak!!! Is back which she acquainted with her empty stomach and acidity.She takes the food container from his hand and touches his fingers this time which increases his acidity..Bingo!

Last time she got the Ghee without touching his fingers and was careful and this time while taking it who cares attitudeThough scary for her but stillHere is the TrustShe runs and leaves him flustered with his strange attitude.:"Ajeeb hai yeh"



Today definitely Moon rises from the north as Khushi in distress and hungry and food is in front of her and she is not eating itBuaji is right she is Sanka DeviHer Dhak Dhak and his caring words."Woh Di keh rahi theen keh Subha se tum ne khuch khaya nahinwoh Khuch Kha lo"[Di was saying you did not eat since morning ..soeat something.

were making it difficult for her to eat ." JiJi uss ne diya hai"[Jiji he gave it to me}Even Payal couldn't convince her there is nothing wrong with the food but she has no clue it's not the poison but It's the "Amrit" given by her Arnavji.

His loving and caring face comes in front of her and her heartbeat goes on with no speed breaker today, so she comes up with the solution for reducing her Dadkan she will not see him or talk to him

".hmmm..Lets see KKG

New day ,new determined Khushi right in front of LG who she does not want to see or talk.He asks her to give it to La ,she keeps walking by ignoring him.He calls her three time{# 3 for victory,ego and masculine one].Third time his voice goes up'Khushi" which presses break oh her feet.He comes closer and her Dhak Dhak goes up"Don't you listen calling you" She gathers energy ,"Don't you see I don't want to talk to you or listen to you and want to stay away from youBas.

She left him all flustered and confused."What"


Khushi is baffled over La's worries as she has no Dhak Dhak or acidity.But Khushi Dhak Dhak stops or in other words "sansain ruk gyein " when La mentioned about her marriage with ASR.

Lamha-e-Fikariya:Thinkable moment: Khushi planted this seed of marriage in La's brain but today she is the one who does not like the sound of La being married with ASR.hmmm..Big change in Khushi...Keep it up Khushi!

Nanital trip is up ,Khushi's plan is up,Nanital Valley Hotel here we come..but as La and khushi both are agreed not a single plan worksso this one sound floppy one too.

Symbolism and Connection:Khushi and La both have reflection in the mirror as both have no clue of the real picture and equation of ASR with each other ,they both are seing the apparent picture or situation ,no one knows the depth of it.

Edited by ArshiHamesha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Poona, absolutely fabulous. I love the reason why he is throwing the tantrum. I never connected it with the breaking of his heart. Love it!
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Welcome to yet another Reflections, nope not a post day today .. just wanted to bring forth a very interesting discussion we were having on some past DC .. please feel free to jump into the convo with ur pov .. all are welcome ..
My comments which were directed by a post from Horizon ... the point we are discussing here .. is after KHUSHI announces her engagement to Arnav & the subsequent farak padta hai challenge that started .. WOULD Arnav have married KHUSHI if she had said that day .. FARAK PADTA HAI??

My post ...
Interesting Poona ...

Now just a thot i am sharing ... just to broaden the discussion ..

Could the need to hear "farak padta hai" be simply to get a reassurance HE WAS NOT ALONE IN THESE FEELINGS ... the tumult he was undergoing found a resonance in her ... He had SHOUTED 'Farak Padta hai" first ... he had LAID HIMSELF BARE ... would he not want to SEE HER BARE As well .. remember their entire COURTSHIP was a CHALLENGE .. a one upmanship ...


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Hi Ruby, completely agree that their courtship was a duel ... And also completely agree that he wanted her to admit to what he knows she is feeling ... He reads it ... And she does nothing to acknowledge it, rather does the exact opposite of what she should be doing ...

BOLD 1 : But for me, this scene here is no courtship ... Here he is fighting ... For their survival ... He had just found out the girl he cannot breath without is engaged ... He wants her to tell him the truth ... It is amongst the few times he bares himself, says as clearly as a man of few words can. For me the emotions in this scene are similar to ... Khushi ... Tum asay Nahi ... When she is leaving for Lucknow ... Similar to when she tumbles out if his closet ... His three times Khushi ... Khushi ... Khushi ... Similar to kya kar rahi ho tum ...

If I were to continue with the orbital metaphor of their journey ... This is the closest he gets to the center ... This is as naked as he is going to get, at this stage ... There was not an insincere bone in his body when he leads her by his words ... He shows her a path to get to him ... Mesi sagai aaj ho ya ek saal baad ... Tumhay kuon Farak padta hai ...

BOLD 2: To me the dueling... The challenge come after this ... Farak challenges are more about pining her to the wall ... Blocking every exit of her ... Making her face the truth at every step ...

My question really is once she would have admitted it ... What then ??? I honestly feel he is not doing it just to assuage his ego ... Or even just to hear it ... He wants these things of course ... But she is engaged ... BOLD 3: What then ??? This is what he wants ... a signal from her to push ahead ... What that pushing ahead means ... May mean different things to different people ... I think he has seen her as his Dhulan ... He would have been ready ... Saat phera ya aath ... He couldn't care two hoots ... As long as he gets her ... Small price to pay for what he is getting in exchange ...

Even when he says on Payash wedding day ... Tum say baat karni hai ... That was not a profession of love ... He proposed to her with that bindi ... Marry me ... I know all his demos were slayed by then ... Different time ... But just a thought ...

Any way got to run to the asli duniya ...

Really enjoy hashing this ... 😛


TODAYS REPLY ...

lets first of all agree to disagree .. simply cause the way u see the scenes is with a romantics view .. i see the scene from a script writers view .. or what the script was saying ... 😳😳 .. hey nothing wrong with both visions ... to me story telling is personal .. each person relates to a story differently .. this discussion is purely to bring out the various POVs .. NO RIGHT VIEW NO WRONG ...

Ok the first pointer in BOLD .. what survival are v talking about ... a couple of days at best 3 days back ... he made a pass at her .. she responded .. & he went running calling himself ENGAGED ... what changed in 3 DAYS that he is fighting FOR SURVIVAL .. of a relation which he was RUNNING FROM ... SHE DID NOT RUN .. she went back to him after the pool side almost kiss & badgered for a response .. his response was to TUCK HIS TAIL & RUN .. & get himself HITCHED ... there is NO FIGHT FOR SURVIVAL ... hence my question to HORIZON .. WOULD HE HAVE MARRIED HER IF She had SAID FARAK PADTA HAI ...

Now lemme give u some examples ... lets go to the Khushi poolside kiss ... & nani & anji witnessing it .. the moment they bring up marriage .. YES HE IS JEALOUS .. BUT there is a BIG HESITATION IN HIM where marriage was concerned ... he fumbles with the word marriage ... probably the first OBVIOUS reaction that to be with KHUSHI .. marriage was the only way ...

Now lets go to the heer ranjha episode .. (actually IMO heer ranjha fight is the best way to understand this TALE ...) Khushi asks .. WHAT DO U WANT FROM ME .. DO U EVEN KNOW ...

Thats bang on .. Arnav had feelings for her .. feelings he was not comfortable embracing .. hence he ran .. the sight of KHUSHI in SHyam's arms was his way of JUSTIFYING TO HIMSELF that marriage was the oNLY option ... HE GETS THE OUT he is looking for ... to TIE her to HIM ...

The bindi ... the actual romantic courtship .. after his saansein ruk jaayengi moment ..he realises this is a girl he is iN LOVE WITH ... thats the only realisation he has .. he embraces the fact that she is IMPORTANT TO HIM .. & yes probably marriage as a thot flirted in his mind ..BUT SHYAM the reluctant CUPID .. gave him the means to Embrace his LOVE

BOLD 2: the challenge .. dint it all start with a challenge ... go to the Dargah episode .. she challenges him he releases the footage .. go to the office episode .. what is the contract but a game of cat & mouse challenge .. NO the way this script was envisioned was the entire courtship was a challenge ... why would KHUSHI fall in love with a man who was ONLY EVER rude to her .. why would Arnav fall in love with a woman who he supposedly considered a gold digger .. from day 1 the masks they wore in their courtship HID the feelings they carried in their hearts .. the only way to ENGAGE was to CHALLENGE ..

BOLD 3: ... now to the question at hand .. had she said farak padta hai would he have married her in a jiffy .. Am going to answer this one with a question of my own ... Ok lets go to payash engagement .. on that day both of them know the other is single ready to MINGLE .. why then NO MARRIAGE ... why did it take a near death experience for Arnav to realise saansein ruk jaayengi .. u had a complete shaadi experience .. dance practise .. new years .. mehendi .. haldi ... what not .. NO SHAADI MENTION ... even when nani & anji brought it up .. theres a hesitation ... why do u guys think this is so ???


ENJOY READING .. ENJOY ENGAGING ...
CU AT THE IPKs ...
Edited by redwine1 - 11 years ago
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BOLD 3: ... now to the question at hand .. had she said farak padta hai would he have married her in a jiffy .. Am going to answer this one with a question of my own ... Ok lets go to payash engagement .. on that day both of them know the other is single ready to MINGLE .. why then NO MARRIAGE ... why did it take a near death experience for Arnav to realise saansein ruk jaayengi .. u had a complete shaadi experience .. dance practise .. new years .. mehendi .. haldi ... what not .. NO SHAADI MENTION ... even when nani & anji brought it up .. theres a hesitation ... why do u guys think this is so ???


Let me try Ruby...
When they both realized they were single ready to mingle... Both if them heaved a sigh in their hearts... They are the tom and jerry... Like Nani said ladenge phir manayenge...



They are happy with status quo of one upman ship fighting, teasing, flirting... I am better than u...
That was the only time we saw the flirt in Arnav...

In mehndi...after the pchhh. Kisss...wasn't he smirking...they both were enjoying the thrill ...marriage was not something they were ready about..

When he thinks he has lost her... He realises his saansen rum jaayegi and he wants her bound to him.,
When he gifts her the chudiyan and accepts it then Khushi starts having those saiyan thoughts... Before that he was just her tormentor..

Then she wants to wear the sari as he wants her ... After this point Arnav is not scared to show his feelings in front of di and Nani.,
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just peeped in and found interesting discussions@ruby- to the question you asked...- No he wouldnt have married her.. coz marriage was never his priority..he was confused about his feelings...what he was attracted..he felt connected... n then when she started to see those changes in him...n she acknowledges his attraction n unknown pull..he goes back to hiding his feelings..and breaking her heart... coz he is mad at himself for making him so emotionally attached to someone else... n getting affected in a way...he feels that she is a threat to him...and she must go away...thus he breaks her heart n decides to get married to lavanya...just to run away from his feelings... then when he sees that she is moving on ...and getting engaged...he is confused...that when he is fighting his feelings so much...is it so easy for her to move on... did she feel nothing for him...n then this battle started for her faraq padta hain... n indeed he ended this upon seeing how worse it is for her to deal with it...he accepted their fate..he broke his engagement with la..without even knowing that khushi's engagement is broken..he did this coz this was in a way his realisation that he has started developing feelings for khushi...n it was not fair for lavanya to be used as means of getting rid of those feelings...okay after all jalebi talks i did...I wud say ..Arnav was still confused with his feelings at that point of time... it was just the fact that he felt she was also getting affected by him as he is..thus why it is so easy for her to move on...when he is dying fighting with those feelings...
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Originally posted by: riti4u

just peeped in and found interesting discussions@ruby- to the question you asked...- No he wouldnt have married her.. coz marriage was never his priority..he was confused about his feelings...what he was attracted..he felt connected... n then when she started to see those changes in him...n she acknowledges his attraction n unknown pull..he goes back to hiding his feelings..and breaking her heart... coz he is mad at himself for making him so emotionally attached to someone else... n getting affected in a way...he feels that she is a threat to him...and she must go away...thus he breaks her heart n decides to get married to lavanya...just to run away from his feelings... then when he sees that she is moving on ...and getting engaged...he is confused...that when he is fighting his feelings so much...is it so easy for her to move on... did she feel nothing for him...n then this battle started for her faraq padta hain... n indeed he ended this upon seeing how worse it is for her to deal with it...he accepted their fate..he broke his engagement with la..without even knowing that khushi's engagement is broken..he did this coz this was in a way his realisation that he has started developing feelings for khushi...n it was not fair for lavanya to be used as means of getting rid of those feelings...okay after all jalebi talks i did...I wud say ..Arnav was still confused with his feelings at that point of time... it was just the fact that he felt she was also getting affected by him as he is..thus why it is so easy for her to move on...when he is dying fighting with those feelings...


Ritti ... after a long time i have read a post on IPK which made complete sense to me .. this is the most eloquently put post ever ...

& ur so bang on with ur analysis .. that honestly i wish to do a JIG ... this is one the BEST & MOST ACCURATE character sketches ... & description of the love affair of Arnav & Khushi ..

Thank u .. really ... hope i don't sound condescending .. but honestly floored ...
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Originally posted by: redwine1


Ritti ... after a long time i have read a post on IPK which made complete sense to me .. this is the most eloquently put post ever ...

& ur so bang on with ur analysis .. that honestly i wish to do a JIG ... this is one the BEST & MOST ACCURATE character sketches ... & description of the love affair of Arnav & Khushi ..

Thank u .. really ... hope i don't sound condescending .. but honestly floored ...

Aww how sweet... thanks 😳..I really appreciate all you people here analysing and discussing it once again... Its just that we dont have re-runs here so I am not in touch much with it..n thus my inputs r less...but today just felt like old days of analysis and discussions...so cudnt stop myself...
As you said .. there story n character sketches were very aptly designed..atleast in the starting 8-9 months in the show...
Looking forward to more interaction...
Take Care..<3
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What a amazing analysis of first Farak Padtha Hai of Arnav .
Thank you all - Ruby , Msin and Riti for getting deep into it .
It is surprising that Arnav was so rude to Khushi and ridiculed her at every
occasion possible still she fell in love with him and not with Akash or NK
Hey - Ruby - I have posted a question for you on epi 90 page 1 please give your
POVwhenever you have time.Thx

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